We need to be screaming about the energy usage of AI engines from our whole heart. Testing it out, making weird art “just to see”, heck even using “AI search engine results” are a MASSIVE energy drain. - ThreadSky

drerinmac.bsky.social • 163 days ago

We need to be screaming about the energy usage of AI engines from our whole heart. Testing it out, making weird art “just to see”, heck even using “AI search engine results” are a MASSIVE energy drain.

Reposted from Erin Fogg

I'm sorry, you're telling me the people who stole all the art in the world to make computer software that can't do basic arithmetic would tell a lie?

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sandnesharry.bsky.social•162 days ago

"We need to be screaming about the energy usage of AI engines from our whole heart. Testing it out, making weird art “just to see”, heck even using “AI search engine results” are a MASSIVE energy drain."
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That it is massively draining energy is no surprise.
It is due to the way it works.

isolinearchip.bsky.social•163 days ago

Every. Single. Time. google decides to give me an AI answer to something I search for I submit feedback telling them to stop. I didn't ask for it, I'm not going to read it, and I really hate that the energy hog of a query was run on my behalf

rystefn.bsky.social•162 days ago

I stopped using Google search entirely. It's pretty much worthless at this point.

righteoushazard.bsky.social•163 days ago

The public assumes coin mining and AI energy costs are an efficiency problem that will tend to zero.

This isn't true (costs will remain devastating) but the thermodynamics/information theory of why is opaque. More work needs to be done both in science teaching and comms to overcome this.

homebrewandhacking.bsky.social•162 days ago

I don't think that's accurate. The public don't think about this sort of thing at all.

Shills for these technologies present as though they believe this but as you say, absolutely not the case.

righteoushazard.bsky.social•162 days ago

People need to know that unlimited AI growth is unsustainable.

Right now my go-to simplification is that information processing requires energy just like a heat pump does, except it pumps entropy and heat instead of just heat.

I wish I had a better explanation, this one sucks.

homebrewandhacking.bsky.social•162 days ago

You're right, that does suck! Remember you're trying to communicate using feelings so you need something to evoke the correct emotions.

It requires a plagiarism machine a lot of extra time and effort to make something worse than what a college student could do with a hangover.

righteoushazard.bsky.social•162 days ago

Yeah, the basic moral shittyness, inhumanity, and ugliness of it is easy to explain to people.

But I also want people to see the tailpipe and the exhaust.

rystefn.bsky.social•162 days ago

People won't see it because they don't want to see it.

homebrewandhacking.bsky.social•162 days ago

Tricky one. The fact is that these things are just not worth the cost. The companies are hiding the information because they don't want people to see how bad it is so that makes explicit calculation much harder.

jridderhoff.bsky.social•163 days ago

This is right up there with "building water-hungry data centers in the middle of desert states struggling with water availability" drives me absolutely nuts. The irresponsibility toward stewardship of our resources this society flaunts boggles the mind some days.

illimij.bsky.social•163 days ago

"AI Chatbot, how can we begin to reverse climate change?"

"Kill me."

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