"Evangelicalism is not a simply religious group... Rather, it is a nationalistic political movement whose purpose is to support the hegemony of white Christian men over & against the flourishing of others." - @antheabutler.bsky.social
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ALL churches are political. All should be abolished. If not abolished they should be taxed at 90%. They steal money and provide no positive value to society.
TODAS as igrejas são políticas. Todas devem ser abolidas. Se não forem abolidas, devem ser taxadas em 90%. Elas roubam dinheiro e não fornecem nenhum valor positivo para a sociedade.
Although I agree with the sentiment, this is not a direct quote from Jimmy Carter. This is instead a reporters paraphrasing of something Carter said in his book “Our Endangered Values: America's Moral Crisis"
If your religion teaches you to hate, it's time to find a new religion. We are all God's children. I haven't read the conservative/Republican Bible, apparently, their Bible teaches them to hate anyone different from them and their beliefs.
Religious extremists distort their religion for their own political and financial gain. Americans only feel it is done by Muslims while they ignore how so called "Evangelicals" do it right here in the US.
There are abuses of all religions. The worst part is there are people who do walk the walk.
Well spoken. There is so much ugly and hate in this country and around the world. I'm afraid it's only going to get worse. Our leaders are spewing hate everyday. It's the leaders that set the tone. Trump wants to divide us and make us hate each other. It's disgusting.
Thank you. That was not the way to start the new year. We have carnival season starting next week. There will be thousands and thousands of people in the streets during every parade. I am feeling very uneasy about Mardi Gras. It's truly sad.
It is a truly uniquely diverse American city which has survived all manner of tragedies before.
Unfortunately, the leadership let the city down with a lack of preparation. Resources are an issue, but there are ways to use the resources you have to protect the city & its tourism. Heads should roll.
It was never if something like that could happen, but when. Thank God it didn't happen during a parade. The man was born and raised in Texas. He didn't come over the border, he came over the state line. What is the Republican governor going to do to keep everyone safe from domestic terrorists?
My grandfather was a Decon in the Catholic church and he taught me that a true Christian isn't defined by the words they speak, but instead by their actions and how they treat other people.
Nope. The bible is their holy book. They claim Jesus as their savior. They call themselves Christian. Just because their negotiation with Christian texts & beliefs has resulted in a faith that's very different than yours, doesn't make them any less Christian, much less "fake".
I attended private Christian schools and grew up with a grandfather that was a Decon in the Catholic Church and a grandmother that dedicated her life to the church. I was never taught to hate anyone. I was taught to turn away from evil and Satan. I answer to one being and that's God.
Frederick Nietzsche said this is what is destroying Germany in 1885. If it takes over the government it will kill millions of its own people and the neighbors. Secularism will make Germany strong not curved.
Jesus was obviously a socialist. Committed to equality. He and his disciples were able to do their work because women bankrolled them. Time to look at facts.
Christa, I grew up on hippy Jesus, love, peace, help your neighbor, love your neighbor. I have no idea where this orange Jesus loving goose stepping, hate and kill your neighbor if they don't think like we do, came from.
Evangelicalism (/ˌiːvænˈdʒɛlɪkəlɪzəm, ˌɛvæn-, -ən-/), also called evangelical Christianity or evangelical Protestantism, is a worldwide interdenominational movement within Protestant Christianity that puts primary emphasis on evangelization. Same thing.
Religion is a cult based on fairy tales and wishful thinking and therefore a danger to the rest of us. Spoiler alert, there’s no magic man living in the clouds. Idiots 😂😂😂
Funny. You’re the ones who seem to think that our darker completed friends can’t get by without your help. That’s the bigotry of low expectations. Holding people to your personal standards is not racism.
Sorry, I didn’t know Putin or Trump had anything to do with this thread. You are bringing Trump into the conversation? That takes the depth of a parking lot puddle. You, too, apparently can’t answer a simple question. Are you old enough to be on here?
I have no idea what you are talking about. The left wants equality and justice for everyone. That is the biggest difference between the parties. We want to serve all people and the right extremists only want the oligarchs to control the country.
It is supposedly the most advanced country in the world, yet it is inordinately controlled by a self-selected cabal of charlatans peddling fairy stories that they themselves don't even believe!
Just unquestioning faith in a church which rapes kids
There's so much damn hypocrisy and I say and will always say that Christianity is one of the worst religions there is out there. I grew up Christian because of my family and i hated it growing up because of all the judgement and all the crap I saw.
I can not stand organised religion for the same reasons, devotees are either mentally deficient (wrt critical analysis and consideration) or using religion to 'other' groups of people they don't like.
Intrinsically, they are either morons or hateful 🤷♂️
I 100% agree and I saw this growing up and maybe it was my rebellious youth to question everything or maybe just seeing how history played out to think for myself and not blindly accept things but either way I knew that it wasn't right. I can go on with what's wrong with organized religion
I'm wondering how things will turn out when the older-style evangelicals, who are responsible for decades of Religious Right conservatism, come up against the current Top Christians, the conservative Catholics. That sort of clash has been pretty ugly in the past.
Sprinkle with Prosperity Gospel bullshit to justify pastors and the rich as being morally upright because "God wouldn't let terrible people prosper." Honestly, the disgusting use of Luke 6:38 to pressure giving by promising a slot machine payout is one thing that aoured me on a church.
This isn't simply about religion as some would take. Atheists too have committed grave crimes. So it's not that simple.
What America has is, an popularisation of a specific type of Christianity that endorses Jewish supremacy in the ME. That is primarily in view of triggering the 2nd appearance
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In that promotion, they support white supremacy, at 'home' & 'abroad'. This is contradictory to actual Christian teaching. However, these Christians view Jews in the ME as Jesus bait. The Jews arw awaiting their warlord Messiah, that'll lead them to victory worldwide.
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Both parties are cultish, and wrong. In this the USA's political elite has given in to such prophecy and is promoting & defending racist fascism in the ME. The Muslim nations, mostly view siding the USA as a means to protection of their rule.
So, they're all f'd up & misrepresenting the faiths
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I keep wondering if these people deserve protected status under First Amendment as a religion if they morph into a set of political beliefs only loosely based on religion.
Anti-Evangelicalism isn’t like anti-semitism, right? Can you be accused of discrimination against Evangelicals?
I think the movement you’re calling “evangelicalism” is a corruption of the true idea behind the word.
A Christian evangelical spreads the teachings of Jesus to the wider world. I don’t think Jesus ever proclaimed the supremacy of one race or nation -and certainly not white Americans.
Here's what I don't get.
As per the paperwork written 100 years after JC was murdered.
Was he asking people to "spread his words" or live by them. Seems like everyone associated with evangelical purpose spends more time, money and energy professing the word rather than pondering them.
I don't see it that way based on the evangelicals I personally know. The reason I question your take on this is that painting evangelicals with a broad brush and no differentiation makes it more difficult to pull some away. This was a close election. Not many people have to change to matter.
I can’t see any Christian values in their behaviour or who they support.
I wonder if they only meet in church buildings to continue to reap a tax benefit.
It's like 90 percent of the churches in Houston, it's all about networking tax free and other than their theatrics, there is nothing about faith, just about party approved religion
Evangelicals like other "Christian" sects are basicaly an America invention, where basicaly some clever conman decided to sell "faith and redemption" just like another commodity to very ignorant and gullible people...
Then comes Trump and embrace that sect for their votes...!
Tragically, too many Americans view "Christian" as being their culture without Jesus instead of following Jesus' teachings to love ALL their neighbors as themselves.
Oh I guarantee you... I never ever forget that the Southern Baptist Convention and white evangelicals have a huge problem with clergy sex abuse & coverups... and with their own recalcitrance in addressing it or holding anyone accountable. That's what my recent book is about: BAPTISTLAND.
Osteen, who has lived very well off his people for years, would not open his (his!) church to help people in a natural disaster.
WWJD?
Pay taxes or be truly charitable.
Apostasy is real. Many folks are coming around to reality. Churches who blatantly came out selecting Barabbas Trump are experiencing divisions. Eventually, empty seats will increase and operational capacity will fall - due to decreased funds via tithes and offering. Bad tree can’t have good fruit.
I feel like it's kinda similar to how some Islamist groups are really more about Arab ultra-nationalism rather than about anything religious, that's why a lot of them target Kurds despite them also being Sunni Muslims.
With the white Evangelicals and Chrisitan nationalists, if it was just about religion then they wouldn't be racist against black and Hispanic people who are mostly Christian just like them. It's just white identity politics that's tailored to seem more mainstream and respectable.
Another comparison I can use is Russian nationalists utilizing Orthodox Christianity as part of their nationalism. And it's like, cool bro, if you're so pro-Orthodox then why are you killing Orthodox Christians in Ukraine?
I'd quibble with the language. I know Evangelicals who aren't "double-talking, controlling, political lunatics" who do a great deal social work in my community, esp. surrounding food insecurity. The ppl of which you speak, I'd call Christian Nationalists-political ideologues, not religious adherents
Trumpified Christians want to expand the influence/power/wealth of Christian Nationalists. Anyone, any method or grievance, which advances their cause, is justified in being used. How much that conflicts with Christ's message is irrelevant to them.
Jimmy Carter was the only evangelical I know who actually lived as Christ taught. The rest live like those sinners Christ stood against for all his time on this Earth.
In 1966 Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips argued that success would mean to bring together the largest number of white ethnic prejudices into the party without fragmenting the existing coalition. A strategy still employed today.
I walked away because I couldn’t in good conscience be a pastor anymore. Too many people practically worshipping Trump and MAGA. I know some of them looked at me like a pariah because I spoke out against it.
It’s absolutely maddening. They have already decided what they want it to mean and won’t hear or accept anything else. Folks would nod their heads in agreement, then go out and do the opposite. I’d just had enough. I was banging my head against a concrete wall. It’s not everyone, but enough.
Good on you for speaking up and standing your ground. I also think too many people take their marching orders from so-called Christian leaders such as Franklin Graham. Sickens me.
I left in my last year of my BMin (Nazarene) because of the way I felt they were bastardizing the faith and using it as a tool for control and manipulation.
It was really painful watching their open embrace of a worldview that was, to my eye, so blatantly against everything that we had been taught. I just couldn’t reconcile that any longer.
Vote Green, the two parties are far more alike than we ever admit. Until an independent takes the power the goverment will never be for the people by the people. We are all unique individuals not simply the sun of group identity assigned to us in a system designed to divide and conquer all of us.
And yet if everyone voted Green we wouldn’t have anyone indebted to any major industry. It’s like people don’t get green energy is a multi trillion dollar international industry equal in influence as the oil industry is for instance.
Both parties sold out to corporate interests long ago and we just play their games and pretend the 2 hand picked candidates chosen to protect their party and their financial interests above all is the same as the people picking the candidate who loyal to the citizens above all.
A vote for green is a thrown away vote. Only vote for green if you are trying to make a statement and your state is solidly one color. (Where really, due to the electoral college, it won't matter.)
And yes my state is red. Red, red and notice independents gained 10 million votes from last election to this one, mainly in states where if all Dems voted green, green would have beat out the red candidates that have held control for decades.
And as long as we hold this opinion on a mass scale,
We will never experience changes in politics. 51% of the country are independents, more than both parties combined.
If we voted that way, the other parties would be forced to align with the people not special interests.
Believe me, I understand your point of view I’m 72 and well informed and have been supported of the Green Party for years back in the day. You have to understand right now the oligarchs control things and that’s the majority Republican/MAGA party. We must save democracy first that’s the priority🇺🇸💙
If you want to save democracy you would be screaming vote 3rd party and end the power and reign of the same billionaires and same corporations who own both parties.
And voting blue won’t do that. The dems and republicans are both financed by competing interest groups in the same industries for their own profit reasons, not the tax payers best interests.
They aren't brainwashed; this is exactly what they want. The blending of religion and politics is a deliberate strategy to consolidate power and push their agenda. It's not about faith, it's about control. They want a racist dictator.
Because they give politics as little attention as possible. The only information they do hear about is through friends & neighbors. Some people didn't know Biden dropped from the race until election day.
And they still vote
It's political illiteracy, and it's a serious problem
It was beautiful. I saw him, our lord and savior jesus christ. His hair was flowing like a river and his eyes were like the sun. He had wings with gems inlaid upon them, and a flaming cloak. At length he spoke to me, and whispered “I don’t think that was a micro dose”.
Obviously enough, promoting the hegemony of white Christian men is scarcely good, but, what makes this even worse is the hateful Calvinist doctrine of the 'elect', this supposing a high degree of stratification or even exclusion among said white Christian men.
So only white Americans are evangelical? What kind of racist culturally inaccurate BS is this? Reverse racism is a thing and this is a perfect example of it. Try pushing for love of everyone versus pushing hate. The hypocrisy is deep. Shame on this nonsense.
And they aren't Christians. They are Authoritarians, the religion is Yt male Nationalist Authoritarianism- once people understand that it all makes sense.
I don’t trust anyone who is really religious, doesn’t matter what their religion. I can get on board with the happy community Jesus people who pick and choose and try to live a good Golden Rule life but if you’re hard-core religious fundamentalist you’re an idiot. I don’t have time for that shit.
Evangelicalism is a twin to Naziism. I see little difference and great similarities. Both are truly disgusting organizations. May they both go to hell and stay there.
I hear you.
But please know many many of what I would call ‘normal Christians’ are a million miles away from the Evangelical ones.
Trust me, they scare me!
Damage is done. They caused me to examine my beliefs and now I'm an atheist. I wonder how many more like me. I wonder how many more turned their back on your god because it was co-opted it for their hate? Historically, it's happened a lot. Many have died needlessly in the name of your god.
The ability of the political evangelicos to discard any teachings of their putative leader that conflict with their objectives is a good example of the limits religion has in actually changing behavior. Few seek the narrow way just as he predicted.
This is why all religions, regardless of their hegemony towards others, should always be ridiculed and scrutinized. Religion is fundamentally about control and dominance and Christianity is the worst offender of all.
Please consider joining Americans United for Separation of Church and State and/or the Freedom From Religion Foundation. They do good work and they need our support now more than ever.
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it's all projection cus they're too stupid to understand reality
Christianity TODAY has a real problem.
It spends more time fighting FOR oppression
and fighting WITH the oppressed ...
than it does healing or helping hurting people.
These "Jesus freaks" need a Holy Spirit (whole spirit) makeover 🤦🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
As best as I can tell, even he was eventually seduced to the dark side.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/31/us/jimmy-carter-evangelical-christians-cec/index.html
There are abuses of all religions. The worst part is there are people who do walk the walk.
Unfortunately, the leadership let the city down with a lack of preparation. Resources are an issue, but there are ways to use the resources you have to protect the city & its tourism. Heads should roll.
Not evangelism
It is supposedly the most advanced country in the world, yet it is inordinately controlled by a self-selected cabal of charlatans peddling fairy stories that they themselves don't even believe!
Just unquestioning faith in a church which rapes kids
I can not stand organised religion for the same reasons, devotees are either mentally deficient (wrt critical analysis and consideration) or using religion to 'other' groups of people they don't like.
Intrinsically, they are either morons or hateful 🤷♂️
What America has is, an popularisation of a specific type of Christianity that endorses Jewish supremacy in the ME. That is primarily in view of triggering the 2nd appearance
1/3
2/3
So, they're all f'd up & misrepresenting the faiths
3/3
Anti-Evangelicalism isn’t like anti-semitism, right? Can you be accused of discrimination against Evangelicals?
A Christian evangelical spreads the teachings of Jesus to the wider world. I don’t think Jesus ever proclaimed the supremacy of one race or nation -and certainly not white Americans.
As per the paperwork written 100 years after JC was murdered.
Was he asking people to "spread his words" or live by them. Seems like everyone associated with evangelical purpose spends more time, money and energy professing the word rather than pondering them.
It’s just easier to plaster his name on our bigotries and beliefs. That gives us the authority to make others behave the way we want them to.
I wonder if they only meet in church buildings to continue to reap a tax benefit.
I was once one of them.
Now, I embrace Buddhism.
Buddhism is NOT a religion. It is a practice of self discipline and compassion.
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Then comes Trump and embrace that sect for their votes...!
WWJD?
Pay taxes or be truly charitable.
https://publicorthodoxy.org/2022/03/13/a-declaration-on-the-russian-world-russkii-mir-teaching/
We're proudly marching backwards into the 19th Century.
https://www.ngrippel.com/ideo.html
https://religionnews.com/2024/08/26/anti-trump-evangelical-christians-make-plans-to-make-the-case-for-harris-2/
Everything that the good book teaches is put in the evangelical mangle and re-emerges as racism wrapped in a bible…
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Worst is that after a looks like more open minded era we are galloping backward...
At one point it was the greatest threat to the democracy.
What did our admin do to squash it?
We will never experience changes in politics. 51% of the country are independents, more than both parties combined.
If we voted that way, the other parties would be forced to align with the people not special interests.
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And they still vote
It's political illiteracy, and it's a serious problem
I notice you’re into speaking out on systemic abuses
Just asking so I can stay out of your way…
Just pay taxes or really be charitable and take care of people like WWJD.
But please know many many of what I would call ‘normal Christians’ are a million miles away from the Evangelical ones.
Trust me, they scare me!