stop giving a shit how much movies cost unless you like, funded the movie with your own money. who cares. they'll make the money back they're big dumb companies
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Im gonna be as honest as I can online but I’m not sure why it matters for the viewer to know how much money a movie makes back unless it one theyre passionate about.
As long as movies like Anora and The Brutalist cost $6-$10 million while movies like The Electric State and Ant Man Quantumania cost $350 million and above, I'm gonna continue giving them shit.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes was only around 100.000$. People still talk about and like the movie to this day nearly 5 decades later.
Can't be said for most 100+ mil Hollywood films which usually already are forgotten just 2 years later.
Also, actors, directors etc get paid big bucks just for making the movie. The royalties they get from streaming services are almost nothing. Get a VPN and start pirating shit cause fuck all these corporations. (Not talking about independant film makers. They can have all my money)
100%... when I see people crying about movie budgets and actor's salaries, I just assume they don't have any real problems and are too self-important to actually enjoy anything.
Fair enough, even though it still doesn't matter. It's not like we get kickbacks. Either way, most of the whining I see is on articles about movies that are far enough along in development that they have a budget but don't even have a trailer yet.
Well if you’re going to the theater to watch then it is funded with your money.
The problem with movie studios isn’t that they’re unwilling to take a chance on a movie that loses money, it’s that they’re unwilling to take a chance on a movie that only makes millions instead of billions
Movies are created on spreadsheets now. That’s the irritating thing. They don’t take risks and projects don’t get green lit unless a confirmed profit is to be made.
I'd say this is pretty true for me too, and I'm actually an MCU fan for the most part. A decade ago or so ago big budget blockbuster type movies were the movies I'd want to pay to see because they were such events and they were a better experience in the theater. Now though?
The vast majority of these movies have so much money poured into them and still look like shit, so if anything they look better watched on a smaller screen at home. And there are so many of these movies trying to be the same thing, so there's nothing special about most of them that makes me
excited to see them in the theater. These days I'm only going to see something like an MCU movie in the theater is someone else is paying. If I'm paying, I'd rather spend the very rare visit I'm able to have to the movie theater on something interesting and at least somewhat unique.
Of course studios have always wanted to make a profit but now projects need actors with millions of followers, built in IPs for marketing or they're not getting backed. Last year the top 10 at the box office were all sequels/franchises. 10 years before that 1/2 were, 30 years ago none were.
Customers are customers, they’re not partners or investors. Producers fund the movie. Customers can pay to go or not, but the movie’s already been funded and made by then.
As soon as the movie is released the people most impacted by not watching it are executives. All the techs, assistants, grips, etc. have already gotten paid. Boycott the hell out of any premiers. Half that crap goes immediately to streaming regardless.
I think this sort of phenomenon has invaded all cultural discourse. In sports, fans have become amateur GMs. In books, music, and movies, everyone cares about profitability for some reason. It's part of the cancer that is a completely neoliberal/market-based way of looking at the world
But at least in sports, there's (usually) a salary cap or some other means to punish teams for spending too much. Hollywood doesn't have a cap and a lot of that money goes into the pockets of film industry workers
That wasn't my point. I was agreeing with David I think saying that fans take on the ownership point of view. Owners can spend more in sports too for the most part but they cheap out and fans get mad at players for being greedy when it's billionaires
I have good friends that have careers behind the scenes on movies/TV. They aren't rich by any means. Steady film jobs keep food on the table for them. They had to take gig-economy jobs during the recent strikes. I fully support Hollywood keeping the money machine rolling
Not only are you correct, but it gets even wackier.
Most Fortune 500 companies aren't even "profitable"
in the liquidity sense. It's better to be "down" in terms of deductible expenses, gain assets, and pay no taxes
than it is to Make Money and have to Pay People.
There was a line in Aaron Sorkin’s Studio 60 related to this. Something like “Why are box office numbers in the arts section of the newspaper and not the business section?”
Telling people to not care about something that you don't care about is one of the most low energy things you can do tbh
Stop caring about the 400 million dollars Disney shit into the newest slop film that could change the trajectory of homelessness and the hungry of an entire nation overnight
the more dorks on these websites yell at studios for spending money on interesting movies, the more scared execs will be to do it. so shut the fuck up. go outside and read a poem the weather's nice
But according to @davidlsims.bsky.social it doesn’t matter how much money it costs and how bad the writing is!!!! Are you telling me this is an emotional shitpost?????
😂😂😂😂😂😂 my other favorite. The fact that Kennedy gets praise for this when if any man had produced this he would get literally crucified is prove sexism is alive and well lmao
Watching Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes wishing I had gone to see it on a big screen. movies will never die they're going to change a great deal but the big screen experience will never go away.. worth every penny to me
I'm fortunate to have a great small theater showing great indies and if enough people in the community request it, they'll show the classics. We've had summer series that show the greats.
I'll get my Town Credit they do a little free show down in the park on a big outside screen sometimes and they show some pretty cool movies much more mainstream but still it's an effort we had a balcony in our theater if you know what I mean
Except studios are spending absurd amounts to make movies that then flop, and they retreat into remakes and sequels. Highly suggest you educate yourself on this, Friendly Space Ninja made a great video on YouTube about how movies have been flopping because of astronomical budgets
There's been so many movies that make their money after the proper release and I think it's unfair your movie can sell a million dvds and get called a flop anyway
Copying a file infinitely does nothing to reduce the integrity of that file. Yaharr is only theft if those who made the thing didn't get paid, and all the people who actually worked on the thing got paid already.
While this is the correct take 90% of the time, the outliers on either extreme (Baker trying to do Anora with non-union crew and throwing a fit when IATSE stepped in; whatever money laundering process Disney has going with Marvel budgets) are worth mentioning from a macro perspective
Idc about wealthy execs making or losing money, I care about those execs losing money and then deciding to stop funding works that I enjoy because of it
Actually, companies bloat their actual numbers of costs in order to pay the employees who made the movie less if not nothing at all. So it is a very important discussion if you're anti company (or anti bad practices) so this post looks very funny.
And in the very rare chance they don’t make the money back, we get to laugh at them for whatever out of touch decisions they made. It’s a win no matter what. Spend baby spend
Personally, I'm still going to bring up budgets when it's a giant studio pissing away hundreds of millions of dollars on a movie that's boring and looks like shit, especially when it's also an unwanted and unneeded sequel/remake where the original was better in every way at a fraction of the cost.
Sort of. From what I've heard, official budget numbers don't include marketing, but a common heuristic is that the marketing budget tends to be roughly equivalent to the entire production budget, so a movie's box office usually has to at least double its budget before it's considered profitable.
Of course, a movie doesn't have to be profitable to be good (Shawshank Redemption is a classic example), but when I'm personally bullying a flop over its budget, I'm aiming at things like the mass-produced slop that spends $400 million to remake/sequelize an older classic, but boring and ugly.
This. Over the past several years major studios have been throwing so much money at their hopes for their blockbuster hits, and so many of those movie end up looking terrible, having terrible writing, and being cut up and scrapped back together in post. They're spending more money to make worse
movies, and then they go on to throw even more money at more of the same because they're scared to spend money on stuff that isn't pre-existing IP. It's also not sustainable. They're spending so much money on some of these movies that it makes it difficult for these movies to actually make money.
I don't think there are many people crying over how much these movies cost because we're worried about whether or not the huge company can make their money back. The concern is for the art and the medium, not the companies.
This ^ Scripts designed by the accounting department. No one's losing $$. The movie might not show a profit, but the latest POS will drive someone to see the original and support the sales of toys and other branded merch.
I care about how much money movies make because depending on what it is, the company will likely make more or less of that kind of movie based on how much it made
Care a little bit because it is often your own money!
Taxpayer money is used to provide subsidies and credits to studios and they are wildly intransparent. Taxpayers usually lose money here and don't even know.
It doesnt even work like how they think it does. They have accountants that know how to make money on flops... flops are actually part of the strategy bc they offset blockbusters for tax purposes.
Hmm. Then how are execs living in multimillion$ mansions? How are the studios paying their bills? Could it be accounting slight of hand? Little guys aren't making money, but the big guys? They'd stop making movies if they were truly losing money.
I love the fact Flow cost €3.5M and won an Oscar for Animated Feature up against other films that cost considerably more but were still value for money. I loved Vengeance Most Fowl which it beat and I've seen the trailers so I can't wait to see Flow which is out here in the UK from 21 March.
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Can't be said for most 100+ mil Hollywood films which usually already are forgotten just 2 years later.
The problem with movie studios isn’t that they’re unwilling to take a chance on a movie that loses money, it’s that they’re unwilling to take a chance on a movie that only makes millions instead of billions
If you like them, you'll see/eat them again. If you don't, then you don't pay to see/eat them again.
Fund Indigenous film makers globally and watch this shit right itself in less than a decade
Most Fortune 500 companies aren't even "profitable"
in the liquidity sense. It's better to be "down" in terms of deductible expenses, gain assets, and pay no taxes
than it is to Make Money and have to Pay People.
Stop caring about the 400 million dollars Disney shit into the newest slop film that could change the trajectory of homelessness and the hungry of an entire nation overnight
Star Trek: Picard was so bad that Paramount was bought out a year later.
and X-Men: Apocalypse,
that they were bought out by Disney.
ticket sales matter.
Oh. This game I like didn't meat quarterly sales projections? Oh nooooooo.
Not after 2022
can build a better world where no
Orphans and street kids are ignored or
left behind.
Taxpayer money is used to provide subsidies and credits to studios and they are wildly intransparent. Taxpayers usually lose money here and don't even know.
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