After 15 years of my working life between Surrey, Liverpool & N. Wales I can categorically claim this as fact. My English & Welsh children will testify to that, As will my brother's & sister's- in-law. I could never be anti-English, But I am 100% Anti-Westminster & anti-Establishment. - ThreadSky

scotlandscomrade.bsky.social • 49 days ago

After 15 years of my working life between Surrey, Liverpool & N. Wales I can categorically claim this as fact. My English & Welsh children will testify to that, As will my brother's & sister's- in-law. I could never be anti-English, But I am 100% Anti-Westminster & anti-Establishment.

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alanwmarsden.bsky.social•47 days ago

I’m British first, Cumbrian Second and English Last!

scotlandscomrade.bsky.social•47 days ago

Good for you, I'm Glaswegian first, Scottish second. Never British.

mrsastronaut.bsky.social•49 days ago

Agree

daibhi.bsky.social•49 days ago

I can also confirm this. Cornish/Yorkshire hybrid in Scotland.

antiannette.bsky.social•49 days ago

Well said👏 That’s exactly how I feel. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

alexgallagher.bsky.social•48 days ago

Do you have a positive case for believing that independence would make Scots better off?

scotlandscomrade.bsky.social•48 days ago

Better off by not supplementing ever policy that was concocted by Westminster to the detriment of Scotland, Wales & N. Ireland you mean? Where would you like me to begin? Could we start with trade? The EU would love to have our fresh produce in a timely manner. Then there is freedom of movement.....

alexgallagher.bsky.social•48 days ago

No. Not that you disagree with some policies or would like to apply for EU membership.

I mean a fully thought out case that shows Scots and Scotland would be better off economically, socially or in any other way.

scotlandscomrade.bsky.social•47 days ago

1 )Personally, I don't need one. My heart tells me that my country has had enough of being treated like a third class citizen. I'd take an economy like Greece in order to get away from WM. Regardless of your thin arguments for staying in the union, Anything has to be better than this status quo.

scotlandscomrade.bsky.social•47 days ago

2) Economically, If Scotland is as piss poor as England makes out, Why don't they cut us free? Our food & drink sector combined is 31.8% of the UK's GDP, Then there is the R&D of renewables that nets a whopping £98 Billion into the UK's coffers as it is now. Add tourism to that, So we could do it.

toplandscaper.bsky.social•47 days ago

@scotlandscomrade.bsky.social
I'm with you on this one. I don't think the economic argument is as important as the outright case for Indy on principle.

alexgallagher.bsky.social•47 days ago

So you don't have a case and don't need a case, which is fair enough for you, and honest too. I suspect a lot of indy supporters secretly agree with you.

But good luck with persuading anyone else: "vote for independence, there's no logical case for it ".

scotlandscomrade.bsky.social•47 days ago

The logic is very simple as stated, we can do better than Westminster & even if we don't, Fuck it, It'll still be logical to take decisions for ourselves. I'd rather we fuck it up, Than Westminster doing it for us.

scottdomhnallach.bsky.social•49 days ago

I agree but its going to take time for the idea to settle in the minds of many English people that Scotland is no longer a part of it or worse still a possession. Not everybody felt that way and a lot of those who do aren't even aware of it but its part of the legacy of the British establishment.

syd4444.bsky.social•49 days ago

Fully agree, I fully blame the Westminster Government and Establishment. The WM Gov don’t even care about the English people. The corrupt Union is run by WM for WM, the people of England and the other nations are only pawns in their corrupt game of politics.
WM is the problem not the English.

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