Scholar of American institutions with specializations in the presidency and interest groups here 🙋 Quid pro quo "vote buying"/corruption has been historically rare, but access (which can be gained through $$$) is an important prerequisite of influence. Is everyone at the NYT intentionally dense??? - ThreadSky

davidryanmiller.com • 20 days ago

Scholar of American institutions with specializations in the presidency and interest groups here 🙋

Quid pro quo "vote buying"/corruption has been historically rare, but access (which can be gained through $$$) is an important prerequisite of influence.

Is everyone at the NYT intentionally dense???

Reposted from Eric Lipton NYT

Someone buying $TRUMP family's memecoin to get access to the president at a dinner to push POTUS to take an official act that benefits the buyer of the token. That only becomes a "bribe" or even in the realm of a bribe if the official act is then taken. So it's potential corruption.

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blzerk.bsky.social•20 days ago

yes

snogg3.bsky.social•20 days ago

No, just fascists.

juliefauble.bsky.social•20 days ago

Relevant as always: “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” — Upton Sinclair

drgdave.bsky.social•20 days ago

No.

Corrupt.

davidryanmiller.com•20 days ago

One of the best modern papers on lobbying and access is Broockman and Kalla's field experiment demonstrating that when an interest group told MoC's offices their members make campaign contributions, they were more likely to meet with higher-level officials

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ajps.12180?casa_token=JKcaKFuViJIAAAAA%3AglwVj7qySHSoPnUn1rYt3v4PFdaNCZ__4b6BqztiMmA9wL8fBO9o_75NLHg2XR7lHf7GNqnRgq5Dck4M

davidryanmiller.com•20 days ago

In my own work on presidents engaging with interest groups, I argue (based on past studies as well as original interviews with WH staff and lobbyists) that in-person meetings are particularly valuable for both sides to advance their agendas--and that the WH meets more often with moneyed interests.

davidryanmiller.com•20 days ago

On the access-->influence linkage Baumgartner et al.'s seminal 2009 book suggests groups with government allies (to whom they have access) are more successful in advancing their policy agendas:

https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=0UIYWSPxnLkC&oi=fnd&pg=PR5&dq=info:5EzS5AVXuo4J:scholar.google.com/&ots=0bHpE3F9VC&sig=LUCt1W_Qy34Sti7kEAYWRshBgRQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

davidryanmiller.com•20 days ago

In any event, don't get tricked by SCOTUS' overly narrow understanding of what constitutes a bribe/corruption in last year's Snyder v. US.

Giving public officials money makes it more likely you get access, and access leads to influence.

Take that knowledge and advance normative claims from there.

davidryanmiller.com•20 days ago

Shout-out to @henryhenryhenry.com for having the post that inspired me to rant:

https://bsky.app/profile/henryhenryhenry.com/post/3loy2nbug7k2n

rickarddavidt.bsky.social•20 days ago

"Is everyone at the NYT intentionally dense???"
Yes. This has been another simple answer...

experimental22.bsky.social•20 days ago

The NYT is collaborating with American Nazism to protect itself.

historydafydd.bsky.social•20 days ago

Wasn’t Nixon was selling ambassadorships during the 72 campaign? This corruption is not new but perhaps not so blatant.

dennydorko.bsky.social•20 days ago

They probably just feel like they have to explain it to the public like they are very dumb...because, you know.

coldpluto.bsky.social•20 days ago

Dense ( wink, wink )

grumdholt.bsky.social•20 days ago

Even if Trump never takes an official act to benefit whoever spent enough money to have dinner with him, Trump has made himself richer by leveraging his office.
There's potential for more corruption but actual corruption (Trump using his public office for personal gain) has already occurred.

andref1989.bsky.social•20 days ago

They're *desperately* trying to avoid lawsuits and/or other retribution

starlittexan.bsky.social•20 days ago

In their minds, they should imagine Obama or Biden or Hillary in any scenario they give Trump a pass on.

bama93003.bsky.social•19 days ago

Nope, just corrupt

judithflanders.co.uk•20 days ago

'Is everyone at the NYT intentionally dense?'

'I'll take 'What is Modern Journalism' for $500, Alex.'

stiffelman.bsky.social•20 days ago

Yes. Yes they are.

gritmonger.bsky.social•20 days ago

Answer: yes. Absolutely.

rainywindo.bsky.social•20 days ago

A. They're none of them exactly geniuses; but also

B. Yes.

paulsemenza.bsky.social•20 days ago

I don't think @ericlipton.nytimes.com is dense - he does a lot of good reporting on these things. He is just not content to let his reporting speak for itself. He sees people on bsky reacting to things he writes and disagrees with the reactions. But by doing this he does a disservice to his work.

andyo.bsky.social•20 days ago

It's not easy being that obtuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF-uHaKVW10

hotsaucephd.bsky.social•20 days ago

Absolutely

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