What service is it that churches perform? Oh yeah "protecting your immortal soul" for a small donation to the church. Sounds like a protection racket to me.
Versus Jimmy Swaggart, Ernest Ainsley, the Catholic Church for protecting child molesters. Yeah I would say take all the superstitions and throw them into the sun. Then take all those funds they steal and put them to good use. Live long and prosper.
No we don't. The majority of addiction support groups are hosted at local churches. In fact, it comes at an expense to them through simple facility operation costs.
Churches should be taxed and contributions to the community tax deductible. Small churches providing these services would not pay tax; mega churches with millionaire pastors would need to either pay taxes or practice what they preach.
Joel Osteen literally locked the doors to Lakewood when Houston was flooding a few years ago and his own community needed a safe place to shelter and food.
Better to handle that through tax free grant programs, based on their good works. To get those grants the church can't have a fleet of jets and pay their leaders 7+ figure salaries and expense accounts. Means testing.
For every one of those mega churches you are describing there are thousands of small community churches that operate on non existent margins and provide services free of charge to the community. It’s cruel to try to take away that support out of some misguided sense of revenge. Do better
HAD a brother that went thru drug treatment (after stealing thousands from me). Says he is a good church goer now. (Still a con). Aunt got hooked into Evangelicals, what a crock. Always had to hold my tongue. No more. Religion is a scam to control the weak minded.
I do not support shuttering small community churches. I am saying that megachurches should have a high bar for maintaining tax exempt status. And any church paying hush money to protect child molesting clergy should lose it, too.
We are all with you but were in America where a felon can incite an insurrection and commit 34 felonies and get elected President. Im losing hope in this fkg country.
Fuck, yes. Fuck this shit with these goddamn churches racking all this money and having fancy cars and other things when they try to say oh God is good to me blah blah blah but when somebody else is in need, many of them start by saying, let’s pray on it. Praying is not gonna fucking help nothing.
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Absolutely, and their properties should be taxed at the HIGHEST rate for their counties, NOT at a fraction of a typical residential property, as is commonly done now.
Did the fascist regime start following logic and reason? Because they declared themselves a monarchy already, I wouldn't hold your breath- as much as I agree with you.
It shouldn't exist at all, so good for the ACLU. But they're trying to make it a public school. Public schools are considered part of local government and are exempt from federal income taxes under Section 115(2) of the Internal Revenue Code. So let's hope this one gets shot down.
From what I’ve read, SCROTUS is highly likely to green light this BS under their redefined “religious freedom.” Probably 6-3 or 5-4 (with Roberts taking his turn to side with the liberal justices).
I just heard that ACB recused herself, so if Roberts does the right thing here, it’ll be 4-4 and when SCROTUS ties a vote, the lower court ruling stands (which, in this case, means NO, a state can’t fund a religious school). So, 🤞🤞🤞 Roberts re-reads the First Amendment before ruling.
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Of course churches should NOT be tax exempt. They are a money making organization. Private universities like Harvard should NOT be tax exempt either. ( Honestly I had no idea they were until recently.) They both sell a "product" for profit. In our society that means you're supposed to pay taxes.
Especially considering many (for profit exploitive and objectively anti-Christian) churches have not only campaigns for the right, they pray for Trump, and some believe he’s the actually second coming. What a great way to take over the government. Start in the church. No politics or not exempt!
All for that. The chuches I personally was made to attend by my parents didn’t make any money at all to be taxed on - they usually ran on a deficit- but that’s certainly not true of mega-churches. Huge profits should be taxed.
Churches should be taxed since there is a separation of Church & State within a Democracy.
It is Universities that should be tax exempted since they add to the long term value of a Society by providing well educated members of Society that advance the Society both materially & its knowledge base.
Public hospitals originated from Christian churches so it made sense to relieve their tax burden initially. So much has changed though, that this is one small piece of only some churches, not even all. The whole structure needs to be rebuilt. We shouldn’t be subsidizing mansions for mega church CEOs
They are praying already in the public schools.we had honors nite and they started with prayer and half of the teachers brought up god.
They are going to pray away mass shootings at schools
Tax exemption is an empty threat@! Ivy leagues are big enough to be able to employ smart accountants so they pay no tax anyway, just like the other billionaires and Trump.
IMO, it shouldn't be of one then the other. Churches should have lost that status decades ago. They have actively injected themselves and are the true indoctrinators.
THIS! A lot of churches (the ones who are actually Christian) do a lot in their communities to fill in the gaps left by local, state, and federal programs. If they had to pay taxes, it would absolutely hinder their ability to aid the poor.
How about we keep the system we have, but be better about enforcing what it takes to be a non-profit. Oh wait, we can't because the IRS has been gutted.
americans are just so fucking stupid when it comes to education .. they see it as something terrible when it's actually the thing that really drives your country forward ... honestly america really does deserve it's shit reputation around the world.
Removing the churches tax exempt status will give them a "no taxation without representation" argument and this SCOTUS will agree. We don't want evangelical lobbyists. I understand the argument, but this is actually a very bad idea. They already have excellent accountants, you won't get much tax.
all this would do rn is hurt local churches as most big churches can just hire tax lawyers (if they don't already have a team of them) and continue not to pay taxes
I'm not for removing it from educational institutions but houses of worship shouldn't be tax-exempt, they should be treated like citizens & get credit for money used for tax-exempt charity work. Education/training should be gov't subsidized so it's accessible to all AS THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE US GREAT.
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If he takes it (he can't...but let's play along)...if he takes it from one higher educational institution, he has to take it from all. Or he would have to prove that somehow Harvard is a for-profit institution and thereby ineligible.
💯 agree....but no DEM would ever make such a move, ad it would offend someone, somewhere.... so they'll just leave things as they are and hope for the best. One thing I will say, Trump gets things done and like it or not, ya gotta respect that
Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Francisco Franco, Nicolae Ceaușescu, Kim Il-sung, Augusto Pinochet, Suharto, Jorge Ubico and Manuel Estrada Cabrerai all got things done too.
Not a shred of respect. Getting things done alone is not a measure of success.
The same people who won’t accept $6.66 in change and noted Obama’s names all had six letters aren’t conspiratorial about a group that is every of their definitions of evil? Their definition of the anti-Christ? Their teachings say he will fool them- so if the believe it they won’t.
Tax-exempt status for churches is one of the stupidest things ever. That's how you get evangelical mega churches and the "prosperity gospel." Kenneth Copeland doesn't need 3 fucking jets...
I know im the asshole, but why shouldn’t they have to pay taxes? Seems like a institution worth billions should be paying taxes. Along with churches and political organizations.
Actually the legal challenges here, should Trump succeed, might establish a pathway for a whole slew of entities losing tax exempt status. MAGA is opening a can of worms it may not like.
Been saying this for over a decade they want to be exempt they should have to house homeless and feed them show the receipts where you’re giving back to the community and not putting them in your pockets. Otherwise pay your fair share you’re just a grifter using religion as a front.
Always thought of them as Insurance Companies. You pay Car insurance, in case you get into an accident
House, in case you have a disaster. Now, Pet...Religion insurance, in case there is an afterlife.
I felt like I wrote this when I read your post. They are not supposed to be very political either. For that they should lose their tax exempt along with how much money is actually being put in their bank accounts. Didn’t know a preacher needed to live in a mansion/expensive car/private jet
After Osteen closed the church doors to people during a hurricane, I guarantee there is people still that are attending his church & giving donations. I can see how Trump got elected. Ignorance and fear.
Absofuckinglutely! Especially money grubbing televangelist frauds e.g., Osteen, Swaggert, Graham, Benny Hinn, and fucking Paula White. These people live in multi-million dollar mansions, have their own private jets, etc. They're all sleazy carnival barkers.
Not the right argument. He doesn't have legal authority to take away Harvard's tax exempt status. I wish media would stop reporting his idiocies before saying "even though he has no legal authority to do this, Orange Man signed an executive order saying..." This will be in litigation.
Well, they don't, obviously. And the courts are so slow that damage is done before the cases are heard. But other than demonstrators, the courts are one of the few bastions against the lawlessness and rapid-fire chaos.
Some churches certainly are. Others are ministering to the sick, the poor, and the lonely. Should those churches, many of them barely surviving, be punished for the actions of some?
Tax The Churches
Tax The Rich -
and the majority of our problems can go away, money to feed the poor, money to house our elderly, money to take care of our earth, money for healthcare, money to educate our youth etc...we have to stop the greed that is destroying us and our earth -
Well, not from MY denomination because Trump's already attacked IT and his evangelical "pastor" buddies were salivating at the thought of getting hold of its properties.
Agree but the alt right extremists, who call themselves Christians, would never stand for that. They want tax payers to pay for Christian Charter schools which "should" be against the law.
Most especially from the "Church" of Scientology. I still can't figure out how people follow a NUCKING FUTS guy like L. Ron Hubbard. Miscavage has a serious Napoleonic Complex. And MAGA? Well that's just Trailer Park Scientology 👀
Here's a story for you. The HS in NJ Tom Cruise graduated from 1/2
2/2 had a Scandal where members of either the Football Team or the Wrestling Team Gang Raped a Developmentally Delayed female student. And if memory serves me correctly, they basically got slaps on the wrist. If I'm wrong let us know what those entitled little fuckers got.
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
Repeal 501(c)3. Entirely.
Just because the crazy-man said Harvard should pay their freakin' taxes doesn't make it a crazy thing to say.
All of them.
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A university is very different from a worship organization of a financial organization (think credit unions), etc.
However non-profit tax exemptions should be removed from for-profit churches.
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TAX ALL THE CHURCHES FIR REAL!!!
will this be tax exempt?
It is Universities that should be tax exempted since they add to the long term value of a Society by providing well educated members of Society that advance the Society both materially & its knowledge base.
They are going to pray away mass shootings at schools
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Not a shred of respect. Getting things done alone is not a measure of success.
…and fossil fuels should never have taxpayer subsidies!
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The cult followers are even sicker...
Congress makes laws that all institutions have to follow and Harrrrrvard followed them perfectly
Schools should never be taxed
Churches should always be taxed
This is WAY OVERDUE!!!
Do you know how much we have in the bank at the end of the year after doing what we do? $1,000~
Leave us out of this stupid bullying by him and now you.
Who are political organizations and pushing project 2025
House, in case you have a disaster. Now, Pet...Religion insurance, in case there is an afterlife.
Now, ask me how I really feel...
Refreshing to have a cordial reaction to such on the internet
They are political arm of religion, and in the US, propaganda machine for MAGA cult.
Tax The Rich -
and the majority of our problems can go away, money to feed the poor, money to house our elderly, money to take care of our earth, money for healthcare, money to educate our youth etc...we have to stop the greed that is destroying us and our earth -
That's religion mixing with politics
Here's a story for you. The HS in NJ Tom Cruise graduated from 1/2