It´s a shame that #FCKPutin and #DumbTrump want to leave #Ukraine and the rest of #Europe off the table, such a discussion and "deal" wouldn´t ever lead to #PeaceForUkraine, what kind of country would it be at all then???
I am not religious, but I do believe that we will all face a mirror of truth when we pass from this realm..... He, President Zelensky, will not have the horror that putin, dt, em and others will see in theirs. Their egos do not serve them or this world ...
"Zelenskiy...20 burning oil refineries don't lie. Many of them hit by remote controlled Cessna size aircraft flying at 90 mph.. Russia is feeble. Same GDP as Florida." not his quote, but follow https://www.facebook.com/stefan.korshak and ask yourself are we willing to step up?
The problem is that Trump will make a deal with Putin to
Split all Ukraine minerals and riches. Then stop funding or sending arms. Trump will watch Ukraine get slaughtered.
I am so heartened to find this post. We in the UK & Europe can't tell you how much we admire you & President Zelensky. I can only hope that without America, we can together beat the thug Putin. Shame on those who are siding with him. Stay safe x
Nor should you, President Zelenskyy. The leaders of BOTH or those countries have demonstrated their lack of leadership, negatively affecting their respective nations and the citizens of each and rendering their opinions untenable. You have the potential to be the leader other leaders look up to.
It is, but it's not really crazy with Ukraine, they desperately need US help, it's not really a choice in their situation, and Trump is mentally a spoiled child who likes to be complimented.
It’s totally unacceptable that a country takes on the role of deciding the faith of another without them having a say. Who does that President of yours think he is? Geez. And what’s equally bad is that Europe won’t be involved either. Putting an entire continent at risk. Way to go Trump.
As much as I dislike that clown, I do believe that a true peace agreement should include all parties.
Having "peace talks" w/o Ukraine is as stupid as having them w/o Russia, as they did a while ago.
Ukraine should never be required to give up any territory to an invading country. The United States need to continue our support until Russia withdraws from their country.
Both US & Russia can fuck off. Peace deal means Russia can back out of Ukraine, all of Ukraine, & Putin, who is the richest person in the world, can FOAD & all his money goes to Ukraine to rebuild.
I support this stance 100%. The US is not the boss of Ukraine and should not be speaking for a sovereign country. Negotiations should be between Ukraine and Russia only!
I don't agree - I believe that the US, Europe, and UK should all be at the table in support of Ukraine. But we already know that the US is not at the table for anything except monetary gain. Disgusting and destructive. As Kim Wilde says, "a trail of destruction".
Are you kidding? Anything to do with possible personal financial gain (legal or not) always involves Donald Trump. Besides everything revolves around a sociopathic narcissist. But I agree, he should never have been allowed to represent the US again.
Zelensky rejected the 50% stake in their rare earth minerals Trump wanted. His usual grifting and looking for for financial gain for himself never ends. He really is a POS.
They've all helped Ukraine and given a lot of resources. They've earned a place at the table. They should have and demand one. If anyone as a #PutinAppeasor it's #Trump who doesn't belong at the table. He wants Europe to pick up the costs but not have a say. That's bs in a big way.
I did not say they shouldn’t be at the table out that they have no place at the table.
What I’m saying is they don’t have to be there to be an influence on Zelinskyy or even Trump & Putin.
By then stop giving money, arms, & ammunition says a lot to every Country that they support Ukraine solvency.
You really know nothing! How do you think a country that is at war with Russia could do that? Putin is ruthless and will kill and steal at the drop of a hat, just like Trump! They both want to own and control the world. Wise up!
Give Ukraine the rockets that can reach Moscow. It's insane that the country that's been invaded can't hit targets inside of the country that invaded them.
Have you heard the term World War? When Russia retailitates, it will involve the rest of Europe and then the US.
I really wonder what happened to history books.
I don't think that is how that works. I really am in no way very knowledgeable about war, but a small country like the Ukraine launching all its might against a larger enemy would be catastrophic and probably engage other countries to prevent the Russian vermin from spreading throughout the world.
And what will he do, exactly? He did everything US asked him to do, to no avail. Now that US is cutting the losses, he should know he's just one of those.
Unfortunately, let us not be surprised when the US,after meeting unilaterally with Putin about Ukraine, declares that Zelenskyy is an impediment to the peace process and must step down or be removed to achieve peace.
NATO is siding with Zelenskyy, and so do the people of Ukraine. If they try to install a Russian figurehead, they will either kill him or run him out of town on a rail as they did before. These guys are TOUGH.
Agreed. But both Trump and Putin are big on retribution and payback. They both want Zelenskyy gone. Trump because Z wouldn’t deal about Hunter Biden and got Trump impeached. Putin because about a million casualties and loss of face
ALSO, private aid is almost certainly going to continue. I know my sister sends a box of supplies almost monthly to a family who were based in Kiev. It's not the same as bombs and equipment, but it helps with civilian morale, that's for sure!
It happened in a roundabout way. I shop on Etsy&order from Ukrainian artisans whenever I can. It so happens that I found a beautifully-carved dragon comb4 my sister, who is a Dem, but lives in a Red State. When it arrived, she wz very captivated & took an interest,writing2Mikhail,learning of his fam
Zelenskyy knows their game & is unafraid. If th U.S. backs down from AID2 UKRAINE, my guess is that a lot of ppl will PROTEST&DEMONSTRATE.
If that fails, Canada, Europe, S. Korea, Taiwan (& maybe a few others) will lock arms 2continue THEIR aid, P!SSING on Trump the whole time. (He hates that).
🎤You know what?
Can't say I blame him. Trump will publicly say one thing then do another on behalf of Russia and try and make it appear as if Zelinski welshed on an agreement.
Good. Unbelievable situation. Ukraine clearly is being treated as a real estate deal to divy up its resources. Trump’s demand of 50% ownership of Ukraine’s precious metals resources is nothing but Extortion.
People, speak out more about Ukraine. Our Puppet President is trying to destroy it. Yes, we have much to fight against, but let's not wait until it's too late for Ukraine.
Trump’s U.S. And Putin’s Russia—Two Sadistic Lawless Criminal Fascist Regimes—Offer Zelensky “Nothing” —“In Exchange”- For Taking Over Ukraine’s Sovereignty, Ending Ukraine’s Democratic Government And Ending Ukraine People Freedoms!
Better To Fight Until Death —Than Live Death!!
I think some of yall are middle the point while making valid points. He's saying anything without us is not about us or for us. You can't make a deal about another country without that other country.
Hear what you're saying, friend, and agree. But these are new times. I wouldn't put anything past these criminals.
Someone else also pointed out the mess drumpf made in Afghanistan by not taking that government into negotiations and let the taliban in .... so ....
We had one once, called The Budapest Memorandum. Putin shredded that, and proved that any future agreement b/w Russia and Ukraine must involve the latter's accession to NATO. Anything less is just buying time for yet another invasion.
Someone could pull a trigger. f cholesterol doesn't do the job, the ballistic solution is an option. Tyrannicide is okay if it is an act of self-defense.
Getting rid of the #Felon #orangedecibyte #VPTrump and his ilk one way or another is the only way to restore democracy in the USA.
Indeed. I was just thinking, l don't even care how at this point, E-lawn MUST be stopped. Ffs, he accidentally fired the ppl who manage the nukes! WTAF! He's a amphetamine-riddled, power-mad, dangerous & tyrannical imbecile. This isn't even his country ffs😡 and the Aussies don't even want him!
Good people in the US and around the world will resist and go into damage limitation mode, when the damage is done they will be unelectable for a generation.
I am so proud of this man for standing up for what is right and defending his country! It’s heartwarming to know that this kind of person still exists. I just wish my country had one.
What an ungrateful little grifter, let's see how he makes out without ANY aid from the US. This is not the Biden WH that was easily manipulated.
Zelensky is dealing with the "big boys" now and he will lose badly.
That’s what a leader is. He stands up for his country and his people not for a fucking billionaire that bought his ass! You could never pay Zielinski to betray his country! the felon you could! Remember that when Russia owns us, you’ll know why!
It's his country.......not Russia's or Rumps. He doesn't have to sign over mineral rights to any arsehole who tells him he must. Trump is Ukraine's enemy just as Russia is. Hey Europe....get something in place to fight this!!!! Stop these regimes.
Why should chump decide on Ukraines fate anyway. Not his country.
Chump is stupid and would easily be fooled by Putin, whose KGB training made a liar and manipulator. Putler knows he can twist trump around but european leaders are not so stupid.
The US has FAILED in its directive to protect allies across the world who resist communism and fascism. All that military spending to have Trump make us Russias BITCH.
The US has installed far right and fascist governments in dozens of countries throughout the world. They never cared how brutal they were, as long as they aligned with the US.
I wish people would stop clumping in 75+ million people with the maga fascists.
We didn’t fail Ukraine. MAGA and Trump did. Biden gave them as much as he could. Also remember Trump told everyone they didn’t need their votes and to stay home. Hummm
There is a phrase in cybersecurity. Physical access is total access.
Its well past time that any active memory in ram would be unrecoverable.
Unless significant data was stored cold somewhere i dont see a logical path. I would really love for someone to prove me wrong. Like ill stop smoking if so
sorry non-Trump voting Americans, this is NOT what we (Europeans, rest of the world, vulnerable communities in US) need from you now: telling us that it's not your fault.
This is so NOT about you
What we need from citizens of the US now is that you all work at ending this nightmare
Well we live here and in more of a panic then you at the moment. So in a world of 💩. Don’t be that 💩. Be kind to good humans. We Americans who are being held and pillaged against our will need your help. There are 75+ people who are extremely upset and might lose everything. So don’t be that 💩.
Thank you!!!! I am disgusted by a portion of my countrymen & women, but I wasn’t one of them- don’t blame me and don’t associate me with those who did please!
All decisions on how peace is negotiated between Ukraine and Russia must include Ukraine and Russia. If not it is not a negotiation but a takeover. Trump wants to take the spoils without the effort.
The only way Russia should have any input is if they do a quick and immediate withdraw. Russia is teetering and only being held up by its foreign agents (see Mango Mussolini). EU needs to organize and deal with the issue whilst the US twiddles its thumbs on the side.
I agree. Russia is WEAK
WHY else would Putin ask for more Soilders from North Korea??? If Europe could ban together, they can Kill Two Birds with one stone, destroy Russia and jail both Putin and zTrump forever
If ukraine gives ground, russia will come back for more. If ukraine falls, its europe next, not if but when. Russia will never be this weak again, europe needs to fight now in ukraine or inside europe in a few years!! 🤷♂️
I have solidarity with Ukraine! They are a sovereign nation. They are a proud people who have given so much blood and treasure to their defense. That's an honor to even help them a little bit.
Dipshitplomacy from the Republican Administration rears its ugly head again. And the question that arises is which Democrats voted for Marco Rubio to be the Secretary of the Department of State and what the hell were you thinking when you did that?
Try to imagine if China and N. Korea made a pact as to how to divide up the United States, without the U.S. presence in the "negotiations". Wow! Maybe Ukraine should drop a big one on the Kremlin, before it's too late.
And Zelensky absolutely shouldn't. Imagine a sovereign country being bartered over by two outside nations, one of whom invaded them and started the war and committed atrocious war crimes against Ukraine. My God! 🤦🏼♀️🤬
Well, it happened before, when United Kingdom, France and Germany accorded nazi Germany would take the Sudets instead of coming towards the west. Which had the outcome we know. Years later, their diplomacy were still saying it was necessary to give the Allies "time to organize". Wrong then and now
What is there to negotiate? Russia is the aggressor. It’s simple, the war ends when Russia withdraws from Ukraine. What’s the Musk plan? Also simple, he wants the lithium and rare earth deposits in Ukraine just like Putin. Putin is about to fall. Don’t throw him a lifeline.
With our current administration, probably a good idea. America has lost its credibility on the world stage, and we deserve it. Don't trust the US government, as it has become a crime syndicate run by criminals, oligarchs (robber barons), rapists and pedos, and narcissist psychopaths.
No one's laugh more like shocked and can't believe America stops and assist other countries with dictators!! But cannot sort their Government issues happening before their eyes!! Wish the older guy was still in-charge!! Thank You #PresidentBiden !!
ENOUGH!
WE have had
ENOUGH dictator donny
ENOUGH ELON
WE are done with you
WE have had ENOUGH
WE aren't giving up
WE have simply had ENOUGH
WE are
STANDING UP FOR AMERICA
GET ELON THE HELL OUT
UNPLUG ELON
DEFUND ELON save America Billions in one swoop
25/47
Hisassholiness is fucking nuts
Good…the felon and the murder are nothing but liars who will kill, lie and deceive just to get what they want…these two in addition to the S. African immigrant will eventually get what they deserve…karma = one day everybody’s bill comes due.
wanna know something, that is what europe want to do as well, they realised that the Usa isn,t a helpful ally anymore and will try to become more independant of it over time,
after all, they still got canada and mexico to help
It’s frustrating to see certain politicians make excuses or downplay serious issues. Ukraine’s fight for sovereignty is a major test of global leadership and integrity. Have you been following this closely from the beginning?
Europe needs to modify its relationship with Comrades Musk, Trump, and Vance from the United States of Russia. These Comrades all wear RED hats because they and Republican business owners need to kiss Putin's ring or his assets in order to do business in Russia.
On bended knee as well. He towers over the diminutive Putin but he's always trying to shrink into the floor when he's near the boss. Cowards like Trump go looking for people to suck up to yjem just like he does to Putin. Disgusting ass-wipe.
Legally, you may be exactly right, but I'd have to research that out more to say that confidently. Either way, it seems highly likely this conversation is actually happening -- and needs to happen, which is insane beyond belief
We're going to have to invent new words for trump before it's over
The rest of the world needs to step up to the bullies Putin and Herr Trump.
The world needs to isolate them, blockade them, and support Ukraine.
Ukraine deserves to be in NATA and the UN.
US and Russia need to be ejected from these bodies.
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Were so sorry about Dumb
Dumb Donald! Slava Ukraine!
🇺🇦🇺🇦
Split all Ukraine minerals and riches. Then stop funding or sending arms. Trump will watch Ukraine get slaughtered.
Common sense!
He better not cave to Putin and his little bitch donnie.
"Did you tell Trump putin is afraid of him?
"Yes I did, and now that you're screening this interview, Putin knows too"
He can say that because Trump would be too dumb to get it anyway.
He is kissing his ass because his country really needs it.
Having "peace talks" w/o Ukraine is as stupid as having them w/o Russia, as they did a while ago.
Don't let two idiots determine your future
He made a deal with the Taliban without including the Afghan leadership.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/30/us-generals-say-afghanistan-collapse-rooted-in-trump-taliban-deal
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
FK dtrumpf and putrid’s little behind the scene deals… They have no right to dictate to any sovereign nation.
EU and Ukraine I stand with you.. along with our true Allies…
We are all being sold out by dtrumpf. What a pathetic weak loser kowtowing to putrid
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=kim+wilde+trail+of+destruction&mid=9AD9EC097BAF256E3F5A9AD9EC097BAF256E3F5A&FORM=VIRE
They don’t have to be at the table, they just have to be in Ukraine’s CORNER!
Because honestly, they’ve dine more for Ukraine than we have.
Taken more Ukrainians in, given more support, didn’t drag their feet on voting Yes to Ukraine joining NATO, and so much more.
What I’m saying is they don’t have to be there to be an influence on Zelinskyy or even Trump & Putin.
By then stop giving money, arms, & ammunition says a lot to every Country that they support Ukraine solvency.
Negotiating for Ukraine is a whole other animal…one that has no legitimacy.
As a sovereign country, no other country has any business negotiating on Ukraine’s behalf.
Slava Ukraini! 💙💛🇺🇦💪🏽
Hell, the Republicans ARE NOT even supporting their own Country or the People who elected or EVEN DIDN’T elect them in their OWN STATES!
They represent ALL the People in their States, not just their R voters.
I really wonder what happened to history books.
If that fails, Canada, Europe, S. Korea, Taiwan (& maybe a few others) will lock arms 2continue THEIR aid, P!SSING on Trump the whole time. (He hates that).
Can't say I blame him. Trump will publicly say one thing then do another on behalf of Russia and try and make it appear as if Zelinski welshed on an agreement.
#SlavaUkraïni
Join a feed on Ukraine!
Better To Fight Until Death —Than Live Death!!
Someone else also pointed out the mess drumpf made in Afghanistan by not taking that government into negotiations and let the taliban in .... so ....
The victim said, "I will NEVER accept the decision of the mugger to rob me. NEVER."
Ukraine is lucky to have him.
God help the USA.
Getting rid of the #Felon #orangedecibyte #VPTrump and his ilk one way or another is the only way to restore democracy in the USA.
The US elected a joke
Zelensky is dealing with the "big boys" now and he will lose badly.
If Trump conducts this negotiation he will do the same again, then ask for a peace prize.
In the Trump/Maga simplistic world, peace only means absence of war.
50/50 is tomorrow the 17th!
Chump is stupid and would easily be fooled by Putin, whose KGB training made a liar and manipulator. Putler knows he can twist trump around but european leaders are not so stupid.
We didn’t fail Ukraine. MAGA and Trump did. Biden gave them as much as he could. Also remember Trump told everyone they didn’t need their votes and to stay home. Hummm
Its well past time that any active memory in ram would be unrecoverable.
Unless significant data was stored cold somewhere i dont see a logical path. I would really love for someone to prove me wrong. Like ill stop smoking if so
This is so NOT about you
What we need from citizens of the US now is that you all work at ending this nightmare
Good luck
WHY else would Putin ask for more Soilders from North Korea??? If Europe could ban together, they can Kill Two Birds with one stone, destroy Russia and jail both Putin and zTrump forever
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The US has become a laughing stock, untrustworthy and undependable.
Way to be a good citizen of the world!
They’re greedy sociopaths that evidently don’t care for anyone or anything but themselves.
Having no concern for others or the environment, but only for individual wealth is sick! F*ucking SICK!
They have wealth and influence for several generations. Do f*ucking good!
This guy is a greedy, narcissistic sociopath.
Wake up, AMERICA!
Right now America is the most dangerous and corrupt country on the planet.
WE have had
ENOUGH dictator donny
ENOUGH ELON
WE are done with you
WE have had ENOUGH
WE aren't giving up
WE have simply had ENOUGH
WE are
STANDING UP FOR AMERICA
GET ELON THE HELL OUT
UNPLUG ELON
DEFUND ELON save America Billions in one swoop
25/47
Hisassholiness is fucking nuts
Zelensky is ten times the man trump and musk could ever hope to be.
after all, they still got canada and mexico to help
I AM CANADIAN
He doesn’t even know U.S. history, much less anyone else’s.
#AntiWar
#Peace
#WorldPeace
Get nukes Ukraine.
The USA is treacherous
Another President said: "Yes, sir, anything you want."
We're going to have to invent new words for trump before it's over
who went for a ride on a tiger.
They came back from the ride
with the lady inside
and a smile on the face of the tiger.
I SUPPORT UKRAINE! 🇺🇦
The world needs to isolate them, blockade them, and support Ukraine.
Ukraine deserves to be in NATA and the UN.
US and Russia need to be ejected from these bodies.