40k out of 2.5M federal employees is 1.6%. Small fry.
I expect the total number offered the deal is less than 2.5M as the notice said some would be exempt. Even if that reduced the number offered the deal to 2M only 2% would have accepted the offer. Definitely not enough to be significant.
Show me the source of this number as I believe its fake news from the new government "spokespeople" to make those on the fence believe it must be a good offer if that many accepted it. I find it hard to believe.
I don’t believe the Post’s numbers. The article I saw said an OPM official provided the numbers but was not more specific. Why would we believe OPM numbers without more substantiation.
Not cowards. That’s absurd and unsupportive of people who worked to enforce and enact your laws for decades and are now facing no good outcome in exchange.
Interesting. The people who are retiring are laughing at the people who took the deferred resignation, think they will actually have a retirement fund. Xelon has got that fund on his thumb drive.
I enjoy the Bugs v Daffy approach to defending democracy. Paint a 3D looking door on the wall. Dress up like Rump's mother and haunt him during shark week. Something something duck season.
Prob more effective than family newscritters and congressshitters tbh
Context needed. Out of a 2 million workforce, how many people would retire and resign over an 8 month period. The delta between that number and 40k is the meaningful number.
3 Million and change is the federal workforce as of end of 2024. Judging by the reported averages on turnover (retirement and simply quitting) that’s recently been between 120k-155k per year. So ultimately insignificant at this point.
Yeah…read something last night suggesting that the munbers they were seeing (referenced as 35k -ish) would be consistent with ordinary turnover for the time span.
I thought I read somewhere that annual attrition nationwide in federal employment is like 5% to 7% of the workforce, consisting of retirements, involuntary terminations, and moves to the private sector and elsewhere.
I’m all for solidarity, but some folks are intent on touching the stove. We’ll be here with some aloe after they’re done and maybe we can have a talk about why we don’t do that moving forward.
Why? These are mostly dedicated public servants, many of them older, who are facing an impossibly abusive situation (and enabling the dismantling of our democracy) if they stay, and could be laid off in weeks anyway. My friends (both close to retirement) are staying, but in deep distress.
I feel for them. I’ve been thru multiple layoffs, so I know it’s traumatic. Unfortunately, we know that Trump has a history of not paying up and there’s no reason to think that doesn’t apply to this situation. He’s asking them to leave because at the moment he can’t force them out.
Did your job have a built-in army of thugs ready to come to your home and injure you once your name was revealed? Or a “boss” who is going to make you abuse the laws of your own government? Which by the way could also put you in legal jeopardy? Sorry but not so simple.
Shit the venues are just from the last 10ish years, go back to the fuckin 70s through 2015 he was stiffing contractors all the time at his buildings . Dude hasn’t paid shit his whole life and now they’re gonna believe they will be paid? LOL. Ok
Over 100,000 people retire from the Federal Government each year. If you were about to retire, why not take the extra money? Some of these people would have left the payroll earlier, so DOGE is likely costing the government millions in extra pay.
There are about 3Million Federal civil servants and about 40000 decided to take this offer ... so just about 1% the entire federal workforce is going to not work for 8 months. This is a win?
As a former HR person in municipal government my advice would be: under absolutely no circumstances do anything even marginally weird at this point. Even thirty days can make a meaningful difference!
Yeah, I wasnt advocating for taking it. If I was a short timer id be sticking around to guarantee my service time & to just cause trouble. So many laws and regs have likely been broken and congress didn't set money aside for it. Maybe if I was already eligible to retire & wanted to avoid the drama.
I hope you are right... Does anyone in power right now care about rules and process? Who is going to enforce these rules? The gutted labor boards? Purged Inspectors General? Trump and Musk are consciously committing crimes and betting that, as usual, they won't be held accountable.
To put the number in perspective: ~60,000-70,000 fed employees retire every year, or ~5,000+/month.
40,000=number of people who would have retired anyway between now and September, the end of the alleged deferred resignation program.
With this many people going back into the private sector, and the number will surely grow significantly.. it could very well drive down wages.. another boon for employers in addition to the tax cuts for them this is intended to generate
The administration knows this will predominantly target people not ideologically aligned with Trump who feel their jobs are in jeopardy already.
It also shields the administration from legal liability.. They can say they resigned…
This number is going to spike as the deadline approaches…
and I suspect they’ll go for round two and see if they can gut the government any further..
Why not, right..🤷♂️
Wait for things going worse. And remember there is no hero coming to help, and the US courts have been made redundant, and the Congress, and with Treasury (next will be SWIFT) gone totally controlled...
What’s the over/under that they don’t get paid and benefits through September. I mean watch what they DO, not what they SAY bc they just lie and we are stuck holding the bag
This is from an anonymous source who also said not one of them wasn't already going to retire which means a whole group of feds just took advantage of the administration by getting several months of full pay they wouldn't have otherwise. Not a great plan Musky!!
That’s not very many. ~1.6% and Leon thought it would be 10%. Bet a lot of them are eligible for voluntary early retirement, for people 50+ with 20 years of service or anyone with 25 years. They offered VERA (supposedly) only if you take the fork “offer”.
I read that something like 10k fed employees retire every month. How many of that 40k are retiring before September and taking an early larger paycheck?
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I expect the total number offered the deal is less than 2.5M as the notice said some would be exempt. Even if that reduced the number offered the deal to 2M only 2% would have accepted the offer. Definitely not enough to be significant.
i hope they stay the course, those left. there's nothing so many of us can do, but they can.
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Prob more effective than family newscritters and congressshitters tbh
40k would be about 1.5%. I would imagine if you were retiring this year you would just go ahead and roll the dice on it.
40,000=number of people who would have retired anyway between now and September, the end of the alleged deferred resignation program.
If you can believe them any more. .
I expect they’ll be written in black sharpie 🙄
With our agencies and its workforce now decimated, we’re about to find out what real dysfunctional gov feels like..
It also shields the administration from legal liability.. They can say they resigned…
and I suspect they’ll go for round two and see if they can gut the government any further..
Why not, right..🤷♂️
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