We should 100% make a bigger louder deal of games that release complete, with few bugs, and without micro-transactions. If good examples of this aren’t elevated in gaming communities and in the media, what lessons do you suppose publishers learn? - ThreadSky

corinnebusche.bsky.social • 52 days ago

We should 100% make a bigger louder deal of games that release complete, with few bugs, and without micro-transactions.

If good examples of this aren’t elevated in gaming communities and in the media, what lessons do you suppose publishers learn?

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chodeyfosterr.bsky.social•52 days ago

I don’t understand why people make such a big deal about micro transactions if they’re not *necessary* to progression. I simply do not purchase them?

corinnebusche.bsky.social•52 days ago

Certainly fine to hold that perspective. I don’t judge. I’ll just leave the question, especially for single player games, “what if these things were just included to make a better experience for you?”

chodeyfosterr.bsky.social•52 days ago

That’s a fair point.

kahuna68.bsky.social•52 days ago

100% Corinne! I want ready to go releases and I WANT a fully complete game if I pay say $80 for it! Anything else is scammy!

kaijarayne.bsky.social•51 days ago

Do feel free to block me if you don't want to hear polite editorial critique. I'll be accused of hating on you & Veilguard for even pointing this out.

I lost 14 hours of my life to common bugs in your 'mostly bug/glitch free game'.

If big, untrustworthy mags added that score? VG would've failed.

noni.bsky.social•52 days ago

I noticed this with Veilguard when I was browsing mods. They are by and large appearance and armor additions. No cheats, no inventory management, no shader fixes. Which is a huge compliment, because you all already made those things fantastic! I really appreciate a well-oiled game like that.

corinnebusche.bsky.social•52 days ago

Here’s a pitch to gaming journalism sites- in addition to a Review Score, provide a separate Completeness Score. Reward and inform on this shit.

kahuna68.bsky.social•51 days ago

patrickdhardy.bsky.social•52 days ago

I like this.

ryanxx87.bsky.social•52 days ago

You all shipped one of if not the most legitimately complete gaming experience last year.

Absolutely amazing. 🫡

andresplays.bsky.social•52 days ago

I always make mentuon of that with games that I review. It deserves a mention.

corinnebusche.bsky.social•52 days ago

🙏

safeandsolid.bsky.social•52 days ago

I for one am delighted DATV finished with a completed story, no bugs, and no micro transactions! 🥳🥳 Gave me PS2 era vibes. (i’m still bummed about no DLC but respect y’all’s descision 😭)

starrshinegirl.bsky.social•52 days ago

The fact that you released a game that I could just *play*.
It didn’t crash my Xbox out. I didn’t have to make any weird sacrifices to the computer gods to play it on my steam deck.
It played on launch PERFECTLY.

I don’t remember the last game that happened with.

King’s Quest V, maybe?

amypisces.bsky.social•52 days ago

This is something I'd like to see more of. If a game is buggy or glitchy as all out or has micro-transactions, I'm less likely to play. As a player, this is something I should know about before going into a game.

ayamasa.bsky.social•52 days ago

Companies shouldn't cave to entitled fans either. If a game isn't ready on the projected release date, don't release it and don't bully the staff into rushing it. I hoped people learned from Cyberpunk...

cheyennegames.bsky.social•50 days ago

In the first 200 hours or so of Veilguard, I had one crash, and that was 100% caused by a hair mod.

The stability, polish and performance/optimization - not to mention the fantastic implementation of DLSS that doesn't ruin the game's visuals - is on another level🙌

talonofmyheart.bsky.social•52 days ago

YES. Ship complete games is a big one for me. I used to remember when this was commonplace (I'm showing my age here). So appreciate that DATV is exactly that.

durenar.bsky.social•50 days ago

I agree. And Early Access is not a release!

rpggemsuk.bsky.social•52 days ago

I am so grateful for the bug-free, fun experience I've had with Veilguard!

Ngl, I did think there would be DLC's, as there usually are (one reason why I'm on my fifth playthrough - I can't get enough of it 😅). But I understand.

muirnara.bsky.social•51 days ago

That is one of the MAIN reasons why I felt Veilguard deserves more recognition. Impeccably bug free, smooth as butter. And no story patches or DLC required to complete. THAT is so exceptionally rare these days.

ravenrinka.bsky.social•52 days ago

I still need to learn the blood magic contract yall made with ea to get veilguard on steam natively and no micro transactions

rattatatouille.bsky.social•52 days ago

And no DRM too.

motionless95.bsky.social•52 days ago

Your team did it, especially being under EA. Fully support it, can’t wait to see your next project!

themidnightoil.bsky.social•52 days ago

Absolutely, hence my love of DA:tV

jennamajor.bsky.social•52 days ago

I was really impressed how smooth and bug free VGs launch was. I ran into 1 bug during 3 playthroughs across PC and PS5 and it was a minor nothing that disappeared when I reloaded. The team did a great job on that, it ran beautifully on both systems.

bludgeonparagon.bsky.social•51 days ago

maybe a burning hot take but I never thought of DLC or microtransactions as inherently evil, only that the way publishers structured them made them completely unpalatable and hostile to consumers

tb-strickland.bsky.social•50 days ago

I’ve always liked DLCs, but not constant micro transactions. I feel like the place we were in the mid-2010s with games like DAI and Wildhunt was a good happy medium — a few fun, worthwhile short stories and then done.

leecostigan.com•52 days ago

I agree w/the sentiment, but complete feels like a moving target. What happens when Metaphor: ReFantazio gets the FES or Royal treatment? Is the base game less complete now?

Or when publishers like Namco push out mtx after the review / news cycle like Tekken 8? Suddenly that complete game, isn’t.

wildforestnerd.bsky.social•52 days ago

DATV was such a smooth experience. Aside from a couple of crashes (which because of the games excellent save system did not erase any of my progress) and a few teeny tiny little visual glitches it was basically perfect in terms of how it ran. You and the team can be really proud of that 🩵

baundiesel.com•52 days ago

Not to toot your own horn but I don't know if I ran into a single bug or glitch in my whole playthrough of The Veilguard. Not any that I noticed anyways.

cosmicgirlworld.bsky.social•52 days ago

I only came across *one* in 172 hours and, even then, it was easily fixed by reloading and swapping out a companion due to the game's excellent auto save system. Veilguard is the most polished western RPG I've played in years. I felt completely safe and trusting with it.

kahuna68.bsky.social•52 days ago

None. The game was released in a super tidy state!

marscardua.bsky.social•52 days ago

I did, but few and far between and, except one time in the first week when it crashed, none was game breaking. Tbh 99% of them were just cute or funny

belleofthebog.bsky.social•52 days ago

For some reason my Qunari room always get the infinite drowning glitch but only in Treviso...

sweetsartcorner.bsky.social•51 days ago

It's unfortunate that negativity gets pushed so much more and people have less interest in being positive about new releases

Veilguard ran so smoothly right on day one and I only had a single bug in 80h of gameplay but all people wanna talk about are CC scars 🫠

luisademesquita.bsky.social•52 days ago

absolutely, I had a bug-free experience with Veilguard and really appreciated it!!

marscardua.bsky.social•52 days ago

Nothing is ever good enough to audiences 😑 Entitlement over every single tiny thing in games, especially bigger and more complex games, has been encouraged to a critical mass. Can't imagine how tiring it must be to you

ayamasa.bsky.social•52 days ago

We should also make a bigger deal of games that are full of content and good writing. But look how the big companies reacted to BG3 - it wasn't "wow look what can be done with time and passionate staff who care about the lore". It was "shut up don't expect that from the rest of us lmao"

homobaroque.bsky.social•52 days ago

People do. Reviews do. You just wanted to make an off topic snide remark.

ayamasa.bsky.social•52 days ago

Am I wrong? Everything and everyone hyped BG3 and we were basically told never to expect anything like that. I'm sorry you're so defensive.

corinnebusche.bsky.social•52 days ago

Let’s not argue over the matter. Please recognize that the conditions are vastly different between private and publicly traded companies.

We all want better games

homobaroque.bsky.social•52 days ago

Sorry Corinne. It’s just been frustrating seeing the way fans have been treating devs online lately, even in their own replies. I normally hold my tongue but today wasn’t one of those days. 😅

corinnebusche.bsky.social•52 days ago

Hey we’re all passionate. I get it.

homobaroque.bsky.social•52 days ago

I’m not “defensive,” Corinne’s post just wasn’t about this particular topic. You can critique games to your heart’s content but wedging it into off topic discussions devs are trying to have online is annoying.

katsirae.bsky.social•52 days ago

Celebrating the good is uplifting to all.

artanissnow.bsky.social•52 days ago

100% agree with this!!! The micro transactions just 😖😖😖😖

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