Pale horse. This is twice the price of GPT 4.5! What are we doing here? techcrunch.com/2025/03/19/o... - ThreadSky

edzitron.com • 4 days ago

Pale horse. This is twice the price of GPT 4.5! What are we doing here?
https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/19/openais-o1-pro-is-its-most-expensive-model-yet/

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bahrad.bsky.social•4 days ago

A lot of the buyers are people in the ecosystem being subsidized with credits or pressured to buy by their VC backers, who are also probably invested in OpenAInof course. So to some extent it isn't a real marketplace.

fedja-h.bsky.social•4 days ago

They're out of ideas. This is kind of like CPUs, when they had trouble engineering improvements, they shoved more watts into them.

It seems openai algos aren't getting better with time (at least as noticeably as before), so they're "cheating" by throwing increased resource load into a query.

lethaljorts.bsky.social•4 days ago

They need to start feeding the horses better

punkey.org•4 days ago

Thesis: OpenAI is trying so hard to find a golden goose that they're just shoving these models out the door as soon as their "flip-over-and-catch-fire" rate drops below 50%, so they do no optimization, which makes their insane inefficiency even worse

kbenjaminstone.bsky.social•4 days ago

They are just going to keep going right until like 4.9998?

Because there might be no true next step with these LLMs.

fiofiorello.bsky.social•4 days ago

it's so funny that their only selling point ever is "better answers," something you can conveniently measure in an infinite number of meaningless ways

fiofiorello.bsky.social•4 days ago

Q: how is this new version better?

A: it is better at doing stuff

fedja-h.bsky.social•4 days ago

It's also better at this test we made for it. Oh yeah, we did change the test as well.

oldbaby.bsky.social•4 days ago

let them burn all of their money

mikeyred.bsky.social•4 days ago

God this is so obviously a grift.

basquiatball.bsky.social•4 days ago

That "uses more computing to think harder and...." quote is such a hilarious non-statement. The contempt you need to have for your audience for that to be your explanation is telling

not-wyoming.bsky.social•4 days ago

ok so pale horse is taken but which horse is this? https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/18/nvidia-and-google-deepmind-will-help-power-disneys-cute-robots/

mmathog.bsky.social•4 days ago

It’s incredible that even after endless money dumps they can’t even pretend to go the Amazon/Uber route and already have to start seriously charging.

thatobscureobject.bsky.social•4 days ago

I'm a little confused about your stance here. Isn't one of your points that OpenAI is massively undercharging for their services and thus unprofitable? So a higher price is more realistic.

Of course this will probably tank usage if no one wants to pay that much, but that's not a priori given

edzitron.com•4 days ago

yes, and my position here is them raising prices is a bad sign for their business, in that they are getting desperate. And I bet these aren't even profitable

clevernickname23.bsky.social•4 days ago

Yup. This is how companies burn their existing customer base to the ground in order to get another few months of operating capital, or in an attempt to show growth to an equity investor.

richardwlaughlin.com•4 days ago

With all these pale horses around it's easy to see where these companies get their marketing horseshit.

mcguinness.ai•4 days ago

1000× 4o-mini. Should come with frequent AIer points for that kind of money.

evilmagnus.bsky.social•4 days ago

Let us all look forward to OAI continuing to not break out revenue per product for Reasons

character-study.bsky.social•4 days ago

These charlatans need to face the music. The last time I used ChatGTP it tried to 5G me.

zestybasilpizza.bsky.social•4 days ago

Please just let our thirsty thirsty idiot son drink more compute and money. If he thinks a whole big bunch he sometimes says something smartish.

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