The big difference between Us and Them is that, when we want to discredit someone, we *want* people to read what they've written and hear what they've said. Because what they've written and what we've said is what is discrediting. Anger should come from knowledge, not from ignorance.
It's not banned and never was. Bavaria owned the copyright and refused to reprint it until it went out copyright in 2016.
I read it and used it as a source when I was studying the time period in high school. It's not something you would read for fun etc, but it has a place.
I agree with this, even in regards to. . .certain books (ex: Turner Diaries, Mein Kamph, etc). Tho they should be put in a special category in any local library that warns of their contents so your average joe doesn't accidentally pick them up.
Get pissed get organized and GET IN THE fight.
-50/50 protests
-email and call your representatives DAILY
-Get involved in local county Democratic Party
-Follow, share, repost
-Get educated through podcasts or personal research
-WE THE PEOPLE
Even in Germany you now can get it again with added comments. What is appropriate for a book like that.
Yes, you can't avoid that some will ignore the comments but it has been around anyway all the time it was forbidden. And the writing is so old-fashioned now it is less dangerous for young people.
I believe that people in this period need to read four types of books: the first nourishes the soul (for me, the Qur’an), the second is herbal medicine, the third is self-sufficiency in lunch and water, and the fourth is the anarchist cookbook،، then start to live with power
There are books that are banned because they expose and reveal facts, science, history, etc., and there are books that are banned because they lead the reader to delirium if he does not have strong faith. Some of them carry names and spells that will bring you destruction and you do not know it.
I’m reading Nickel Boys. The frosh/soph English depart at the school where I substitute requires it along with Animal Farm, 1984, Night, Fahrenheit 452 & Raisin in the Sun!
That’s right—any book worth banning is definitely worth reading… unless, of course, it’s got something truly disturbing that might scar the reader for life. Then, uh, maybe proceed with caution?
Along with books by my mentor, Guy Davenport, I am pleased to be the writer of a book that is not only banned…but could not even be published in, known to Guy as, “these deplorable times”…Stay Tuned: through Better Read I will bring out a new edition of my novel in a much more offensive expansion.
No, the banners are separated into two groups:
-already read them and don't want more people to
-don't read much of anything outside of their holy book
He was not religious, but he actually read the Bible and could quote many things from it. I think he read the Quran as well. He was a very intelligent man. I have tried to read the Bible but found it too boring.
Isaac Asimov is the only person to have either written, wrote a forward to or edited a book in every single Dewey decimal designation. You’re welcome for next trivia night lol
It’s banned in Germany, in Austria it’s allowed and my grandma read it. Not because she supports it, she had been all her life a social democrat and was horrified by the war and Hitler. So she read it, to understand those times better, cause she was born in '38 and her first years of life were war.
Yea, I lived in Germany for 7 years. Learning about Nazi Germany and the holocaust is mandatory for all school children but not with that book. It’s a bit scary seeing how things are going there right now. “Never again” may not even last a century
That scares me too, I spend a handful years in Germany as child, so school too, the Holocaust is a very important history topic in Germany and Austria too, mandatory as you said it.
My grandma read it, cause she wanted to know why people didn’t see or pretended not to see the horror that embarked.
I left Germany 3 years ago. What was clear to me is that the message is “don’t do this to Jews”. Important, of course, but when it doesn’t extend to other marginalised populations, they never really erase the mentality behind what happened.
It left when I turned 18, went back to Vienna, spend 3 years there. I was in a really small town, in the school the a bunch of Nazi-teens. I myself was kinda hippy-like, long hair & lots of weed. They somehow respected me, guess cause I was older. Had lots of talks with them & believe even reached 1
It’s banned in Germany but free to read in the US. Knowledge is power. I like knowing what genocidal megalomaniacs are saying and doing so I can see it in others and expose them to try and nip it in the bud, as we gardeners like to say. I need to know which plant is invasive so I can eradicate it
I have always found that when you try to prevent people from having a thing, regardless of what it is, they will always find a way to have it. This is why prohibition failed, just as book bans will always fail. But I still like the movie "Fahrenheit 451".
And yet you made one hell of a claim based on never reading many or all of them in some detail. That’s like basing the Bible on the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, which is often misunderstood by most people or on Lott’s daughter’s actions. Clearly the rest of the Bible must be just as bad.
Not necessarily. I don't think that Mein Kampf should be banned. It has its purpose as an object of study in an academic context. But there is little value in reading that vile shite in and of itself. The fact that it gets banned doesn't make it a better work.
I used to get the best recommendations for books from my highschool librarian. She saw I was reading 1984 and we talked extensively about banned books. It was enlightening.
My art teacher read To Kill a Mocking Bird to us in the 7th grade. I loved Scout & Jem and Boo Radley. It taught me a love for reading and story telling
My Mom hid books she didn’t think I should read on the top shelf of her closet. So, like every teenager, I found and read a couple of them. One was “The Godfather,” the other, “The Happy Hooker (no I’m not kidding).” Never joined the mob, never was a hooker, happy or otherwise.
Mein Kampf? Yeah, it's not as black and white, certain books are not worth the paper they're printed on, but I guess it depends on what one expects to get out of them.
to be clear I question the intent behind reading certain books, for example "Main Kampf" might be a good read for a historian studying Hitler, then again I would prefer others with fascistic tendencies to have a limited access to such material, I don't see a good reason why print new copies.
I would argue that the true check on fascism is educating the population on what it looks like when it is imposed upon them as a society rather than barring individuals from the literature of fascist thinkers.
In many ways, the banning of books in a society with constitutionally guaranteed liberties can be a tool for the enlightened. A veritable guide to the best in contemporary literature and media that a wise publisher would use in advertising. In a perverse way, I like it!
I very much wish I could afford to set up a Little Free Library, but more to the point I wish I could afford to keep it fully stocked with banned books at all times, despite the efforts of the fascists...
Keeping it stocked is not as tough as you would think. I started with books I was going to donate. I asked neighbors and friends for books they were going to donate. My local library gives me books. Ask your local library if they have a program for little free libraries! 📚
too oversimplified, after WWII Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” was banned, and there is nothing interesting in that book just a man explaining why he hates everyone and what he wants to do with those he hates
And that's what makes 'Mein Kampf' interesting - nobody said "entertaining". It's a rare view into a mind of one of the drivers of fascism.
Had Americans read or at least learned from it, Trump wouldn't be where he is now.
Exactly this! Knowledge is never bad. The ideas being pushed can be, but the knowledge of what was said to cause such hate and destruction is important for ensuring it doesn't happen again. There is no bad knowledge, only bad actions.
Also is the one with annotations and context is the easiest available one. It might sowieso some doubt in the mind of someone in the early phases of radicalisation. Tho it won't do anything to most further along.
Time to set up online lending libraries. Those with money can donate the cost of shipping. Guard against people who will deliberately destroy them. Find volunteers to search them out in second hand stores. These books are precious.
Back when Ireland had a list of banned books it was suggested that if only these were translated into Irish a lot of people would finally want to read something in their native tongue.
Banning a "bad" book often gives it notoriety, mystery, and power it doesn't deserve. A forbidden book with limited access can become like an initiation into a shared secret. Usually, they're poorly written and/or boring.
Any long-ass thread of memes, videos, and letters specifically covering the CONSITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT TO REMOVE DONALD TRUMP FROM OFFICE AND INVESTIGATE THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION FOR SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY & ACTS OF SEDITION is prolly worth the read too...
When the movie The Last Temptation Of Christ came out, my friends and I went to see it mainly because of the protests. I talked to one of the protesters before we went in, asked if he had seen it, and offered to buy him a ticket when he said he hadn’t. He refused. Make up your own mind.
Hmmmm......so everyone would be okay with " The Over Forties Guide To Picking Up Kids" ???? Sorry Issac...some books should be burnt. :P #justgivingyouguff
While the Associated Press is not a book but a collection of writers, I find it interesting that they are banned from the White House and Air Force One for calling the Gulf of America the Gulf of Mexico. Is banning a writer, not the same thing as banning a book?
Why? Aren't you excited for a 40 page monologue at the end of hundreds of pages about how no one is a inherently awesome as the main character and therefore should expire along with very UNSUBTLE self insertion of the author for absolutely no reason???
Comments
But you live in America, I'm guessing?
His statement doesn't address the value of non-banned books.
I read it and used it as a source when I was studying the time period in high school. It's not something you would read for fun etc, but it has a place.
https://bsky.app/profile/joemulhall.bsky.social/post/3lhz6eamtbk2a
Get pissed get organized and GET IN THE fight.
-50/50 protests
-email and call your representatives DAILY
-Get involved in local county Democratic Party
-Follow, share, repost
-Get educated through podcasts or personal research
-WE THE PEOPLE
rip alien llm bots
Only totalitarian regimes are banning books!
Low educated people and people with limited knowledge are easy to manipulate!
Yes, you can't avoid that some will ignore the comments but it has been around anyway all the time it was forbidden. And the writing is so old-fashioned now it is less dangerous for young people.
what utter horse shit.
#History
❤️🇨🇦
Read #sociopolitical books.
-already read them and don't want more people to
-don't read much of anything outside of their holy book
https://www.amazon.com/MOSTLY-HARMFUL-Things-Everyone-Religion/dp/B08JJ2MSNV
My grandma read it, cause she wanted to know why people didn’t see or pretended not to see the horror that embarked.
I'm genuinely curious about it.
✅ Completely free to mine
✅ No expensive equipment needed
✅ Grows in value as adoption increases
Join now using my referral code Duncandx23 and start mining Pi today:
➡️ https://minepi.com/Duncandx23
Secure your spot before mining becomes harder! 🚀
Live on 20 feb
No not really, but I do love his books and own some very old copies :)
Those books have caused more death, wars, hatred, and human suffering, than any others throughout history.
That being said, I have never claimed to have read any of the aforementioned books.
The lack of understanding and recognizing of the monsters, is why some people don’t see the monsters.
“Any book worth banning is a book worth reading.— Issac Asimov.”
So true.
To be punched
That being said, bans of a book that wouldn't have been read very much anyway are just free publicity.
Had Americans read or at least learned from it, Trump wouldn't be where he is now.
Like Mein Kampf, Nazis will still ignore those but it would still be worth it.
Link is in my profile.
https://bsky.app/profile/scooptown.bsky.social/post/3li33xeluak2u
That book is so damn overrated.
wanna make sure I read a book over the summer?
Put it on a “banned book” list…
and I will definitely find find the library that has a copy…
Banning the writer is the same plus you're afraid they'll write more.
So, yes.
His older brother Michael was outraged and tore the book along the spine, but Benn repaired it with sticky tape.