Maintenance is due to Minneapolis, originating airport.
There's potential legal action either way, which is reason news anchors being so careful to not say cause.
I'm just saying what we all know about maga, especially if the problem was on our end.
They probably go after Tim Walz too.
Anything to excuse the traitor-in-chief.
Ngl my first thought upon seeing this video (my only experience is seeing air shows) is that it looked like it was coming in too hot 😬 that was definitely a hard landing.
Very hard! But too hard? The flight data recorder will show one way or the other. In gusty winds, it is standard to come in fast and plant it pretty hard: not the time for a "greaser".
Also, if a 40 knot gust goes away, the lift goes away too, so the plane can drop hard.
Pilots practice nice things to say to the passengers:
Welcome to Toronto. To avoid a dog in the runway, we planted the plane firmly on the runway and executed a full roll to the right. On deplaning, please note that you will be walking on the ceiling. Have a great day in Toronto!
I’ve never seen that, not even in a long flight , my Dad family live in south of France and we go three times a year . 🤷🏻♀️ Now maybe more will when we land safely after all the horrible accidents of late.
Never? It’s really nice. We do fairly often on flights I’ve taken, with mostly Canadians. 🇨🇦 Especially long flights, not so much on domestic hops. Relatedly, we all thank the bus driver when getting off the bus, even from the back door.
im no expert, but if you look carefully-when the plane hits the ground something mechanically - on the back left side, seems to have destabilized the aircraft.... it doesn't look like wind. Let's see how this one is spun. the Canadians will be leading the investigation -so we will get truth
Heard on local news, highest wind gust all day was 42mph. Supposedly about 34-37 mph at time of crash. Real feel temp was 0° F. Conditions that should not have affected a normal landing.
It's not winds, it's not windshear, it's a too fast, too hard, no flare landing. It's like this pilot thought he was landing a F16 on a aircraft carrier.
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Yeah. In the video, 5 seconds before landing, it's about 100 feet high—roughly a 1,200 fpm descent. The CRJ-900’s gear is built for 600 fpm, with 720 fpm being severe. At 1,200 fpm, the impact likely exceeded design limits, making gear damage or failure a real risk. That’s a seriously hard landing.
Looks like inaccurate, or inaccurately read altimeter, though you'd expect it to also end up short. Likely pilot error, but curious if it was equipped with the altimeter band pass filter. Hard to see how it would affect just this one instance, and super unlikely, but scary that it's even plausible.
Just saw a different view of it, it looks like they did actually encounter wind sheer. I thought maybe they rotated late and drove the gear in, but it looks like it dropped the last 15 feet or so hard without control input. So maybe just force majeure.
Yes good lord I’m not saying the winds caused the crash I was merely observing that the winds were crazy yesterday. As stated in the CNN article, for those of you who weren’t here to feel them.
Hahaha I hear you. My biggest gripe with Bluesky is if you point out anything that doesn’t fully support the point of “maga is awful”, which it certainly is, people assume you are defending maga and come after you. There’s room for facts too folks.
Not on this thread. The point is … this is what it looked like - fortunately, the Canadian Government in in charge of the investigation- so we SHOULD get the truth
Whate you are implying here is that the Delta pilot involved here wasn't up to the basic standard needed to fly that plane.
There is a level of crosswind considered safe for landing that paticular jet in and the airport reported that crosswind there were well within that limit.
Shit can always hit the fan. The landing gear collapsed. I've flown in a lot of small planes, very experienced guy I fly with came way too close to a "ground loop" on a not so bad day. Really shook him up.
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Was exactly what I thought! Flames shooting from back area of aircraft like it was being dragged before it ever started to flip! Miracle more people were not seriously injured!
not my 1997 Toyota Tacoma. I haven't put a dollar into it beyond fuel and tires. oil change every 5 years, maybe?
dam thing just won't die and my wife won't let me get a new one until mine dies.
Amazing. I knew someone had to have filmed this. Thank God there were no fatalities and no serious injuries. What an ordeal those people went through.
Thanks for posting.
What a miracle anyone lived! I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you can DON'T FLY DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. Or at least, don't fly until they fully staff the air traffic controllers and bring back the safety people. This is madness.
Listing to #CBC this morning I was very moved by the reports of the passengers and crew moving quickly - despite their shock and being upside down in their seatbelts - to free everyone and get everyone outside. No fatalities but some folks are in critical condition. I so hope they all recover.
looks like a gear malfunction rather than mid air collision threat....mechanical issue....how terrifying that had to be for crew & passengers. Quick thinking Delta crew....thanks.
Spare a thought for the pilots. We don't know what happened yet: error in energy management, freak wind, mechanical failure, or whatever. But the guys flying and in charge of that aircraft will surely be questioning themselves about the responsibility for this accident for the rest of their lives.
Too bad it does not show the heroism of the Canadian firefighters who extinguished the flames so quickly that it prevented many injuries and deaths. The angle was too steep causing the hard landing. The pilot should have aborted the landing, powered up and tried another landing.
We all know. The video of passengers literally walking away is testimony to them.
Thank you a thousand times to all Canadians who continue to care and protect.
I kept expecting tens of deaths plus injuries even after seeing the video of the fire trucks putting out the flames on the plane. Almost all people are treated equal here in Canada; even when their government is acting like Nazi economic Terrorists.
100%
It’s surreal to see that plane slam down like that and watch people walking away with their wits about them to the point they can even take out their phones.
It was one of the most hopeful things I’ve seen on my screen in a long time.
Since you've already conducted a full investigation, what was the exact approach angle in Toronto, and what are the accepted angles from the pilot's manual? Or are you just guessing and throwing whatever out there?
Doppler radar might have detected windshear or pilot error or pilot might be drug impaired(the standard drug test will clear or damn them) or lack of maintenance or fake parts or microfractures or... ??
Y'all need to stop playing checkers while MAGA GOP are playing 3-dimensional chess! Get on THEIR PODCASTS & THEIR NEWS NETWORKS to reach a broader audience. Stop preaching to the choir!
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Thanks for posting this. I’ve run into a brick wall trying to encourage Americans to resist. Most just got mad at me for pointing out their capitulation.
Yes but I’m Canadian. This is your fight, I’m just trying to get people to do ANYTHING to save your democracy and I’ve been told nothing. This is exactly what happened in Germany in 1934.
There were 0’plame crashes during the Biden presidency, three in a month under fat Hitler. But at least the trans kids are miserable and that’s what’s important I guess
It looks like the landing gear failed. I mean it was down, but it looks like it collapsed. There’s no reason for that plane to have landed on its belly like that.!
Does it look to anybody else that maybe the right side landing gear broke off?
And the wings detaching was probably the best thing that could have happened?
Yeah, I am hearing that a lot. They came in too fast and the landing gear collapsed. Looks like the missed the centre of the runway, probably because of the wind.
I'm no pilot but I do have a limited knowledge of aviation from studying it personally and the science of aircraft design is fascinating. And the science that goes into keeping an aircraft in the air...it takes a special talent and you really need to know what you are doing.
There was no way that wasn't going to crash in that wind... it happened just like I knew it would. the wind makes one wing touch, it breaks, the plane flips in that direction.
What is it? 8 crashes since trump inaugurated. I wouldn't be flying an American airline in or out of an American airport for a while. Not that I had any intention of doing so.
Fuel tanks must have been nearly empty. Thank goodness.
Looks like a hard and fast landing, possibly causing landing gear failure. Flight data recorder will provide critical information. We’ll all know soon enough.
They land with minimal fuel, not empty, but not a surplus. Usually it's enough for an extra 30 minutes of flight, maybe a bit more, in case they are rerouted to another airport.
That's a good start. There's more: ... or (besides diversion to other airport) in case delay landing at destination airport owing to rerouting or holding, so sometimes very low fuel just at intended airport.
Also: 30 min. day, 45 min. at night.
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Yes, I knew there had to be a regulation on it somewhere, but was trying to juggle some stuff at work this morning. From what I was told years ago, it's ultimately the pilots decision based on taxi time, weather, landing delays, etc.. Thanks for filling in the details!
One reason for that was the FAA regulating that seats were upgraded to ensure they remained in situ under these sort of conditions. Seems like a bad idea to gut the FAA 🤷♂️
Privatize means for profit and when you have situations like that, there are conflicts when it comes to humanity so decisions will be made sure glad I don’t have grandchildren at this point in time.
Lolol. It's pre coffee early morning here, so apologies for not spotting it. I have had folks offended though. Can't live without sarcasm... and coffee. Peace
The aircraft doesn't appear to flare before touchdown. If the runway was snow covered, maybe the pilot misjudged the plane's height at the crucial last few seconds? The undercarriage was therefore impacted and failed. Could be wrong though - the investigation will draw the correct conclusion.
I’m no air traffic controller, but he looks to be coming in way too fast. Smashed the landing gear on impact, then the right wing smashed into the floor/ snow.
So lucky it wasn’t worse for the passengers and crew.
Pearson is a sibling's local airport. They didn't get their weekend out west Thurs because of the exceptional snowstorm that hit Weds pm. Masses of flights were cancelled for days as ❄️ cont. Folks saying they've never seen as much snow in Ontario. Well done emergency crews 👏. Weather related?
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Comparing an E380 to a Bombardier regional is comparing a Porsche to a VW Beetle. They both operate on roads, but their operational characteristics are not very similar.
It will be interesting to see if there is something about how the bombardier jet was designed or built that made it harder to land or safer for passengers in a landing like this.
Looks like the wheel collapsed? maybe beause the plane was leaning towards the right a bit. Also it looks like there was no flare? looks like a pretty hard landing to me. Anyway glad no one died and with the pilots alive as well as the black boxes we'll probably know more in due course.
Looks as if maybe the landing gear may have failed causing the plane to bottom out and the wing to catch the ground and flipping. We will see what the investigation reveals.
The question that needs to be asked “what inspection was done on the plane or not done before the flight”. The snow flying is covering up the back rear right wheels. These are operated by hydraulic fluid pumps.
I always got a laugh when a former navy aircraft carrier pilot lands - they hit harder. I use to ask on a hard landing where the pilot trained 9 out of 10 times they said navy.
Yeah, back when Southwest was Trans Texas they had a lot of convairs...and you could always tell a carrier pilot! But you can't slam a large passenger plane like this expect the gear to hold, there is a limit to the stress they can take.
The landing gears are stress tested with a life span of 20,000 landings for metal fatigue. However, moisture in the hydraulic system can cause failures to deploy in cold weather. The plane was coming from one of the coldest airports.
Yeah so who's to say that when they hit hard like that, that it caused the gear to retract instead of staying down or something broke up in the hydraulics that made them jam up on second impact.
Yeah they were down but the minute they touched down so hard they failed makes me question if hitting so hard broke something in the system to cause failure.
I am just the son of a retired engineer. However, I use to write the stress programs for engineering projects way back when. For a plane crash like this - they will collect all the parts - use Xray to look for fractures and examine the lines and reviews the build notes and maintenance logs.
It looks like to me that indeed the gear on at least one side failed- either due to not being fully locked in position or perhaps there was a lot of resistance from snow on the runway or both. Cold weather is also hard on rubber- can make it more rigid and less able to absorb shock.
I'm thinking the sheer cold may have something to do with it, it's not the first time that landing gear has malfunctioned their have been lots of incidents of them failing even in good weather. I'm curious as to what the investigation finds.
The entire vessel goes through extensive “cold soaking” during the product and testing stages and commissioning near customer acceptance, unlikely cold was a contributing factor. More likely, down and lock indicators may have shown a faulty indicator to crew.
Hmm that could be , but it does not rule out the cold played a part in the malfunctioning of it. I suspect there were alot of failures in the system that made this happen. Because the gear were down you can see that in the video.
Excellent point, if I were an NTSB investigator looking at it and after the preliminary black box analysis and speaking with the crew, I would want to see the hydraulic system data to see how it was functioning
For as bad as it could have been I keep thinking what a perfect landing it ended up being with the wings shearing off and dispersing the fuel held in them. It would have ended up in a fire ball except for that.
Yeah I'm really curious about what they find because it was a really rough hit the first one it could have done damage to the gear right than and there.
Totally agree, planes are fascinating to learn how they are designed. Ideally if the plane stays fully intact after ground contact, great but they seldom do per crash data. A lot depends on the ground surface and obstructions too.
That’s what it looks like. Originally I was thinking it was all crosswinds fault but I actually landed with worse crosswinds than this and on one wheel. 🙃
The right rear landing gear failed the wing hit the ground and then exploded - the other wing is an airfoil but they are going 140MPH so the wing was flying and the F=MA forces turned the plane over - F=MA one of Newton’s laws. Hope this helps.
Really? Does that look like too steep an angle to you?
Apart from right side down slightly it looks like a decent approach. Reports are runway was clear, so it's not easy to see why the plane broke apart and rolled
Guessing the glide path isn't far off 3 degrees, and undercarriage seems to contact just before nose wheel, so maybe not flared enough, but rate of descent (ROD) doesn't look that great. Wonder if landing gear shock absorbers froze in the cold (is that possible?)
No, it’s not what happens at all. It is controlled flight onto a surface. Energy management rolling onto a runway. You can “stall” an inch above the runway, but that’s technique & isn’t necessary; usually you can abort the landing & just keep flying if it looks wrong. Please stop scaring people!
Character limitation error - I apologize for that. Not aimed specifically at you, really more a collective “stop trying to scare people with misleading information” to the group…
Actually, in this case his shit came north. I wonder if any of those FAA workers that were fired over the weekend just happened to be some mechanics in Minneapolis.
would not doubt it! Did you see the letter from an FAA guy who explained they misunderstood how they document new hires (as in they all aren't new) they let new people go I guess or what they thought was new hires
I also forgot to for investigating she says no they were going to the department mention safety inspectors. Also at their website on their jobs listing it seems like there’s a whole lot of openings for safety inspectors. That’s worrisome alone.
Very worrisome! There will certainly be deaths due to all the cutbacks. Virtually every government department that helps keep us safe is being destroyed. Food, medicine, air travel...
FAA certifies them and may employ a few to maintain government aircraft. Commercial carriers employ their own maintenance personnel, either directly or by contractors.
Runway was cleared the snow you see is off the actual runway. They have been doing this for over 100 years in Canada. Looks to me that the plane came in a little too hot, maybe they missed their mark and were a little too far out on the runway and decided to try to stick it. Very Lucky indeed!
Came in hot, didnt flare (slight nose up) bounced (happens when no flare) speed of wind under wing pushed it up on one side whereas wing touched causing a cartwheel.
Would be interesting to hear from professional airline pilots on what could have happened? Everything looked unremarkable right up to the instant it touched the ground? A miracle all safe, thankfully!
Or acting like this job is just an extension of The Real World- the White House .
Fox News hosts, Reality Show stars and drugged up billionaires running the country, what could go wrong?
My thoughts exactly. I'm an old man, who flies with an old woman. She is a retired flight attendant. They are trained to respond in any emergency. She said there was no training for a plane upside down and the emergency exits on top of the cabin. We won't be flying anytime soon...
there are tens of thousands of flights in and out of airports every day I see more people killed in road accidents in the states and in Canada on highways daily! You going to stop driving?
I don't like to drive either but I suppose my choice to fly or not is my personal choice. I don't feel comfortable. You go for it if you do and send me a post card.😉
It’s true that more people die or are injured by cars. It’s just more certain in planes. Not absolutely certain as this shows, but safety measures work (at the moment).
When I drive, and I don't drive much, I avoid interstates, highways, and anywhere the traffic is moving at a rapid pace. I try to drive no faster than I want the collision to be, should I be in an accident. With the increase of unruly passengers, and FAA firings, I won't fly, and drive very little.
My wife worked for Southwest starting in the mid-70's. She still remembers her training backwards and forward. She said there wasn't any procedures specifically for a plane being upside down.
That came in hard. Lost sight of the runway surface or got hit with a down draft at the last second? Thankfully everyone survived. Great work by the flight crew during the evacuation.
It’s almost like DEI actually WAS about hiring the most qualified people, instead of only hiring less qualified straight white dudes because bro culture or whatever. They flipped the DEI narrative backwards and of course the MAGA turds fell for it once again.
It appears the rate of decent was too high and/or the flare was insufficient to arrest that rate of decent, causing a ground impact with enough force to collapse the right undercarriage, which hit first, then the right wing followed.
Did the right hand side undercarriage collapse on landing thus allowing the wing to hit the ground? The continuing lift on the lH wing would have been enough to flip it over.
Yes. The landing was very hard, with the right gear low, which is OK if the crosswind is from the right, although it looks a little lower than typical crosswind correction. The gear probably had quite a bit of side load on it in addition to the hard landing vertical force.
Appears that it was a hard landing 🛬 but they’ll be able to determine is speed was within acceptable range. Also the starboard wing was dipped just before touchdown.
I read it was another pilot waiting to take off. But also this happened at Pearson. Depending on which runway, there are multiple places for people to park and watch takeoffs. Many do and film them.
The same reason any video happens to catch any incident at a specific time. Chance, luck, curiosity, no particular reason, etc. Everyone these days carries a camera and video is omnipresent.
Hard landing there's a difference in warm weather and cold , warm air you get lift extreme cold not so much lift. And speed also has a crucial impact. Just my opinion 🤷
I studied flight years ago. In brief, to land you slowly stop flying by slowing the engine, using flaps to lower the lift, and change the angle of the plane relative to the ground.
They get the nose up (flare) to first touch down on the main gear.
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Wow what an experience to live to tell about 🙀
There's potential legal action either way, which is reason news anchors being so careful to not say cause.
They probably go after Tim Walz too.
Anything to excuse the traitor-in-chief.
At least it happening in Canada, the truth will be revealed, not hidden by Trump's goons.
Also, if a 40 knot gust goes away, the lift goes away too, so the plane can drop hard.
Welcome to Toronto. To avoid a dog in the runway, we planted the plane firmly on the runway and executed a full roll to the right. On deplaning, please note that you will be walking on the ceiling. Have a great day in Toronto!
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Another landing brought to you by Michael Bay...9/10
There is a level of crosswind considered safe for landing that paticular jet in and the airport reported that crosswind there were well within that limit.
It looks like the landing gear collapsed on landing.
dam thing just won't die and my wife won't let me get a new one until mine dies.
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I will wait to pass judgment until NTSB ruling for final determination of crash.
Horrible event. It is amazing and fortunate that no one died! Thank God!
Thanks for posting.
Just a well staffed and well trained crew at Pearson International.
Absolutely amazing they weren't all killed.
And absolutely ridiculous comments.
Shame.
Man. Unreal that everyone survived. Great job pilots, crew and passengers for #heroiceffots in escaping alive.
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Thank you a thousand times to all Canadians who continue to care and protect.
It’s surreal to see that plane slam down like that and watch people walking away with their wits about them to the point they can even take out their phones.
It was one of the most hopeful things I’ve seen on my screen in a long time.
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And the wings detaching was probably the best thing that could have happened?
Man, that would have been so scary!!!! Thank gawd everybody got out!
Thanks! 🙌🏼
Looks like a hard and fast landing, possibly causing landing gear failure. Flight data recorder will provide critical information. We’ll all know soon enough.
Also: 30 min. day, 45 min. at night.
More details:
https://www.code7700.com/fuel_minimums.htm
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Posting this video,
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Thank you to
Airport Emergency crews
Was this a maintenance issue?
3 taken to hospital immediately with reported serious injuries.
After triage and assessment 18 total sent for further care to area hospitals
So lucky it wasn’t worse for the passengers and crew.
If I were a passenger, I would have walked off that plane and buy a lottery ticket, immediately.
Wow!
To those "involved" - I'm glad it wasn't deadly - stay safe.
If I were him I'd never fly again.
It could be because of snow they lost their depth perception.
Immense gratitude to the first responders and crew.
And those attendants got everyone outside and in one piece; they were GOOD!
Grateful there were no casualties!
I was wondering how it could flip.
I’m just SO impressed, and grateful, that everyone survived. Scary ✈️
Astonishing that no one was killed.
Apart from right side down slightly it looks like a decent approach. Reports are runway was clear, so it's not easy to see why the plane broke apart and rolled
It will be interesting to hear final report.
Thankfully no fatalities - miraculous
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We were lucky this time.
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Pilot didn’t flare !
Fox News hosts, Reality Show stars and drugged up billionaires running the country, what could go wrong?
“Burn it down!”
Your thoughts and prayers were answered, so reap what you’ve sown.
Picture doesn't tell the story of the winds or microburst which likley caused the hard landing.
She hit hard on the keel (where the rear landing gear is located) and right wing collapse/momentum flipped her over.
Amazing people walked away from that one.
Don't turn this into some conspiracy theory.
It's a frikkin' MIRACLE anyone survived. WOW
I studied flight years ago. In brief, to land you slowly stop flying by slowing the engine, using flaps to lower the lift, and change the angle of the plane relative to the ground.
They get the nose up (flare) to first touch down on the main gear.
I thought it was a wind gust that gave too much lift to a wing that caused it to flip