Less “oh this is Handmaids Tale vibes” and more “Ireland from 1920s-90s vibes” there is so much more to Irish history than colonialism and it should be known about globally what Irish people did to women and children here for decades.
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The other point to note is that this coincides with Ireland being "dirt poor", because the reactionary view is to stay down in the sewer to keep everyone there. Once that was smashed, Ireland boomed. $133,000 GDP PPP per capita now, over 2x the UK.
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Likewise, a return to reactionary norms would wreck the US GDP and quite frankly some areas will be reduced to third world status, if not left completely uninhabitable and wild.
See the thing is that when you have subsistence farming or whatever in the third world, it sucked, but it's at least "sustainable" in that you COULD get about enuf to survive on. By that, I mean the families you used to see on poverty TV in the 1990s had been doing that for centuries or millennia.
It was horrible, but some people were able to survive.
That's the issue here. In the American case, it might become "impossible" to survive in some areas, because those areas can only grow shit because of technology.
You didn't have those places in the "third world" because nobody fucking settled them in the first place. Because you wouldn't, and couldn't. Or desertification ran people out of the village and they were abandoned.
When I see comments from @mediawarrior.bsky.social that say "30 years of decay in 5" what that tells me is that there's going to be a serious reckoning. Like thus:
Both before and after independence. The Irish middle class has been responsible for some of the worst human rights abuses in history. An gorta mór couldn't have happened without their complicity.
2/2 An Gorta Mór could not have happened without the complicity of the Irish agricultural class, who continued to export food while their fellow men and women starved or left, and they hoovered up the land left behind. One of the greatest crimes in Irish history.
I'd start here. It's common knowledge that, after independence, the Free State was a world leader in incarcerating its own citizens without trial. The State also abandoned hundreds of thousands to the north in exchange for debt forgiveness. 1/2
Worse than the US normalizing material rape, legislating an amount of beating a woman should get in a day, and prohibiting them from controlling their own finances up until WW2 when we needed them to work factories?
No shade, just trying to figure if anywhere was okay-ish for women prior to 1970.
yeah, comparable, a truly awful history - another responder has already recommended the Magdalene Laundries - the film about them has stayed with me a long time
hell, or bank accounts. My grandmother had to go with her (alcoholic, had not managed his own finances for 30+ years) father to have him cosign a new account after she divorced my wifebeating conman grandfather
IDK about better or worse but you might look up Magdalene Laundries, for example, which were not a strictly Irish thing but lasted well into the 1980s and even 90s (IDK the exact year for Ireland specifically)
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That's the issue here. In the American case, it might become "impossible" to survive in some areas, because those areas can only grow shit because of technology.
I'd start here. It's common knowledge that, after independence, the Free State was a world leader in incarcerating its own citizens without trial. The State also abandoned hundreds of thousands to the north in exchange for debt forgiveness. 1/2
No shade, just trying to figure if anywhere was okay-ish for women prior to 1970.