Getting dueling “if you talk about anything but the terrorist murder of innocents, you’re an anti-Semite” vs. “if you talk about anything but the suffering of oppressed Palestinians you’re a racist colonist” and quite frankly I invite these folks to fuck right off. - ThreadSky

kenwhite.bsky.social • 514 days ago

Getting dueling “if you talk about anything but the terrorist murder of innocents, you’re an anti-Semite” vs. “if you talk about anything but the suffering of oppressed Palestinians you’re a racist colonist” and quite frankly I invite these folks to fuck right off.

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oldohman.bsky.social•514 days ago

I'm old, live in Ohio and my friends think of me as being opinionated and informed (I mean, I read Popehat) so I've been asked my take on what's going on. I got nothing. A tinder box most of my life is burning again. Tragic and not unexpected.

nordiccarved.bsky.social•514 days ago

It’s like, dude I have my own shit to deal with, my own life. I don’t have time to talk about global problems let me handle myself first.

cayaberndt.bsky.social•514 days ago

This. I think Internet Discourse (with maybe a sprinkle of US politic) has conditioned us to pick sides, when some issues are absolutely massive and can’t be distilled into a single slogan or post. It feels very flattening and, in the worst cases, provides an opportunity for posturing.

alexscotian.bsky.social•514 days ago

I heard someone say today that you can’t have an intelligent conversation about the Arab-Israeli conflict on social media, and “truer words” and all that stuff.

j4years.bsky.social•514 days ago

Nearly everyone in both those groups thinks they have an easy magical solution to a long intractable conflict, and that’s why I usually avoid online Israel/Palestine discourse.

staidwinnow.cultofsundries.com•514 days ago

I usually avoid offline discourse for exactly the same reason. Online, BLOCK and MUTE works.

walkingtaako.bsky.social•514 days ago

Yep. Going one way creates a massive problem. Going the other way creates a different massive problem. And the middle ground creates different problems neither side can tolerate. Maybe there's a solution somewhere in there, but none of you know it.

ralucahippie.bsky.social•513 days ago

For every single problem in this world there is a very simple, very obvious solution which doesn't actually work.

hobogue.bsky.social•514 days ago

I feel horrible for everyone and I have a multitude of questions...

dawnbuggy.bsky.social•514 days ago

The only thing I’m certain of in this whole thing is that if someone believes one side is entirely in the right and the other is entirely in the wrong, that someone’s opinion isn’t worth considering.

spectorhairday.bsky.social•514 days ago

The best approach is to mute or block. With extreme prejudice.

botzendesign.bsky.social•514 days ago

Treat your neighbors like dogs eventually they will bit you.

hobogue.bsky.social•514 days ago

"This. I think Internet Discourse (with maybe a sprinkle of US politic) has conditioned us to pick sides, when some issues are absolutely massive and can’t be distilled into a single slogan or post. It feels very flattening and, in the worst cases, provides an opportunity for posturing."

l1mb0.bsky.social•514 days ago

This certainly seems like the discourse on the accursed X right now. Have you been running into it here?

ellearee.bsky.social•514 days ago

I’ve definitely seen it there. Plus every other social media platform I visited since Saturday, including this one.

actuallevi.bsky.social•514 days ago

I'm having a hard thing not involving myself.

bretdevereaux.bsky.social•514 days ago

The whole "your silence speaks volumes" directed at private individuals with the (mis)fortunate to have social media profiles is absurdly silly.

aarong.gay•513 days ago

Yeah - my silence on the matter is a reflection of the fact that I don’t understand what’s happening well enough to form an opinion and I will not be changing those circumstances.

josephrohrbach.bsky.social•514 days ago

i have been completely seriously accused of direct complicity in Israeli atrocities because i said that all civilian murders are bad & shld be stopped

jdrhoades.bsky.social•512 days ago

You're in good company. Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafi (sp?) got the same treatment.

dax.pryce.io•514 days ago

@marisakabas.bsky.social latest article basically nails the "this just fucking sucks and there are a lot of villains in this play" theme I'm stewing in

wedgeantilles.bsky.social•514 days ago

Yep

trollbot.bsky.social•514 days ago

we get a genuine "both sides" moment and America is like "nah I don't wanna do the bit this time"

marisakabas.bsky.social•514 days ago

thanks 🙏

you can read here https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/the-war-inside

landisweaver.bsky.social•514 days ago

What a wonderful and powerful essay

dax.pryce.io•514 days ago

she's been consistently very good, i just subbed today. easy call given her body of work :)

marisakabas.bsky.social•514 days ago

thanks so much

pugetopia.bsky.social•514 days ago

Thank you

swesteel.bsky.social•514 days ago

I’m standing over in the corner of the children being hurt, it amazes me that there are people out there who have found anywhere else to stand.

oldhoundderby.bsky.social•514 days ago

I just got called a racist colonialist piece of shit because I was advocating that the murder of children by either side was amoral. 🤷🏻‍♂️

oldhoundderby.bsky.social•514 days ago

I will likely get banned though, because I had two drinks for Canadian Thanksgiving, and my inner suppressed Cape Bretoner came roaring out with a vengeance (thank God I’m not a master swearer like my Dad).

anarchoterran.bsky.social•514 days ago

I've received similar condemnations for similar reasons in the last 24 hours. Tribalism pisses me off. BTW, my paternal grandmother's family was from Cape Breton.