One that seems most likely scares me the most: Shitler either dies or gets 25th ammendmented out, leaving ol' couch-fucker in charge. He's young, smarter that shitler, and focused more on the agenda than on his own ego. He's the one that Thiel and Musk really wanted to elevate
He also is a true believer in some really fucked-up ideas that even Shitler stays away from. And I think he's likelier to "keep the country together" through cruelty, violence, oppression. Some empires took centuries to actually fall, we could see a pattern like that.
Basically, involves a lot of trump hollow victories (tariffs, trade war etc.) which hurt but don’t cripple the country, and he feeds his ego enough to not feel like he has to strongman more ambitious goals.
Republican coalition falls apart during 2028 Vance while traditional Dem party splinters
That’s the big unknown. Could blow up the whole economy right there, not to mention the incredible loss of life.
Outside chance a vaccine developer gets bought by Elon and rebrands as anti-woke pharma and Trump picks up the cost on a euro-style tender. Not joking, watch this as a scenario.
We get a fractional multi-party government in 2032, just in time for global sea levels to rise by a foot and a half, and US economy slips to 3rd in the world.
I've said balkanization was on the table for a couple years now, but I'm beginning to question it a bit more. It also seems likely the states roll over entirely - Maybe 50/50?
Honestly, no. E-lawn did a GD salute behind the podium & people are not only defending him but supporting it. That's a fundamental difference in moral character that doesn't just go away.
I am, however, happy to see headlines about communities throwing canned vegetables at patriot parades.
there's a fairly realistic one - Trump gets the #HamburgerFromHeaven; the remaining MAGA folks like Vance don't have the charisma, chops nor insanity to capture the unwashed masses' imaginations like DJT and the movement dies like the Tea Party & Reform Party before.
True, but Reagan was charismatic. George H. W. Bush wasn't. Ross Perot captured a lot of imaginations; ain't no way Der Couchficker Vance could get people to take to the streets and storm the Capitol. Trump succeeded because he got the disaffected rural vote twice. Not getting it a 3rd.
Maybe if alien overlords take over?? That’s my standard answer, because I want to go to outer space.
Also I do recommend the Oscar nominated short film “A Lien”. A high school classmate from Duluth MN is in it :)
But yeah aliens take and then we can have interstellar travel??
To destroy oligarchs
That's the thing: most of these Republican congressmen are happy to abrogate their own powers. Considering that most of them ran on a "wreck government" platform, it's not surprising. Thing is, they're not even a rubber stamp, just happy nonentities.
We all just do what the godking says. No ‘resistance’ no sabotage, just get in the line and it’ll all be fine. And, if you do everything right, one day you’ll be rich and get to be in charge of people, too. It’s that simple. America won’t break apart if the left just stops fighting, ugh 🙄
(Seriously though, always fighting, in-fighting out-fighting, pointing out flaws. Just stop pointing out the wrong stuff and magically everything will be better. When the men come goosstepping through the town you get in the back of the formation and good step, too. It’s cardio)
There will be serious balkanization, and the ensuing migrant crisis of people fleeing to more ideologically-aligned nation-states will only exacerbate the current international migration crisis. Then the resource wars start. Gonna be great.
Best case scenario the world comes together, takes us over and breaks the continental US into four different countries. Hawaii gets its independence and Alaska goes to Canada.
I have a lot of scenarios where this just keeps happening for decades and more and more folks become complicit out of fear, disenfranchisement, and/or lack of moral strength. And that's a lot scarier.
Well by then our financial system will be replaced with Doge Coin and Bezos Bucks for redemption at your nearest Amazon Essentials Distribution Center. But only after you pay a protection-- I mean, subscription fee.
With Lex Luthor running wild we all seem to be hanging out waiting for Superman, or Jesus, or the aliens or something. They're not coming! Except for Luigi rising up the occasion, the rest of us are just going to work like things are normal while our government fails. Crazy.
Do you see balkanization as likely or inevitable? I have wondered if we're too beholden to imperialist interest to let dissolution of the federal gov happen
I think we have maybe a year, tops, for either Trump to die or get killed, or for some Democrat to finally grow some balls (lmao not gonna happen) or else this all leads to violence.
the thing is that Trump is honestly one of the things keeping it in check
as long as democrats can tell themselves no, really, the Republicans aren't ~really~ like this they can pretend it'll all go back to how it was some day
Maybe it'll go the Roman Empire route.
Something like this:
1) Move the capitol from DC to Phoenix
2) Most of the US is invaded, but not the shitty parts
3) Become even more religious, do a crusade or two. Fail, but don't admit it.
4) Rename what's left "Chicken" or "Bürger"
5) Stay angry forever.
if you want one of them, it's the slow lame slide into a dictatorship nobody's really willing to fight about
a couple such cases out there; when democracy has totally failed and the dictator's not utterly incompetent they can struggle on for a couple of decades with manageable degrees of collapse
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Republican coalition falls apart during 2028 Vance while traditional Dem party splinters
Outside chance a vaccine developer gets bought by Elon and rebrands as anti-woke pharma and Trump picks up the cost on a euro-style tender. Not joking, watch this as a scenario.
It’s not *good* but avoids civil war. Odds +1600
I mean that would be terrible, of course, but it could be unifying
Can't decide which one I'm rooting for.
I am, however, happy to see headlines about communities throwing canned vegetables at patriot parades.
Also I do recommend the Oscar nominated short film “A Lien”. A high school classmate from Duluth MN is in it :)
But yeah aliens take and then we can have interstellar travel??
To destroy oligarchs
I have a lot of scenarios where this just keeps happening for decades and more and more folks become complicit out of fear, disenfranchisement, and/or lack of moral strength. And that's a lot scarier.
as long as democrats can tell themselves no, really, the Republicans aren't ~really~ like this they can pretend it'll all go back to how it was some day
Something like this:
1) Move the capitol from DC to Phoenix
2) Most of the US is invaded, but not the shitty parts
3) Become even more religious, do a crusade or two. Fail, but don't admit it.
4) Rename what's left "Chicken" or "Bürger"
5) Stay angry forever.
a couple such cases out there; when democracy has totally failed and the dictator's not utterly incompetent they can struggle on for a couple of decades with manageable degrees of collapse
https://www.historians.org/sixteen-months/can-a-state-constitutionally-secede/