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peterstefanovic.bsky.social • 60 days ago

I think we are going to have our work cut out for us in the new year

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/labours-growing-election-threat-from-farages-reform-uk-3444358

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eagleneedle.bsky.social•60 days ago

Depressing, Labour are laying out the red carpet.

toolbox24.bsky.social•60 days ago

I think Trump will be influential. If his tariffs and slash & burn approach to government works... Reform will be king makers next GE. If the US struggles and falters, Farage will be insignificant.

I hope.

I hope that Reform are never in a position of power here, the UK would be over.

matthewhutton.bsky.social•60 days ago

More likely Trump doesn't successfully do any of that but the US economy still does OK.

Very unlikely pretty much all economists are wrong on tariffs.

toolbox24.bsky.social•60 days ago

I just hope that the initial bumpy start from Labour will even out and we start seeing the benefit of their decisions soon and consistently.

winter02.bsky.social•60 days ago

It’s not a bumpy start as it’s dealing with 14 years of Tory and Lib Dem devastation of the UK. Can’t turn that round in a few months.

toolbox24.bsky.social•60 days ago

You know what I mean, it was never going to be easy to fix the country, but general folk will need to see a real change by the next election to trust Labour again. More cash in their pocket, better run services and a secure country. With perceptions of failure dealt with, like the channel crossings.

winter02.bsky.social•60 days ago

For sure but all the calling for Starmer to go when the legislation for change is just going through Parliament, is delusional.

metaphorqu.bsky.social•60 days ago

Indeed!

joebrmd.bsky.social•60 days ago

The UK is Soo stupid they'll go from a right wing party that claimed to be left wing in labour to another right wing party with that little worm, and in another few years they'll create another arsehole that "is a man of the people" and they'll fall for it all over again

wokekaren.bsky.social•59 days ago

Investing and building good public services would be a start. 'The Right' includes Starmer's Labour Party
#NotHappeningUnderLabour
https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/politics/the-rights-financial-mismanagement-a-legacy-of-remarkable-public-failures/

onefinekitty.bsky.social•60 days ago

Elon Musk & Farage are in talks regarding the financing of his campaign. Then Musk will own 2 countries.

trainman2.bsky.social•60 days ago

Maybe the world simply likes self centred, arrogant dimwits from president to chancer leaches. What a world.

mat70x.bsky.social•60 days ago

If Britain elects Farage it doesn't deserve saving........ If our "journalists" keep platforming Reform without the context of inquiring questions they deserve to be flogged........

ahbeck.bsky.social•60 days ago

Starmer needs to get PR on the agenda. Four years of Farage being fêted without challenges as the Messiah will be dangerous for all of us. Get him in the commons where he can be formally eviscerated in public..

frostek.bsky.social•60 days ago

PR only makes sense with an informed electorate and no endless flood of disinformation, and we don't have that situation.

ahbeck.bsky.social•59 days ago

If we had an informed electorate then FPTP wouldn't be so bad. Referendums would work too. Our paradigm is that FPTP lets the sensible majority rule over the fools
But it can easily flip and then the fools will rule.

ahbeck.bsky.social•59 days ago

Disagree. Not about the lack of informed electorate, but about that being a prerequisite for PR. The problem with FPTP as now is that a gullible minority can take over completely. At least with PR you'd have _some_ representatives of sanity in parliament.

felixsylvestris.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour are playing you. Good luck...

oldbiker.bsky.social•60 days ago

The media have hounded Labour and Starmer since election day.
Admittedly, a disappointing lack of radical policies (more of the Tory same) isn’t helping but they won’t be happy ‘til they are discredited for yet another decade in the wilderness.
Not too late to change but I won’t hold my breath.

garysbrain.bsky.social•60 days ago

What would really help is not having a 4 or 5 year election cycle and go back to the days of just letting the govt get on with the job at hand and not have to keep hearing about them all. I miss the times when politics was boring.

placebowie.bsky.social•60 days ago

I'm always up for a fight....politically.

jfk-jrs-brainworm.bsky.social•60 days ago

This is all about making something a reality by repeating it enough that it gains gravitas

msbluewednesday.bsky.social•60 days ago

inews is owned by DMGT
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50598506

newsfrowned.bsky.social•60 days ago

Not just Conservatives 5.0. This one dreams a dream of economic union with the US and the oligarchy of MAGA.

scottbrerton.bsky.social•60 days ago

Reform definitely has a lot of supporters who are willing to spam the hell out of Facebook with their rants. But will that support transpose to boots on the ground at election time, knocking doors? Doubtful. And Reform have v little data to work with compared to established parties like Labour.

candyrn.bsky.social•60 days ago

Starmer & his fellow LFI MPs were elected on a litany of lies & duplicities. Politics is rotten to the core

judgejudge.bsky.social•60 days ago

Reform UK getting anywhere near winning an Election will be the best thing ever for Scottish Independence

dim-llygoden.bsky.social•60 days ago

I think the problem will be that none of the political parties will be offering anything. Obviously Farage will just flood everything with lies, and won't deliver on anytime, and will blame it on Europe / Foreigners /Trans etc

alanmadams.bsky.social•59 days ago

Starmer is killing the Labour Party, as I suspect he was meant to. The only way to gain popularity is to use popular polices, like the ones in the 2017 election. I don't trust the many right wingers in the cabinet to do this so all my hopes lay with JC.

anthonyf272.bsky.social•60 days ago

I asked ChatGPT about this and it gives a very concise reply. I wish Keir Starmer asked the question and actually listened for once.

angrypusscat.bsky.social•60 days ago

@teamlabouruk.bsky.social are fucking stupid, they should've sorted this on day one. It's not like they didn't have 14 years watching the problem with GROW. It's not like they didn't know about it.

@yvettecooper-mp.bsky.social @darrenpjones.bsky.social

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/708874

angrypusscat.bsky.social•60 days ago

"the problem with #russianPuppets GROW" Is the correct, cut n paste on here is wank @bsky.app

mantascox.bsky.social•60 days ago

If people want to listen to a grifter and snake oil salesman then no amount of truthfulness and integrity will change their minds.

gazk.bsky.social•60 days ago

Fürraghe would never actively want to be PM - he's too lazy, has no actual solutions to any problems faced by the country and most importantly it would get in the way of his grifting and second income. However I do worry he could be the "King Maker" with a minority Tory government in 29.

msbluewednesday.bsky.social•60 days ago

You could say the same about Donnie.
Fartage likes a bit of travel though, he’s always in the States atm 🙄

bluedunmedia.bsky.social•60 days ago

Farage is the UK's Trump.

voiceofthepeople.bsky.social•59 days ago

Why is it always a new villian to add

channingwalton.bsky.social•60 days ago

The only people I hear talking about this threat is journalists.

fownhopeboy.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour need to be honest with themselves and the public. We need electoral reform and a return to SM/CU.

sherwoodpm.bsky.social•60 days ago

Never mind that . Are we watching “Die hard” or “Skyfall” next . Do you want more bubble and squeak Peter or shall we get the cheese out ? Personally I’m ready for some heavy drinking .

bggyoneandonly.bsky.social•60 days ago

The 'i' is just another part self-serving propagandist, I take everything they and the rest of the media say with a huge pinch of salt.

Biggest problem that I see, rational people not sharing news but spreading opinion-pieces.

markxryan.bsky.social•60 days ago

Right-wing propaganda.
inews owners the same as daily mail.

wobwong.bsky.social•60 days ago

What utter bullshit

pennyflynn.bsky.social•60 days ago

Why? I think the fascists are a real threat with our corrupt, undemocratic system.

mpjod.bsky.social•59 days ago

I think there are alot of stupid people in the UK.

happylecinq.bsky.social•60 days ago

Agreed, but the biggest threat to geopolitical stability will be from the Russian asset in the White House undoubtedly!!

marvintandroid.bsky.social•60 days ago

You can't win by retreating and you can't win if you don't oppose.

You can only win if you perform at your best and achieve what the people want.

lucyfyson.bsky.social•60 days ago

They could start by refusing to allow a foreign billionaire to bankroll the far right here and directly mess with our democracy- but they appear too scared to do so.

zedman59.bsky.social•60 days ago

Of course Labour could try being less useless! Done nothing about the water companies pumping raw sewage into our water, caved in to the gambling industry and why not a windfall tax on energy companies? Still locking up climate activists whilst those responsible for Grenfell are unpunished.

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

Less useless?
👇

zedman59.bsky.social•59 days ago

Well those aren't achievements they are mostly aspirations. They are implementing cuts of 2.5%, austerity yet again on neo con terms. I voted Labour, tactically, to unseat a pointless Tory and have done most of my life but I'm a Green and they have some very good solutions which Labour doesn't.

carrieonbaggage.bsky.social•60 days ago

Too right.
We've been asleep at the wheel.
How now to counter the right / oligarch / corporate axis of evil when liberal/left governments are elderly, elite and fully pwned subsidiaries themselves?

monika-uk.bsky.social•60 days ago

The further Starmer's Labour slides away from socialist principles, the closer the country gets to fascism. I hoped Labour could see the dangers of austerity for the least affluent, but they really don't. They also don't seem to understand how close to financial precipice are the majority.

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

Which of these policies below is not Socialist?

monika-uk.bsky.social•60 days ago

A few good policies don't change the fact that the most important socialist policies are absent.

And, what's worse, the current Labour are much further away from socialist ideas of post-war period, when taxing the really rich wasn't avoided.

nickhi.bsky.social•60 days ago

Starmer’s nasty little rightwing Labour faction is a threat to most of us

miniaci.co.uk•60 days ago

Maybe stop giving Reform media coverage?

carefulaaron.bsky.social•60 days ago

Reform & the Tories have discovered that truth and accuracy don’t really matter. All they need to do is forcefully repeat their simple messages and their client media will promote and amplify them. The Labour press office needs to get its act together.

kinderlady.bsky.social•60 days ago

No - I think he’ll implode sometime or be in breach of parliamentary rules or maybe Clacton will kick him out??

kmco11.bsky.social•60 days ago

It would help if Starmer’s government had a bit more courage regarding the national media, including the Tory-ridden BBC.

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

How much more courageous do you want them to be?

kmco11.bsky.social•60 days ago

I want them to be far more robust with the media, Frankie, for starters. And that’s before Trump gets back in. The winter fuel allowance debacle was also not well handled. They need an Alaistair Campbell for PR…

tbskbskysocial.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour needs to give the public a referendum on re-joining the EU. It's the right thing to do given the recent polls, but Starmer won't do it because he's a follower, not a leader.

andrewbutler99.bsky.social•60 days ago

That’s literally the very last thing that’s needed.

tbskbskysocial.bsky.social•60 days ago

Why?

tessiebear.bsky.social•59 days ago

Boxing Day family party and my 18 year old nephew insists that Britain needs Trump because we need to get Farage in as prime minister. Terrifying.

redroseexile.bsky.social•60 days ago

"Labour's growing election threat from Farage's Reform UK"?

Nope, "Labour's growing election threat from Elon Musk."There, fixed it for you. You're welcome!

prettyhatmachine.bsky.social•60 days ago

The greatest theat to Labour being re-elected is not Farage.

It’s Starmer.

Just as Sunak was Labour’s greatest electoral asset, so Starmer will be for Reform.

t80ms.uk•60 days ago

Not surprised considering how much media coverage is given to a party with 5 MPs instead of one with over 70

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

Or even 160!

nigelorgano.bsky.social•60 days ago

It's because Labour is failing to do what Labour is meant to do. Our work would be easier if we taxed the rich properly instead of going for pensioners as a group.

evies13.bsky.social•60 days ago

Lab are also tanking in Scotland...
But it's the SNP who win from that. Tories and Reform are fighting it out for 2nd and 3rd but with the SNP soaring far above.

jazzaoxon.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour 412, Reform 5. Hardly an opposition. We have a Labour government forv5 years. What a relief!

mrkevinb.bsky.social•60 days ago

When you fighting against a rigged RW media you’ve got more than your work cut out.
Add to that Social
Media algorithms and the ‘Cambridge analytica’ type manipulation of who gets what information and its political slant I’d say you need a suite of emergency measures !!!!

frightfulhobgoblin.bsky.social•60 days ago

Starmer could end the electoral 'threat' tomorrow, if he embraced even the most basic social democracy. But he's hell-bent on out-fascisting the fascists, victimising outgroups and punching down against migrants, trans ppl, the disabled, anyone not in the 1%.

Firmly on course to be One Term Keith 👍

johntonks.bsky.social•60 days ago

Perhaps because Starmer supports high cost of living, big business, private health and genocide.

dontbrexitfixit.bsky.social•60 days ago

You will be at the vanguard of the effort Peter, just like you were in 2024!👍👌👏👏👏🫂🫂🫂🫂

merman1974.bsky.social•60 days ago

“Growing threat?”
Hardly. Reform gained six new councillors out of 200 by-elections since the General Election, and one of those was an Independent who defected to Reform after winning the seat.

msbluewednesday.bsky.social•60 days ago

Well yes, but a lot of 💰could buy votes and/or the Tories could merge with Reform?

msbluewednesday.bsky.social•60 days ago

In any case, try telling the media that as they’re constantly on our screens/front pages/being rammed down our throats.

lightspotter.bsky.social•60 days ago

Pity they can’t report more about what Deform’s policies really are -Farrage is known to support privatising the NHS..

merman1974.bsky.social•60 days ago

Exactly - Reform “the party of the working class” voted AGAINST worker’s rights

jim571.bsky.social•60 days ago

Im sorry peter but its his fault for lying and picking on the poorest thats what happens when you lie to people

julie1176.bsky.social•60 days ago

Count me out. Labour has been targeting people like me since they got into government.

robertroyston.bsky.social•60 days ago

Billionaires with multiple memberships; probably

toongeordie.bsky.social•59 days ago

People need to chill about Labour. If they haven't improved the country in the next 4 and a half years fair enough, dump them, but for the love of Ada, DO NOT vote those reform idiots in.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•60 days ago

It's weeeeird no one looks at their fetishistic othering in context. Example: To April 2024 The ECHR used Rule 39 orders to pause deportations only >15< times in the last >7< years, barely enough to fill a minibus. The UK has the ability to hold 15 prisoners. There is no response for simple context.

carefulaaron.bsky.social•60 days ago

Exactly, the Labour press team should be all over this.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•60 days ago

That's if I got my numbers right but searching for details online that's what I've found - Another: Small boat crossers for 2023 was 29k, 0.04% of UK population, not enough to fill Stoke City FC Stadium. Of those only 8.7k were not eligible for asylum, 0.01%, not enough to fill Grimsby FC stadium.

naffnaffbobface.bsky.social•60 days ago

I need to be clear I'm not saying minority issues are not important or not worthy of kind considered attention with concessions on all sides to reach resolutions all find acceptable, but "Othering" and making majority contention of issues which effect under 1% of the population is just not cricket.

valerair.bsky.social•60 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/sethabramson.bsky.social/post/3le7ftfxnq22e

sylvia-suffragette.bsky.social•60 days ago

No, we just need Starmer to invest in communities, public institutions and stop the profiteering which will make people’s lives better and affordable

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

Erm...👇

sylvia-suffragette.bsky.social•59 days ago

So they have announced plans. And most of those plans that they are planning, don’t lower bills - GB Energy won’t produce energy or lower bills. None of those will improve communities and their facilities - they have stopped the Ownership Fund, and extra police officers don’t make people feel safe

sylvia-suffragette.bsky.social•59 days ago

The construction industry have said they won’t meet their targets of 1.5m houses and they are removing environmental protections for planning - lost green spaces and natural environments are bad
And on it goes, even their plans will make things worse

baronsusistrange.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour really needs to start letting people know what they are doing for them. At the moment it just feels like they are screwing people over.

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

Hard for them to cut through the RW media onslaught!

baronsusistrange.bsky.social•60 days ago

Then they are going to have to really put some effort into doing so and up their game, because the good news is not getting through

millersbob.bsky.social•60 days ago

Mate, if the Labour govt did what a Labour govt should be doing then it would blow deform out of the water. The very reason deform is gaining traction is because this Labour govt is just the same as the tories, they couldn't give 2 f*cks about ordinary folk, that's why I voted green.

wakeylass.bsky.social•60 days ago

Maybe try to avoid the RW media?

kmco11.bsky.social•60 days ago

But you can’t. It’s too dominant - about 80%. Hence the need for Levenson II for starters.

millersbob.bsky.social•60 days ago

Maybe try to avoid the right wing Labour media?....another one duped by Starmer's bullshit.

ianhamilton25.bsky.social•60 days ago

Starmer and Reeves could have used the budget to put more money in people's pockets, they chose not to. The ER contribution hike was used by my employer as an excuse not to pay the usual Christmas bonus. People are not happy.

peteinsaltaire.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour was elected on a false prospectus, claiming they could make Brexit work while ruling out ever rejoining anything that could help. They own Brexit now. This was predictable and predicted; they get zero sympathy from me.

sonay27.bsky.social•60 days ago

I have faith in the UK. No matter what we would never elect someone like Trump (or Farage). Sure we had Brexit and Johnson but on both the UK learned its lesson. No matter how much £ Musk pumps in (and Starmer needs to reform electoral rules so it doesn’t happen), Reform won’t get a majority.

pennyflynn.bsky.social•60 days ago

With our system a hung Parliament is very possible.

sonay27.bsky.social•59 days ago

This is true. But would he get the top job?

pete975.bsky.social•60 days ago

INews are very very dodgy
Who reads it?
Who writes it

msbluewednesday.bsky.social•60 days ago

Well I didn’t know, so looked it up - why am I not surprised 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50598506

pete975.bsky.social•60 days ago

Yep it's all the same voices paying to gatekeep our media for their rich friends and investors
I'm sure many only still exist as an entry ticket to access to establishment.

marksett.bsky.social•60 days ago

Labour are bringing this on themselves.

regularjojo.bsky.social•59 days ago

The threat is real. Starmer needs to stop worrying about his popularity with the billionaire class - that train left the station long ago. We are entering a battle for the soul of democracy. @ukparliament.parliament.uk must wake the fuck up and legislate against Musk-style party donations NOW.

wendynowak.bsky.social•60 days ago

I'm forever posting a reminder that Farage and Reform want to kill us all with NHS privatisation. Who'd vote for a death sentence? #uninsurable

michaelancestry.bsky.social•60 days ago

From Farage's Reformed British Union of Fascists!

fionasimmons.bsky.social•60 days ago

Sadly, in no small part because of Labour's ill-judged decisions.

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