Programmers! If you want to hear me get way into the weeds of how ATProto works, this is the podcast for you! - ThreadSky

pfrazee.com • 38 days ago

Programmers! If you want to hear me get way into the weeds of how ATProto works, this is the podcast for you!

Hi bluesky! If you're curious about the technical details of how this place works I think you'll enjoy my chat with @pfrazee.com!

www.softwaresessions.com/episodes/atp...

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salborz.com•38 days ago

Bookmarked! Thanks

jbminn.bsky.social•38 days ago

do you cover the JERRY NO feed

servingkaos.com•38 days ago

Thanks for sharing.

44scoot30m.bsky.social•38 days ago

Kkkkchhccchhhh got it
Over

nick.scialli.me•37 days ago

This was really great even for non-protocol nerds. As an aside, you talked about strong identity signals like .gov domains and have been working on an account and website that leverages those: @us.govsky.org and https://www.govsky.org. Being able to catalogue and share gov presence just by handle

nick.scialli.me•37 days ago

is incredibly valuable. Also due to the hierarchical nature of government organizations, subdomain structure ends up being super interesting and informative

mr-gm.bsky.social•38 days ago

You had my attention up to the word "podcast," I don't do podcasts.

willem.dobs.nl•38 days ago

So read the transcript

risi.co•38 days ago

That is a very good listen that explains the protocol design and decisions in a concise way, thank you!

Are you guys hiring? 🙌

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

We are! https://bsky.social/about/join and more postings on the way

risi.co•38 days ago

Hah, actually the Go BE is right up my alley, 100% what’s in there and some.

But I am in Europe and not sure if my wife would let me work PST hours again. 😅

How much of overlap is needed? Currently I am working at around 30-40% but with EST.

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

for that role unfortunately we need a lot of overlap

risi.co•38 days ago

Understandable yeah. I’ll keep an eye on future postings.

rozepop.bsky.social•38 days ago

Slay! It's super interesting to me bc it's confusing to me. But I'm building an app with a friend for portfolio projects, and we were thinking of putting in a social aspect of the app, and maybe using atproto for the social side.

staltz.com•38 days ago

What's a grammer? And what's a professional one?

harmsen.net•38 days ago

There is no free speech, responsibility or dignity at somebody else's domain. That fact explains why the archaic social medias where everything is at their domain and you only get a subservient identifier (ie you can not own yourself) all inevitably turn into hellish autocratic dumpster fires.

harmsen.net•38 days ago

I was struck at how using our own domains was a kind of afterthought rather than central. Our domains are legally owned by us, that's their purpose - it is how we own ourselves online inasmuch as we use deeds to own our houses. It is the main central thing that makes Bluesky better.

harmsen.net•38 days ago

The terms "primary identifier" and "secondary identifier" don't do the concept justice. To speak plainly "master identifier" and "slave identifier" would be more appropriate. It is a technical distinction, but the political implications of that distinction are gargantuan.

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

First two? minutes: a practiced high level description

Literally everything after: the protocol design just spilling out of my brain

nick.scialli.me•38 days ago

At what point do you start ranting about the importance of shoe hats

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

in a way, that's what it's all about

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

Honestly I recommend this podcast for the protocol nerds who know atproto pretty well. I'm relistening now and I explain a lot of design decisions

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

like a moth to the flame, me to the quotidian details

tauheed-elahee.ca•38 days ago

📌

liminal67.bsky.social•38 days ago

You do nerdcute really well.

dahoovster.bsky.social•38 days ago

“Hey, this guy makes some pretty good points!”, Paul, listening to Frazee

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

I should hire him

timomajere.bsky.social•38 days ago

Man, I remember starting computers in school back when we still were making animated pictures with ascII symbols using the LIne print system for full page spreads then try and animate them.
Stopped Modding in 2004 with Starsiege Tribes mods.

That stuff there makes ME feel like a caveman programmer.

shack95.bsky.social•38 days ago

I came in at the C64 entering codes from a grocery store bought magazine era.

summerlee.xyz•38 days ago

Even as someone who’s super ignorant to the protocol and engineering this podcast really helped me understand it in a different way than the document does 😅

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

I'm so glad!

cameron.bsky.social•36 days ago

After having this site teach me what a Merkle tree and DID was listening to this was such a nice high level overview focusing on the “why” and how yall envision the whole thing working together. Hope you get a chance to so more like this.

summerlee.xyz•38 days ago

This is what I needed to read (yes reading the transcript instead heh) instead of the documentation to first wrap my head around it, reading it as free thought flowing from your speech made it so much easier to understand the concepts, thank you Paul! ☺️

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

awesome!

jeremyjung.com•38 days ago

Thanks for sharing that you read the transcript! It's a fair amount of work to make so it's great to hear that it was helpful!

summerlee.xyz•38 days ago

I love the fact that folks can even edit and correct them via GitHub 👌

yaypineapple.bsky.social•38 days ago

🧠💦

paulocandido.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

klaraa.bsky.social•38 days ago

✌🏿

nicolas.malen.fr•38 days ago

📌

tpo-asd.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

johnfallot.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

manurodrigues.bsky.social•38 days ago

Can you tell us about flashes?

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

Flashes is being built by somebody outside of Bluesky! The press didn't totally capture that

It's an app that uses the Bluesky network, built by somebody else

manurodrigues.bsky.social•38 days ago

Paul, i think you should do something for us who are fed up with instagram, bring back the simplicity of posting a photo

manurodrigues.bsky.social•38 days ago

But will it be safe?

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

I hope so! I believe they'll be piggy-backing off our moderation

sarahp.bsky.social•38 days ago

it's a third-party bluesky client app...I think I explained it just fine :)

o.simardcasanova.net•38 days ago

You did, your coverage of decentralized social platforms is always top-notch!

sarahp.bsky.social•38 days ago

thanks!

frajo.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

luanagm.bsky.social•38 days ago

@lumamontes.bsky.social

felix91gr.bsky.social•38 days ago

Hell yeah!

bikeengineer.bsky.social•38 days ago

Me using ATProto with no idea how it works but a desire to learn about it

bikeengineer.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

sabreuse.bsky.social•38 days ago

I hate it that this made me reaaaaalllllly want to click like right now

paix120.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

luciacerchie.bsky.social•38 days ago

Read the arxiv paper twice I’m so excited for this

wudang96.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

crucialwax.com•38 days ago

I’m very interested, but I need you to break it down into crayons.

cameron.bsky.social•38 days ago

cmcalgary.bsky.social•38 days ago

If I'm not a programmer do I have to do anything

tclassicx.bsky.social•38 days ago

@imlunahey.com thought you might enjoy this.

pretefunkera.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

hellopeter.dev•38 days ago

Is this available on Apple Podcasts?

If so, I'll listen asap

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paul-frazee-on-bluesky-and-the-at-protocol/id120906714?i=1000684142737

hellopeter.dev•38 days ago

Trying routing too it but ran into an error when choosing the Apple Podcasts

jeremyjung.com•38 days ago

Sorry, the link was broken! This should work: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/software-sessions/id1479514262

hellopeter.dev•38 days ago

Listening to it right now!

mrpickles.co.za•38 days ago

11M registered users 🤔 I take it not recorded recently.

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

Nope!

mathworkswonders.bsky.social•38 days ago

First thank you Paul and all those that support! And open web like this just might turn the tide!

Next I’m going to ask a dumb question. Often when I see a Bluesky post and want to reply I’ll go to my browser or photos to locate content. Then when I return, the feed has moved on…

mathworkswonders.bsky.social•38 days ago

Is that a PEBKAC problem? Am I being dumb? Is there a way to backtrack?

More importantly, that has nothing to do with the ATS protocol correct? A protocol is just a white paper.

So if that behavior were a bug/feature then that would be on the Blue Sky implementation of the protocol?

mathworkswonders.bsky.social•38 days ago

I used to do network programming in C in a past life before becoming a teacher. I do miss the levels of abstraction and conceptual topologies! 🤓

shack95.bsky.social•38 days ago

📌

justinm.one•38 days ago

Thanks for sharing! I've been digging into AT for the past few months, and I have to say this is probably the best engineering I've ever seen.

pfrazee.com•38 days ago

oh wow, that's so kind of you! thank you!

scottkirvan.com•38 days ago

Good pod

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