“Move as close as possible to EU in Brexit reset, business bosses urge Starmer” Documents published alongside the Budget last month by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) warned that Brexit was on course to cut UK trade by a staggering 15% inews.co.uk/news/return-... - ThreadSky

peterstefanovic.bsky.social • 102 days ago

“Move as close as possible to EU in Brexit reset, business bosses urge Starmer”

Documents published alongside the Budget last month by the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) warned that Brexit was on course to cut UK trade by a staggering 15%

https://inews.co.uk/news/return-uk-possible-eu-brexit-reset-starmer-told-3385015

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jonnyglide.bsky.social•102 days ago

He won't though, not sure why, seems too afraid for some reason.
Labours going to fix nothing at this rate.
Taking the crumbs from pensioners tables, won't fix the economy but???

davidbartley.bsky.social•102 days ago

It's ok though because they're sending an extra £350m / week to the NHS.... They're deffo doing that, right?

josgallacher.bsky.social•102 days ago

Factcheck, please.

sjosey.bsky.social•102 days ago

Britain just needs to show up to the next European Summit and pretend as if they never actually left the EU, just like George did on Seinfeld when he quit his job.

oicu81236.bsky.social•102 days ago

BlueSky is a digital lobotomy, a cage for thoughts no bigger than a gerbil's brain. 300 characters? That’s barely enough to scream into the void, let alone paint the chaos of this world. It's a platform built for morons, a sad parade of shallow minds clinking their empty glasses together.

tgettermannw.bsky.social•102 days ago

The only sensible thing to do for the UK in view of the overseas non-option!

howidiotami.bsky.social•102 days ago

with Trump and the end of the "special relationship".. this will become a necessity anyway..

h109.bsky.social•102 days ago

Stammer is possibly more awful than the Tory Muppets that went before him, as he knows what's needed, but is too weak to do it. Its a bit like being a human rights lawyer, while prociding over a genocide.

poppy53.bsky.social•102 days ago

Sadly I think the EU has a say in this. Other countries might not be happy for the UK to benefit without being a full member after the mess they made for the rest of the EU.

pabar.bsky.social•102 days ago

Aye, that is the problem, isn't it. You can't have everything your way, grownups do compromise. Many in the UK didn't get it yet.

gandalfpc.bsky.social•102 days ago

"Many in the UK didn't get it yet." Indeed, most of the vocal "rejoiners" who block you if you point out the problems.

pabar.bsky.social•102 days ago

I was more generalising actually. Your example is valid, but there are hard brexiteers also who now complain of the impact on businesses. Again, one way or another, you can't have everything your way, you need to let something go!

irishdreamer.bsky.social•102 days ago

Yes. Over at X some of the really furious rejoiners would go absolutely mental if you explained that the PM cannot just decide to "join" the EU.

That it's the EU' choice, and they may not want the UK back just yet.

If ever.

laserbeem.bsky.social•102 days ago

The problems of course being the moronic leavers already shat where you eat.

stonia2.bsky.social•101 days ago

This attitude won't get you anywhere. You have to take people along with you. Make the case for improvement instead of appearing somewhat exclusive and sneering.

tedsmith.bsky.social•102 days ago

… and this bit says it all.
The UK CANNOT risk dealing with Trump, a criminal, and therefore making trade infinitely more difficult with our geographical neighbours - the EU.
It’s a no-fuckin’-brainer as far as I am concerned.
@Keir_Starmer needs to make the right decision. We are watching him.

conchboy.bsky.social•102 days ago

I feel there is no time to lose. As a matter of urgency, we need to move closer to the EU especially with the gathering momentum involving the U.S. sending long range missiles to Ukraine that can strike well into Russia. We need to be stronger together.

localdudefromma.bsky.social•102 days ago

Brexit = 2nd worst own goal in modern history.

1st is worst? Does it even need to be asked???

For those “low info” voters & the other multitudes of morons out there, the answer obviously is…Trump 2.0

krelis8219.bsky.social•102 days ago

We don't want you. Way better off without the drama.

higgings.bsky.social•102 days ago

Still clearly remember how especially the older generation in UK, in interviews on e.g. Danish TV, said that they didn't care at all if the country went bankrupt, as long as they got that freedom Boris and Nigel promised them.
We watch in awe.....😳
Hope UK rejoin some day.

lizzieab.bsky.social•102 days ago

Well the "we fought two world wars & survived the Blitz" "get our sovereignty back" brigade need to show some of that fortitude now and absorb the economic impact of Trump rather than capitulate to him. Nazis came to power on policies & horrible slogans many of which Trump & his team have utilised.

higgings.bsky.social•102 days ago

Aye, agree. 👍

mjv68.bsky.social•102 days ago

And then freedom of youth movement. Which we had no right to take away from our children.

mohsy.bsky.social•102 days ago

The EU is growing as fast as an asthmatic tortoise, we need to look to the rest of the world instead.

pfloppe.bsky.social•102 days ago

Starmer has (unnecessarily) backed himself into a corner on SM/CU/Rejoin, it's hard to see how he can reverse ferret on it and so Brexit will undoutably eat a sixth UK Prime Minister... the seventh will surely be wiser and more pragmatic.

sidthekid1965.bsky.social•102 days ago

But instead, Starmer jets off to restore relations with a man who is persecuting the minority Uyghur population.

lizrae.bsky.social•102 days ago

Or you could just vote SNP

gandalfpc.bsky.social•102 days ago

As long as Farage and a Eurosceptic Tory party exists we've no chance of joining but Starmer is building bridges etc. to make things better.

mikedlondon.bsky.social•102 days ago

Could the changed situation of Trump now about to damage UK / US trade - and possibly UK / Rest of World trade if the old orange felon sparks a tariff war - give Labour the 'excuse' to unbox themselves from the corner they manoeuvred themselves into and start (tentative) steps to rejoin the EU?

tsunami65.bsky.social•102 days ago

Possibly but I get the feeling that Starmer is very unlikely to turn. He's surrounded himself with advisors who are very much brexiters.

mikedlondon.bsky.social•102 days ago

I suspect he would worry more about the optics than the principle, so if it's pragmatically the best way forward AND there's a growing groundswell of support...

mattflm.bsky.social•102 days ago

Brexit cutting UK trade by 15%? Imagine our surprise.

harishdavda.bsky.social•102 days ago

Makes sense. You can’t clap with one hand.

bevhj.bsky.social•102 days ago

Let's try to show the government that many UK people are totally behind it. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700005

tontkowalski.bsky.social•102 days ago

Seems to make objective sense if our existing regs are predicated on doing trade with EU countries. Chucking all that out to comply with US regs looks like a foot-shooting exercise.

addicted2strava.bsky.social•102 days ago

£40 billion a year. Just saying.

ryansoper.bsky.social•102 days ago

Unfortunately, their policies so far cite supporting businesses and such, but so far have been anything but.

It's still early days and there's damage repair to be done though!

drwittek.bsky.social•102 days ago

Let me guess who not: Bamford (JCB), Martin (Wetherspoon) and Dyson?

stornahal.bsky.social•102 days ago

They’ll be happy to rejoin - that way they get to benefit both ways

stripeydave.bsky.social•102 days ago

It's almost like the people who said it was a good idea were... what's the word... oh yeah: lying?

mahagiri.bsky.social•102 days ago

Although it was Putin that financed Brexit we should sue Fartage and Johnson for the damage they have caused to this country

dtwd.bsky.social•102 days ago

Sue?

What's the threshold for treason?

mahagiri.bsky.social•102 days ago

High if you’ve got the msm on your side

evil-imp.bsky.social•102 days ago

We need to prioritise this as a nation. You can’t just keep ignoring that bloody enormous elephant in the corner.

peterf96.bsky.social•102 days ago

I think this is the right way to go.
Closer co operation with EU. Closer the better imo.

elgarscello.bsky.social•101 days ago

Brexit was the biggest error ever made by the electorate here in the UK. Bigotry, racism and xenophobia were the winners and it was all based on lies spread by the right wing media and self serving millionaires

jules19-62.bsky.social•102 days ago

About time

goodmojojo.bsky.social•102 days ago

Who knew that would happen, eh? Oh, all the economics experts, but what do they know🙈🙈🙈 FFS

peanco2025.bsky.social•102 days ago

Am I right in thinking that a majority of farmers voted for Brexit? As they say, you can only reap what you sow.

ianneli.bsky.social•102 days ago

Now that would be exhilarating! Please, Gods...

ollyconnelly.bsky.social•102 days ago

Calling Brino "Brexit" is like saying 4-1=4.

17,4 million Brits, by the official tally, did vote for Brexit.
8.6 million Brits, by contrast, voted Labour.

spuddle59.bsky.social•102 days ago

And 20 odd voted Kemi in. The referendum was a binary vote. In or out. General elections have many parties vying for votes. Many people voted tactically to get rid of the tories at the GE, which spread the Labour vote thin. Worked a treat, don't you think?

ollyconnelly.bsky.social•102 days ago

Sorry if the stats are inconvenient.

"And 20 odd voted Kemi in." Yes, more bullshit. Here we agree.

If anything, deleting the Tory scum, Labour should have cleared up. Actually though, Starmer lost nearly half his personal vote share.

They are all mostly despised. They are all frauds.

spuddle59.bsky.social•100 days ago

There's only one stat that counts. Stats are neither convenient nor inconvenient to me. They can be manipulated.

spuddle59.bsky.social•102 days ago

We are bombarded by the right wing media on a daily basis and a lot of people seem to like being told what to think. After 14 years of tory shithousery, their corruption is as plain as day. Labour have been in power 4 months. Perhaps some patience is required.

ollyconnelly.bsky.social•102 days ago

Post-Blair British politics, as largely elsewhere, are centrist or more accurately are globalist.

As for judging Labour, they were in Opp for 14 years, their record was plain already, which is why they garnered so few votes.

drunkenbakers.bsky.social•102 days ago

He daren't touch it despite it being great for Europe and would help sort our growth challenges in no small way.

pozhaslefttwitter.bsky.social•102 days ago

'As close as possible' = Rejoin, please.

gandalfpc.bsky.social•102 days ago

We have to get rid of Farage and a Eurosceptic Tory party first.

listeningmainly.bsky.social•102 days ago

Not necessary I hope. One big job offer in USA could do it?

gandalfpc.bsky.social•102 days ago

If only. I suspect Trump knows he's just a grifting w⚓ and now he's been used he's worthless.
#farageriots

xabulba.bsky.social•102 days ago

Don't count on any help from the US for at least 4 years.

renzelen.bsky.social•102 days ago

Farage would jump at that I’m sure, but I’m not sure it will be forthcoming, as he’s needed on the European front as an agent of disruption. He’s paid to be a political provocateur by those who want to undermine the Labour government and the EU.

listeningmainly.bsky.social•102 days ago

Astute observation.

renzelen.bsky.social•102 days ago

Farage has managed to make himself a media darling here in the U.K. Our MSM give him endless airtime and column inches. He plays them like a violin. (It helps that most of our media are right-wing).

joustingjim.bsky.social•99 days ago

Why didn't the Remain campaign win or the EU even need a campaign if it was so great?

bill-spinney.bsky.social•102 days ago

Positive Thinker-No Time for Negativity looking for followers!

malcolmlh.bsky.social•102 days ago

Rejoin. The majority of the UK wants it. It's the only logical way forward.

chriswoof.bsky.social•102 days ago

All those who voted Brexit should have their taxes increased / benefits cut to make up this shortfall in national income.

stonia2.bsky.social•101 days ago

People who voted for leave didn't see no benefit from remaining in EU.

People now saying rejoin were the greatest beneficiaries of EU. It's a class thing. Rest were left behind.

You'd have to appeal to those former leavers in terms of what's in it for them & I do not see any of that happening.

roadwarrior29.bsky.social•102 days ago

"Never here Keir", shaping up to be even worse than...Truss.

blusov.bsky.social•102 days ago

And the farmers were pretty vocal "leavers"

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