Trump is vastly worse than Chamberlain who genuinely thought peace was attainable (but was still rapidly rearming in case it wasn't). He didn't actively ally with Hitler and fought him when no alternative was left. - ThreadSky

samfr.bsky.social • 11 hours ago

Trump is vastly worse than Chamberlain who genuinely thought peace was attainable (but was still rapidly rearming in case it wasn't). He didn't actively ally with Hitler and fought him when no alternative was left.

Reposted from Scott Galloway

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scomea.bsky.social•10 hours ago

The Molotov/Ribbentrop pact is a better analogy with Trump agreeing to carve up other countries with a Russian dictator.

richardrcubitt.bsky.social•11 hours ago

He’s not Neville Chamberlain, he’s Vidkun Quisling.

ilcontealmaviva.bsky.social•11 hours ago

If we have to pick a Chamberlain for Trump, then it should be Houston Stewart Chamberlain.

muttley76.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Yes I’ve seen these comparisons between Trump and Chamberlain a few times lately and thought them rather wide of the mark. Plus one might charitably argue Chamberlain was really just buying the UK time to rearm and didn’t really believe the treaty would hold.

davidchild.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Walked in and saw it on the telly no warning and it broke me. The cruelty.

shrewsgirl.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Well said.

samfr.bsky.social•11 hours ago

If anything he's Stalin in 1939 - completely cynically slicing up Poland.

theodora.bsky.social•10 hours ago

But, also, publicly, thereby allowing affected parties time to rearm. Stalin at least had the sense to keep his pact secret.

plainlincoln.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Come now. Stalin wasn't perfect, was a ruthless tyrant and a murderer, but he had a brain, wasn't senile, and cared about a great deal more than accumulating money...🤔

annedeighton.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Please, please don't churn out Chamberlain etc. Read Engelsberg (Bennett) for good int pol backgrounder. If you wt historical ref point, Nazi-Soviet Pact is closer: but Trump/Putin relationship is now becoming different from Nazi-Soviet pact.

clatch.bsky.social•11 hours ago

It's Yalta 1945.

Just wait until China and Taiwan enter the chat.

annedeighton.bsky.social•11 hours ago

ex that US, SU, UK were all fighting on the same side then...

clatch.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Sure but up to a point.

equusonthebuses.bsky.social•11 hours ago

A cartoonist who saw this coming in the first term…

bobborsley.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Bet they are both gutted that Syria is still alive.

theniceman.bsky.social•11 hours ago

You seen this?

https://bsky.app/profile/martinmatishak.bsky.social/post/3ljb7hngcx22u

tomhill.bsky.social•11 hours ago

I feel a bit sorry for Chamberlain. He was wrong but it's easy to say that in hindsight; his motives were decent enough though.

joshkeeling94.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Yep.

techpriest.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Chamberlain (of whom I am no fan at all!) also backed Churchill against Halifax over the territorial integrity and freedom of Poland! Halifax was still clinging to appeasement and Chamberlain had turned to "this far and no further"

jleytong.bsky.social•11 hours ago

For all its faults, Chamberlain was a decent man. Hard to compare with the man child in the Oval Office.

jleytong.bsky.social•4 minutes ago

*his

strategyaaron.bsky.social•11 hours ago

He’s more like…

18thcenturyboy.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Trump is Hitler.
At this rate, there will be war, and soon.

robjfh.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Yeah, I hate this comparison. Molotov-Ribbentrop is the correct one.

stphrolland.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Not so surprising given that the reason for Impeachment #1 of Trump, was the blocking of 400 millions US$ of missiles supply to freshly elected Ukrainian president Zelensky

I had followed the investigations and congress trial hearings... MAGA politicians are just continuing what they started!

stphrolland.bsky.social•10 hours ago

The followers of Trump are so ILLITERATE that Trump used the technique #readthetranscript as line of defense

In the phone call transcript he explicitly asks "a favor" from #Zelensky, minutes before a phone call to freeze/block the US funds

Guess what? the trial of Trump #impeachment #1 was a farce

stphrolland.bsky.social•10 hours ago

A real FARCE

It was special trial, because it was the #US #Congress to make a verdict

I have followed how #USA American senators judged Trump: acquitted despite the PROOFS of his crimes

This is the same #America that was insulting mocking betraying #Ukraine tonight - they LOVE #gaslighting

stphrolland.bsky.social•10 hours ago

#USBetrayal

fartboxer.bsky.social•7 hours ago

Interestingly, Ukraine has holidays and statues for actual Nazis to this day 😂

spqesq.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Trump isn't so much allied as he is owned.

mattsecrett.bsky.social•7 hours ago

If anything Trump is Hitler and (potentially) Starmer is Chamberlain? Apols if point made further down already.

lornacurry.bsky.social•10 hours ago

And a man deeply traumatised by WW1 and unsure of ability to fight it and support of population, allies and empire.

jordanfurlong.com•11 hours ago

This seems the more apt comparison.

shizzledizzle.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Chamberlain had a genuine concern and love for our country but made a mistake.

Trump would set his country on fire for money or a night with a Russian prostitute.

brucealexb.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Chamberlain also wasn’t a German asset.

cmodell.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Trump is and always has been Mussolini wannabe.

jonnyb69.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Arguably Starmer was in the Chamberlain role yesterday...

bleakmidwinter.bsky.social•10 hours ago

Yes, my father was laying out a mental hospital in the late 1930s. He said they all knew it was actually to prepare for war casualties

danfurmage.bsky.social•11 hours ago

Chamberlain was a man broken by the Great War and desperately clinging to peace, as part of that generation. A honourable man who made a huge mistake - he was nothing like Trump.

alexjw.bsky.social•4 hours ago

He was also trying to buy time whilst the UL rearmed itself

coppergrease.bsky.social•10 hours ago

He's more like Mosley...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

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