I have to question the notion that this guy is a "thinker". Destruction (or de-construction) is a lot easier than construction. It takes weeks to build a house, but only hours to tear it down.
The destruction is the simple first step. They very much have a detailed plan for the society they want to construct on the ashes of liberal democracy. And it's compatible with the powerful people that want a theocratic society.
There is a disturbing connection between Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land and Peter Thiel who is primary controller of JD Vance. Plenty of MAGA leadership subscribes to this anti-democratic thinking. Include Elon Musk and understand how this ties into his influence in UK and German politics.
What really stands out with all these wackadoo and their supporters is that they were all born before abortion and contraception were readily available to their parents.
Its also interesting to see the obvious self hate- which goes back to the unwanted birth suspicion.
One of the earliest lessons I took from studying history was that absolute power corrupts absolutely. The other was that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
My hope is that we wake up and see what is happening before it evolves into a full blown authoritarian crisis.
Absolutely fascist. Dark enlightenment is just a propagandist oxymoron to sell to the MAGA masses while the billionaires replace our republic with a plutocracy.
Scary stuff and, again, it is the Republicans who harp on the "deep state of Dems" who want to tear down democracy, yet, it is they who are embracing and promoting the very end of our democracy. They must be stopped. The Republicans hate our freedoms and have evil and inhumane goals for our country.
Um...where do we start? Trump wants to limit freedom of what the press writes, wants to jail those who are critical of him. Wants to confiscate trusts of universities. Wants to control what our schools teach. Ban books. Also, just read Project 2025 and the liberties it wishes to rescind.
Can someone with more of a clue than me explain what it is in human psychology that makes some people long to submit to an authoritarian ruler? Daddy issues? The autocrats bargain? Something else? It’s soo common and utterly alien to me.
Trying to look cool in that photo but just looks like the guy who is about to get kicked out of the Dungeons and Dragons game for making the female players uncomfortable.
Yarvin influenced Peter Thiel's beliefs - Thiel then indoctrinated his mark/mole/legend: JD Bowman/Hamel/Vance/et al. Yarvin is truly scary. He is disingenuous, by pretending to be nuanced but he still in the end, embraces authoritarianism. And, like Stephen Miller, he hates his own heritage/roots.
He critiques democracy as fundamentally flawed and inefficient favouring centralised CEO style governance where a sovereign authority rules unimpeded by populism, and yet he supports Trump, a democratically elected populist leader who thrives on democratic theatre.
I'm so glad you reposted this article, George! I found myself technically challenged and in a time crunch when I tried to do it but wanted as many eyes on this article as possible after I read it. I did post a couple of messages about this cat, though. J.D. backers are on the march to 2028.
These little boys want you to believe they have some new insight. It’s all the same insecurities and belligerence masked as “theory.” Same as Russia in 1917, same as Germany in the 1930’s… America is more than they can get their small little minds around so they will tear it down to feel power.
THAT TOADDD IS A FUCKINGGGG DEMONIC NUTTERRRR!!!!! THESE EMOTIONAL STUNTED TECH BRO SPOILED BRATTTSSS ARE GREEDY FILTHHHH WITH NO HUMAN DECENCY!!!! THESE MFERS THINK THE POOR SHOULD BE GROUND UP INTO FERTILIZER!!
Our societal future is at stake, yet the media's response either naive or wilfully ignorant. This is also part of Musk's accelerationism 101 and it's baffling that this is going unchallenged. This moment calls for vigilance and accountability.
Problem is these guys now have a foothold in US politics Thiel = JD Vance and the rest of the billionaire cabinet blindly follow. Add Musk and his international meddling in UK and German politics, ties to China and Russia, along with his “I know better EGO” and we see the “World Order Roman Empire”
And these guys admire the Roman Empire endlessly, because they always imagine themselves at the top of the heap. The rest of us sense that it won’t be that way for us.
The game of survivor, each is attempting to out game the other while they work together to undermine UK, Germany and the U.S. Putin, Zi and Orban are playing as well. Musk is probably the Most dangerous as he is inserting himself into fragile democracies. Germany, UK and U.S. for now.
Why the Guardian cedes real estate to lunatics like this is beyond me. Sure - let's "accelerate" democratic collapse into right wing libertarian autocracies run by tech-CEOs like Peter Theil or Elon Musk. Let's please push these fools back under their rocks where they belong.
He's an incel techbro that realized no matter how rich he became, how successful he became, he still wasn't going to get laid without paying for it........yet to other incels, he seems smart.
They are all poorly socialized incels, angry no one pays them any attention; so they fantasize about taking control. Destroy a country and its founding ideals? So what they say, what about my feels?
"Yarvin talked of the need to mobilise the base of the party – its ordinary supporters – in the service of the cause. Yarvin postulated this could be done with an app that supporters would download and take instructions from when opponents were identified."
“Caesarism implements ‘authoritarian one-man rule partially legitimized by necessity’ – that is, ‘the breakdown of republican, constitutional rule’, adding that ‘a nation no longer capable of ruling itself must yet be ruled’.”
ie Yarvin et al destroy democracy then swoop in as autocratic saviors🤦🏻♀️
This guy Yarvin is an anti democratic nut. The Guardian article is a must read as Yarvin is supported by some trump appointees. When he is asked how an autocrat could justify an authoritarian takeover, Yarvin says he could declare a “national emergency “. Sound familiar?
Problem is they are organizing and have tremendous wealth beyond US borders. This is going to be more than just a U.S. problem with them. I guess Musk is positioning himself as their “World Leader”
It's the nature of fascism to get ever more extreme until the most ruthless extremist comes to the top. I thought it would be Vance, now I think Musk, but it hardly matters the direction is the same.
Not Monarchy cause it's not hereditary, so fascism. It seems like the vision is pretty much the same as Putin's w the diff that Putin controls his oligarchs, not the other way around.
What the relgious aspect will be, lots of talk about Christian Nation, not a lot of Christians in charge though.
This is absolutely frightening sounds like the so called warriors of freedom are going to smash everyone's freedom except their own....returning to the dark ages
Making fun of Yarvin's appearance is completely unnecessary. You should be making fun of his writing.
His prose is as purple as the lingering viscera of a horse put in a hydraulic press. He is so pedantic he thinks he invalidated Liberal Democreacy according to the sensibilities of low-rent nobles.
A Charlie Manson look-alike minus the beard. Went to Brown then CAL-Berkeley. He's figured out that there's tons of money to be made by being a "stupid person's idea of what a smart person sounds like". Therefore, sure to be considered an Intellectual Giant at Texas A&M.
Yarvin Musk Thiel Vance and many in the R Party have figured out, some time ago now, that there's big money and/or power to be had subverting America. It's all they've got. Shared Kremlin objectives.
If one takes a wider view of all those public and obscure right wing nutters, am I the only getting a strong revenge-of-the-radicalized-incelnerds vibe? Including Elmo Space Karen Musk.
Basically, throw out the courts, destroy the universities, burn down the government, and declare a single leader. Including a convenient app to help direct all the shovel-headed MAGA Brown Shirts willing to do the bidding of these white douche-canoes. New Nazis.
The second Trump term was the biggest chance these geeks would ever have to realize their megalomanic fantasies, and Elon is blowing it. They are likely to blame him for everything.
These people. So desperate to replace the existing power structure, but offer no hint of what the alternative looks like in practice. The fact is, they dare not, or the people would recognise it for the hell that it is.
They explain their alternative explicitly in great detail for anyone willing to listen. But the people they count on voting for it don't really believe it will happen and vote for lower egg prices or because they say mean things about immigrants or owning the libs.
As far as I can tell, they’ve laid out a short-term plan of action, which many have bought into, but I’ve not seen any attempt to lay out a long-term vision of the kind of society they see emerging from the ashes of this one. That’s the hell I’m talking about.
Yarvin and other "philosophers" of the NRx/Dark Enlightenment have written an incredible amount about long term goals. And their big money followers like Theil are already starting to lay the groundwork. See the "network states" concept as an example.
I don't think there's a majority or even a decent size minority that willingly would, at least intentionally. And those that would vote for people wanting to destroy it probably don't believe they actually can.
It’s true, it was laid out, but not the general public. There was a book that foretold it as far back as 1997 - The Sovereign Individual, by William Rees-Mogg and James Dale Davidson - and now it’s coming to pass.
Yes, I agree. The Breitbart crowd is pretty familiar with the NRx movement. Unfortunately, the left/center hasn’t gotten caught up to speed on what’s going on yet.
That’s my point. If they were forced to lay out the long-term vision to the masses, people would see that it leads to hell. The frustration is that that’s not happening.
Fair point. My only hope is that people would see it as a hellscape & not tricked into seeing it only being shitty for the “other” which often leads to buy in for these crazy ideas.
It's the money that makes him dangerous. Otherwise he'd just be another incel living in his mother's basement. It's sounds like he wasn't really that good as a coder; didn't have much relevance until he started writing this resentment fueled trash that resonates with so many tech types.
This is the same guy who said certain people should be converted into biofuel for muni buses, but then quickly "clarified" it could not be done because people would not want to sit on a bus fueled by humans. Another trash person with trash thoughts.
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I’d give my right private part to debate a clown like him.
We’ve all met these types of “intellectuals.”
They want your children straight, white, armed and angry.
MAGA must Lie, Cheat and Steal! Abortion. Guns. Equality. End Christian nationalism!Maga is the CONFEDERACY!! https://www.npr.org/2022/06/02/1102621352/how-the-southern-baptist-convention-covered-up-its-widespread-sexual-abuse-scand
Its also interesting to see the obvious self hate- which goes back to the unwanted birth suspicion.
My hope is that we wake up and see what is happening before it evolves into a full blown authoritarian crisis.
All ready made with 1,900,000 available slave workers sitting there in prisons.
Say it with me…
“Fascist”
Adding “red” far-right politics to it makes it plain fascism.
This is their revenge.
The ultimate TTRPG player.
Everyone should get to know his twisted justifications so they know them when they see them
caesar
/sē′zər/
noun
Used as a title and form of address for Roman emperors.
A dictator or autocrat.
Total Presidential Immunity Mr. Biden... What's Not to Like?
Bet most never even heard of Yarvin, who just helped get Trump elected
ie Yarvin et al destroy democracy then swoop in as autocratic saviors🤦🏻♀️
What the relgious aspect will be, lots of talk about Christian Nation, not a lot of Christians in charge though.
His prose is as purple as the lingering viscera of a horse put in a hydraulic press. He is so pedantic he thinks he invalidated Liberal Democreacy according to the sensibilities of low-rent nobles.
Jfc, this country is such a mess.
Here’s one of their “Rasputins,”
Curtis Yarvin, a vile human.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/21/curtis-yarvin-trump?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Is he the one that's really in charge?
Let's find out....memes in 321