Hey David love your show. Not crazy about you having guest hosts though. I tune in to listen to your insights not someone else's. MTN has guests hosts yes but that's a network not the Popok show. Hope you reconsider.
Basically once you realize the Republicans have no platform other than "feed the rich and fuck leftists", then this starts making sense.
Leftists are pro-science and pro-vaccines, so conservatives are now required to knee-jerk hate all science and vaccines even when it hurts them too to do so.
Same thing with climate change, actually. Things like renewable energy and energy conservative benefit conservatives as much as they do us, because obviously those things save money and produce energy independence on top of addressing climate change.
They are enamored with the concept of Darwinian eugenics wherein by only allowing the strong to survive they can create a superior race (which by an amazing coincidence looks just like them).
That make sense. As disabled by polio I can not fight or march. Staying alive is all I can do. And even for breathing I need a machine rest of my life. I am buden to society. I am happy that I live Europe.
I'm old enough to remember many people paralyzed and worse from polio. It was such a frightening disease. As a child I remember the relief my mother felt when we were finally vaccinated at school. The first vaccines were administered in the late 1700s. They work.
Problem with polio is, that most active (type A) children get paralysed, because we did not want to rest, when our motoneurons were infected. I Lost 70% of my motoneurones during the acute phase 1958. Polio makes you weak, but If you are not lucky, it does not kill you.
I have a friend who is about to turn 80, and she had polio as a child.
In other news, I was born in 1958 and didn't realize the time frame for polio. Maybe I should take a look at specifics.
Poliovaccine (Salk) was ready 1955. When I was one years old in february1958, I could have had poliovaccine in Finland. But My parents thougt that I was so healthy child, that I would not need it. In september 1958 I was completely paralysed and I allmost needed ventilator.
Hello! My biological paternal grandparents came over from Finland at the turn of the last century, and I am 1/2 Finn.
Are you living in America now or still in Finland?
Gene test says that I am 100% Finn. I am retired and living in Portugal. Because of polio I can not stand cold. It is also more easy to breath here 3 kilometers from Atlantic beach.
These maga republican s are seriously mentally ill what will happen if they did pull. The polio vaccination and god forbid their child caught polio. That's life threatening
I know David this is very very serious if they pull. The polio vaccination it's very dangerous to pull. Your country will. Be the only country who won't have the polio. Vaccination this is life threatening for chrildren and babies
Not sick David,but definitely cruel, insane,, totally lacking empathy, compassion for the people of America. RFK, brain worm has eaten to much of his frontal lobe, and Dementa Don has pudding for brains. Get ready for a lot more pandemics folks, with these lunatics in charge.
If people are sick or dead, they don't vote. They've already tanked the education system. They are just setting themselves up for more success through death and suffering. Your average Republicans.
What? It seems they want all those “childhood” diseases to come back. I had some of those diseases and they were not any type of fun. Measles, mumps and others. They were deadly before vaccines and they would be deadly now. RFK Jr should not be confirmed.
RFKJR disgrace! he lived through those times but he would have never seen it because he a kennedy, he was well protected from the normal world! I hope he doesn't end up like his father an uncle!
My Dad had whooping cough when he was a kid. It almost killed him. And now, thanks to all of this disinformation and junk science, whooping cough has made a 200%+ comeback in my home state of Tennessee.
The problem with polio is that it does not always kill you rigth a way. Whe it makes you wea and gives you pain for rest of your life. I got polio 1958 and I need to use breathing machine every day at least 11 hours a day rest of my life because I was not vaccinated
I'm sorry to hear that. I actually would never wish anyone to have to live through what you have or even worse. But the ignorance of our current society/culture/etc is just so annoying that I don't know if I should even attempt to inform them. It just doesn't seem worth it anymore.
The BBC show Call the Midwife has an episode that deals with the son of one of the main characters developing polio. He becomes so sick he has to be put in an iron lung and uses braces for a few seasons after he recovers. Should be mandatory viewing for anyone who wants to say vaccines are bad
He recovered from using an iron lung and braces? I did not imagine there was any recovery involved, an iron lung is for life and I know someone who had polio 70 years ago and still uses a stick as one leg is shorter than the other.
It’s believed he got polio from another child who only had very minor symptoms. Some patients did have to stay in the iron lung for the rest of their lives but some were able to regain their ability to breathe. Unfortunately viruses affect everyone differently.
My mother in law had childhood polio. She had to live in a hospital for 5 years in an iron lung. She had a deformed leg and health issues her whole life, but she did recover.
Back in nursing school I had a professor tell us that as nurses we are going to see diseases that haven’t been seen is years because of things like this.
They are nuts! I can't wait to find out what my Trump voteing brother has to say about it. I've been calling it all out at all of the Trump voters I know.
Be prepared for health insurance companies to start denying coverage when your kiddo catches one of these “preventable” diseases/illnesses. Just say’n!!
Because 92% of people have no symptoms when they get poliovirus and 6% have "flu" symptoms, only 1 prosent (like me 1958) got paralysed. And 1 prosent get damages in the brainstem (bulbar polio).
We can not get rid of the virus, because someone somewhere has it. Get vaccinated
I have family in Canada. It’s really hard for Canadians to get in to see their PCPs. If Americans start crossing the border for vaccines, it’ll probably overwhelm their already supply strapped system.
You don't understand covid didn't kill their loved ones, big pharmacy did by not administering their deworming paste for horses (or whatever they moved onto next 🙄)
"Those people?" He got the popular vote. He was openly fascist, admitted to not having any plans for healthcare, lost the debate...
Don't you mean, "we." We are sick as a country.
My father is old enough to remember seeing crippled kids and adults, and he remembers kids in iron lungs so they could breathe. My grandparents on both sides were really big on vaccinations. They saw the death and destruction of a world without vaccines.
If it is one thing I learned from your show this week, although I have been a bit of an ostrich, these chuckleheads will not demoralize me. And they will succumb to their arrogance
My mother was a doctor, graduated medical school in 1947. She knew the horrors of polio first hand. My siblings and I were vaccinated in 1955, as soon as she could get her hands on it.
Human scum dumb as bread (sorry bread for degrading you!) is in power now. This is going to be a hard time. But there is no way to convice people with reason :/
Something distinguishing I can remember of my Mom was this scar she had on her bicep. It was from being vaccinated in the '50s. I used to run my fingers over it and ask her if it hurt. She said it did at the time, but that it was worth it.
I work in healthcare and still have post polio patients. It’s crazy to think we will have to add another worry to our lives that has literally already been fixed bc of stupidity
It's the same here. I remember the huge sigh of relief and the outpouring of gratitude to the medical science community. My family stood in a line that stretched for two blocks to get ours. We were all so relieved. We had friends whose children were gravely affected.
My question is how many people have to get sick and die on RFK Jr.'s watch before people start to realize that mistakes were made? Or are they already developing excuses to blame the Democrats?
Dems: *politely point out it's because we didn't vote for them so they're a minority*
People: "Well why didn't you just give us [insert pet leftist thing here]? It's your fault we didn't vote for you, save us or we won't vote for you some more!"
...you do realize you just undermined your own point by, wait for it, blaming Democrats?
Not the voters who stayed home, not the voters who voted for Trump, not Garland who farted around, not the Republicans who know Trump is bad but still enable him, etc?
My first GP in the very early years of the NHS was Scottish, Jewish and wheelchair bound as a result polio (of which there were 8,000 cases a year before the vaccine)This was introduced in 1956 and eliminated polio in the U.K. Joining Afghanistan and Pakistan in vaccine hesitancy is ridiculous.
This will only legitimize the younger generations withdraw from having children. Most have not forgotten the toll that disease took. Except for RFK, aperently. No one will want to see thier children suffer the same fate.
Why are they all gung ho for the polio Vax? AV have been anti MMR, hep b at birth and the Gardasil vaccine for years and years. Why this sudden switch up?
Well, Trump always wanted to be a winner and being the best at something. He is in a good path to make America into a 3rd world country. At Least he is trying very hard to succeed.
Oh, those rightwingers and their zigzagging. They scream about a lack of babies (well, white babies, they mean). Then they remove effective prevention of diseases and pathogens that throughout human history were the main reason for babies dying. They are one very weird cult.
What it’s going to take to bring there’s fanatics to their senses is for people to start getting polio again . Then hopefully they will change course. Then again they might deny polio the way they denied COVID. Some went to their death saying they had a bad cold .
It is true, that one of milloin who get Sabin poliovaccine live (sugarcube) vaccine develop usually mild paralysis. That is why Paul Offit & al decided that USA used Salk (dead) polioshot. Only very poor countries use Sabin vaccine.
I'm not down playing, in any way, the threat these people pose because they are dumb enough to do something like this. However, a sneaky part of my brain thinks that this is a smoke screen to get people's attention while they're doing something worse elsewhere. It's a Kansas City Shuffle.
My mother was a student nurse during one of the polio epidemics. When she was 87 and on her deathbed, she still had nightmares. After getting her RN and MA she became a teacher and taught high school biology and chemistry. She only went back to nursing to become a director of a nursing school
Maybe after people start dieing and Americans wanting to travel overseas having to get doctors certificates to travel to overseas because of the polio and other early 20th century diseases breaking out all over America then just then they might decide that voting for Trump was a bad idea
Progressives have to meet MAGA where they’re at. Influential right wing podcaster doesn’t believe in COVID or vaccines? Recruit a motivated, accomplished and personable infectious disease physician to go talk directly on their platform. It’s going to take a lot of work and won’t be easy.
Once polio comes back anti vaxxers will learn the hard way.
My mother in law had polio as a child and lived in a hospital for 5 years because of the iron lung.
Once they come back people will change opinion very quickly.
if not now, they will be if they get their way. I always thought the zombie apocalypse stuff was actually about zombies, but I think I get the metaphor now
I can't help but think of a possible conspiracy theory that a foreign adversary is behind the entire administration coming in. It could be the same ones that fought C19 vaccines & masks, hoping more Americans would die with little expenditure.
Not saying you're wrong, but I think we (the collective left) should be careful about use of vague pronouns. Let's specify who we're talking about so people don't think we're falsely implying anybody that we're not.
I may be Alice in Wonderland, but something tells me that the powerful health insurance companies won't let this happen. It would bankrupt them. They're probably still recovering from the cost of covid.
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Leftists are pro-science and pro-vaccines, so conservatives are now required to knee-jerk hate all science and vaccines even when it hurts them too to do so.
But gotta "fuck leftists", so here we are.
its mind boggling.
In other news, I was born in 1958 and didn't realize the time frame for polio. Maybe I should take a look at specifics.
Are you living in America now or still in Finland?
I'm sure they are safe !
Why?
Why do the want to screw around with death!
What's the purpose!
Covid wasn't enough for you!
Millions died that wasn't enough!?
We should be protesting now, not later. Allowing trump to take public office with out resistance means you are admitting defeat already.
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We can not get rid of the virus, because someone somewhere has it. Get vaccinated
This is unbelievably dumb!
We could go to Canada or Mexico for vaccines
Once their loved ones are paralyzed & can’t breathe, will they reverse these stupid regulations?
Will we still be able to get vaccinated or will they ban them entirely?
Why can’t we sue govt for laws that kill us?
These same people saw everything Trump did in his first term and saw all the criminal trials in the interim and are still all in.
There will be no self awareness
Don't you mean, "we." We are sick as a country.
Is this true??
Any other facts I'm missing about the man??
Do tell, please 🙏😧
Could you please provide sources for claims like these when possible (maybe in replies) so we can investigate further
Keep up what you're doing
FDIC created in 1933
Polio vaccines in 1955.
Dems: *politely point out it's because we didn't vote for them so they're a minority*
People: "Well why didn't you just give us [insert pet leftist thing here]? It's your fault we didn't vote for you, save us or we won't vote for you some more!"
Not the voters who stayed home, not the voters who voted for Trump, not Garland who farted around, not the Republicans who know Trump is bad but still enable him, etc?
Should kill tourism and help to reduce all the "illegals".😭
(I know this is serious shit, but I need to use humour to stay sane...)
Nah, jk, they'll still vaccinate their kids. It's just other people's kids that deserve to suffer.
My mother in law had polio as a child and lived in a hospital for 5 years because of the iron lung.
Once they come back people will change opinion very quickly.
And the 14 years of heroin use.
Iron lungs....🤷♂️