They're really given 2 options here. Do what the court is clearly stating or do what we expect them to do. Lie, obfuscate, and stall. With their history of contemptuous behavior thus far, expecting the worse is a logical conclusion.
Trumpvision, your honour we managed to facilitate the release, upon exiting the prison compound, the subject was arrested by el Salvadorian police, we have no jurisdiction in this matter, we have facilitated the release as per order.
Obama needs to go to El Salvador and stand at the gates of that hell hole. I gotta admit I am pretty close to throwing Obama into the Schumer bucket....
El Salvador Sadistic Fascist President—Visiting White House Monday. Trump Told Court Returning Innocent Man Was A Security Threat-Can’t Explain How! Wonder WHY -Fascist El Salvadorian President—Doesn’t Have “AUTHORITY TO RELEASE AND RETURN HIS PRISONER”! —SECURITY RISK UNARMED CONTROLLED CIVILIANS!!
Thank you. Tennessee here with 4 daughters and I feel sick everyday waiting on our slow paperwork process to get us out of here. TN has gone full Christo-fascist. Come on Express Entry CA!
They are idiots if they take that route. It will keep this case in the headlines indefinitely. Evidently no one amongst these blithering idiots understands the concept of taking the loss and moving on.
SCOTUS, while providing Trump immunity believed he would respect their authority. The Judicial branch doesn’t seem to want to capitulate to him as Congress has done. It may be too late for them. Will Trump follow their order? That will be the stand off.
We need a leader to strategize and plan and communicate. I keep waiting for Hillz, or Obama, or another to step up and take on that role. Chris Murphy maybe. We are so spread apart that it’s hard to organize. We need to take to the streets and stay there. But it must be well organized and planned.
He's dead. So are many others. They don't care. They weren't in gangs. They didn't harm any Americans. They were unlucky enough to have the wrong skin tone. Period. This is not what America was founded on.
I hate to say it, but this man is probably dead, I hope not, but this looks like CYA to me. They’re spending a lot of resources to fight this, somethings definitely up and I feel terrible him and for his family, him being used for a sick twisted game!
The fact is the Supreme Court issued word salad on whether or not it remains illegal to round up Americans and fly them off to Gulags in other countries.
Will history echo with the United States as director of evils upon her own citizens?
LOCK THEM THE FUCK UP NOWFOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY OR SEND HIM TO THE HAGUE!!!!! HE STOLE BABIES OUT OF THEIR MOTHERS ARMS IN HIS FIRST TERM!!!!! 😈🤢🤡💩
I agree. But it can’t be investigated until we know if it happened. And if there is any chance to save him then establishing if he is alive now would put down a marker that questions will be asked.
😏🗯️Incarcerate TRUMP and his entire 47TH Administration to El Salvador: Inform Federal Judges scheduling future court date appearances to 2030 because the Courts are egregiously impacted with too many court dockets—delay, delay, delay, and delay.
"Facilitate", not "effectuate". Roberts will walk up to the line of confronting this criminal pig, but he will never walk over it. Because he knows he will lose. Trump will never bring this man back. It would open the flood gates to release others & it would allow this man to tell his tale.
If he is not returned to us forthwith, certain people need to be removed in the dark of night and whisked away to a foreign country. El Slavador is perfect for them. Let brown people rule over supreme white dumb a$$es for a change.
Seems the odds of him making it back alive are slim. Noem is to blame. She was there for a photo op after she knew he was there illegally and did nothing.
Solution : invite the president of El Salvador to the White House. Encourage him to refuse return of any prisoners. Make it an “other country problem”, and encourage defiance. Sick.
If the administration ignores the decision of the Supreme Court it will definitively mark the end of the American Democracy and ultimately likely result in the 2nd Civil War.
The administration is resisting this so hard it makes me wonder why. Is this man still alive? Is it because they don’t want their goal of being able to disappear all Americans with impunity? They’re working on their enemies list with the data that Musk has stolen. They will be coming for us.
Yep. Why would they give up the perfect weapon to terrorize the populace? They will fight forever to rendition whomever they want to hell without recourse, the innocent and guilty alike. Why would they easily give up this power to terrorize us,
I mean, Evil Noem, went there and posed in front of these poor. He stupid skinny assed shit face could go down and get him herself. She is a big POS and part of the giant pile of shit that makes up this administration. B
That Ice bitch doesn’t know what she’s doing! And she’s dangerous! Highly unqualified for her job! And a disgusting piece of shit to allow children to be pulled out of school and thrown into ice prisons with adults! Who the fuck does that? Traumatizing school children? You’re very low bitch!
I think her appearance and all her cosplay outfits and her looking like a “pretty ??” Middle aged white lady throws some people off but women can be psychopaths just like men and she clearly is one!!! And bad.
Well said. She's a dog killer and that whole story is very suspect. Second, her cosplay with her flak vest on and her hair extensions in front of illegally captured men is definitely warped. She lacks the ability to feel for others. Just like her master Trump.
It’s crazy to wear an outfit like that with long hair extensions, a ton of makeup, fake eyelashes, fake nails, a Rolex watch, and be such a dip shit that the gun she’s holding, is pointing it at the officer next to her! No one that knows what the hell they’re doing with that weapon, would do that!
I’m not sure why people were celebrating this SCOTUS decision—it seems to be doing as little as possible to oppose clearly unlawful (and evil) behavior.
The saving grace in all this may be the size of the egos on both sides. Roberts loves being a quasi-king, and kings don't usually like other kings on their turf.
We should never shut up about this. In fact, we should be so much louder. If we don’t do it for him and the others, who the hell would do it for us? It’s time.
Several reasons they are fighting this so much. For starters, they have no idea what condition he's in. He could be in terrible shape or even dead. Also, he's going to be talking when he gets back. He's going to have people offering him a book deal. SOO much will be revealed about the process
The question is just a matter of timing. Does the govt think they are sufficiently ready (via cleansing of disloyal people) to ignore the court orders. Or, do they believe they need more time?
Again, do we know if he is even still alive? They put him in there with people who wanted to kill him because he refused to join a gang and fled to the US.
Then we just get it out in the open, the opposite of law and order is anarchy, everyone’s afraid of it happening I’m just waiting for the exposure of it. God I hope it’s just the story he can tell that keeps them fighting his return.
It's troubling, though, that Judge Xinis wrote "as soon as possible."
That leaves DOJ, ICE, et al an out that they will surely exploit.
The Judge needs to set a date certain.
The lawlessness of this administration requires it.
So very sad.The most likely reason that the Trump regime won't return Abrego Garcia? The officials in El Salvador can't find him.He is in a prison where the inmates stay for life. No identification.Just thousands of bodies treated worse than animals. Welcome to Nazi America
Same As It Ever Was!..8^(
Its here. In a quantum world, you could say a "stand off is coming", and give it some probability statistical reference, but, like when you take the measure, painfully right on the chin, the results chrystalize immediately to a sharp point of certainty TRUMP STANDS AGAINST US ALL!
Are you serious? SCOTUS doesn't even dare to give a clear ruling in this case to make a contempt charge. Tonights "ruling" just shows that they did not have the courage or decency to write a ruling that is beyond debate. Weak laws, a weak law enforcement and weak media is serving a weak population.
I get you. But "could" is a word that more and more feels like "you are smoked" since January 6 2021. The US is in big trouble. At best. Could ( there you have it again) very well be way beyond big trouble.
If by standoff, you mean that a flunky will hold a printed copy of this order while Trump drops his pants and jang-a-langs his toad-shaped dong at it, then you're probably correct.
The tide will change the moment Congress & the Senate say out loud that trump must be removed. It will get ugly af for a short time, but it *has* to happen. Other than assassination(s), it is the *only* way the regime gets stopped. The sooner it happens, the fewer people will be harmed.
I agree that would be better. But *how* the remaining government (actual, not regime) handles the assassination, and any civil unrest because of it, could be the same show of stability, as well as demostrating true allegience to democracy.
That's one route. But that will require vance or trump's doctor to initiate. It seems the cult-like terror/reward system that keeps them 'loyal' could just as easily be used to flip that loyalty. But that would require people with regular, close contact to either or both.
I’m sorry but, so what? He’s ignoring every ruling anyway, what makes you think he’ll start now. Law has failed. The ONLY remaining chance for stopping him is the non-compliance of the military when he calls them in - and I am in no way confident of that.
He’s been busy removing military commanders- Col Susannah Meyers was just removed from her post in Greenland. My confidence is dropping that those remaining will be non-compliant.
The playbook of authoritarian regimes is to disappear people. The last thing they want is a martyr. The nazis just vanished neighbors to rumors/whispers --but no one knew for sure. The admin will hold a middle finger to SCOTUS because the alternative is worse than defying the a court order.
Standoff? The corrupt Trump regime will stonewall for months before the right wing of the Court gives more than a Susan Collins hand-wring.
They aren't ordering the administration to return him. They are ordering them to report back that they are trying to secure his release from El Salvador.
It will be several more rounds of this before the right wing of SCOTUS cares, because this was carefully crafted to give the Trump regime lots of room to do virtually nothing without running afoul of the order. SCOTUS is giving Trump time to complete his coup before it is declared a genuine crisis.
Aren't there any fired and angry special agents who could help with this?? "If the law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it - he is obligated to do so."
Didn’t this court rule that a president could commit crimes when acting as a president? I’ll be curious to find out what that means when push comes to shove.
Sorry but I don’t think he is alive anymore. Hence WH dragging their feet. El Salvador wanted him and Yippy dippy helped them out. How else do you find a dad in Maryland to deport?
Yes, it is. I'm out here screaming into the void. This judge needs to impose sanctions if not some prison time to anyone that comes before and can't even answer basic questions, like where is he right now! I'm betting ICE can't say because he has been assassinated in custody!
Trump has never complied with any court order until someone shows up with a gun or threatens to go after his assets. I don't think the Supreme Court has an armed team that can go to the white house and force compliance, so I this order isn't even worth the pdf it's printed on.
A lot of people, especially kids, disappeared the first Trump time, never to be found again. This is more of the same and Trumps admin thought it would be just as easy. There is a very dark part of the world people that don't have a country to fight for them go. Pizzagate was another projection.
They can't get him back because he is already dead. Remember that he was an El Salvador citizen and here under a protective order issued in 2019. A judge agreed he was in danger returning home. Trump traded him to the El Salvador government. This was no error. They're afraid that will come out
They don’t want to bring him back because they NEVER admit they’re wrong, and that would be undoing something that they did wrong.
He may be dead. AND if not, they certainly don’t want lawsuits or George Floyd type protests movement, OR him going on 60 Minutes etc telling of conditions there.
I think him getting on 60 minutes is their biggest fear. He would be able to tell them about the process and abuse as well as maybe names of other disappeared individuals.
Doesn’t matter what the deal is at this point we need to fight now this is one of most serious things they are doing to us if they can do it to Kilmer they can do it to any of us we can’t allow our right to do process slip away because it happened to an “other”
DonOld the felon would always say that by coming after him, the Justice Department could charge any of us! By the same logic, being disappeared to a foreign prison for profit, could happen to you or I as well!
This is exactly what I’ve been saying this whole time.
This POS administration will see their day in court and will be held accountable.
The world is WATCHING!!
One can only hope🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼
Remember, the GOP is trying to put into effect (through the new budget bill) the diminishment of Judicial Authority so that they cannot rule against this “administration” 🤦🏻♀️
How has this not started a bigger backlash? I cant imagine just sitting and following from the benches when real people are being illegally kidnapped and sent to inhumane prisons far away...
Straight from a horror movie!
Was BLM enough for lasting change? We need to rebuild the broken boat of democracy, not just patch every hole with gum and hope a tyrant doesnt come again!
I agree, I just fear that the social tear is so big now that normal policy isnt working. I have hope for the midterms but thats still far away and people are getting riled up as we speak. I just hope people dont get violent even though I sympathize with the urges
Tbh my emotins say to do something very illegal, but my logical side sees thst that will only lead to more chaos and violent actions in return. Build a movement, community and make sure that everyone hears the message. Dont let our "leaders" turn a blind eye. Make them hear and force them to action!
Because no one cares when people of color are brutalized, maimed or killed. Us dying is entertainment for racists, we're lower than animals for them whether we are here legally or not. If this was being done to white people trending hashtags would be up in a few hours.
True and its sickens me to the core! Its vile how so many people can just turn a blind eye, choose to ignore and be passive against other people/cultures. SICK!
She needs to cosplay her dumb ass bitch costume and go back down to El Salvador. If that means she has to beg Bukele, please someone record that. I will play it on a loop. If they need a prisoner swap, throw her in. 😡
So Kristi Himmler would rather argue in court over a WORD!!! then retrieve an innocent man from an El Salvador jail !!! And most of those sent there are innocent !! USA has lost their moral compass ! no better than Russia or Nth Korea !!
It's already over, he has no intention of honoring that.
They supported him all in, now they push back, they'll be first to enter the "showers" as a show of his strength.
One might argue that was the entire point of the exercise
Look if I were that guy and I truly wasn’t in the TDA gang before, he’s now buying a Punisher T-shirt and some specialized tools to make sure the people who put him there understand just how he feels. And could anyone blame him ?
With Trump, the Supreme Court ignores the 'Break Glass" in case of a fire.
Roberts seems to think that by delaying the obvious, Trump will lighten up. Roberts will do anything to keep the fantasy of a 'Nation of Laws' alive, even tho he shares responsibility for an "immune" pres who destroys it.
Noem, Trump, Vance, Bessent, Miller, Rubio, Musk.... I think we can easily come up with 200 magas who are guilty of real crimes to send down there in exchange for the mostly innocent Venezuelans that have been sent to that prison to rot.
Yes it is. Especially with the phrase "...as soon as possible" thrown in there. This gives Donald's regime a way out of complying any time soon. Expect, "we've got the best people working on it. These things take time..." plus lame excuse and a deflection or two from the regime.
I honestly didn’t know El Salvador was this fucked up. I realize we are well and truly fucked up w Dimfuck but I guess El Salvador wasn’t really on my radar for whatever reason. No idea how bad it is there. :(
We should already be popping off because there is no evidence shown that ANYONE had cause to go to El Salvador. If u deport u deport people back to their homeland. Not to a prison.
What about the gay hairdresser that had a rainbow autism tattoo? There is not just one person illegally held in a foreign death camp. Every single person needs brought back. We need flight manifests of passengers, every person deserves a PUBLIC hearing and legal rep.
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Yes, all those people according to 60 minutes report (75% no record). This is modern Nazi death camps for no reason other than brown. Only dictatorships revoke papers then imprison. They can do it to any of us which is why the sooner we stop this the better it is.
A million percent. Being in the USA undocumented is a CIVIL crime. Not a criminal one so to send them to death camps for that is insane. A lot of these people were working with their immigration contacts, checking in, doing everything they were supposed to.
Yes they literally rounded up legal immigrants to send to death camps and now going through students for visa revocation.👹👹👹 Detaining tourists from European countries in terrible conditions for weeks does not help either.😐 Now thought police going through devices. Tech bros helping correlate info.
That's right. There's no excuse for doing this in the first place, and no excuse for not making it right ASAP.
This is a standoff and I have a feeling of dread as a lawyer, watching SCOTUS enable the govenment's fascist actions.
If the government isn't forced to return this man, our country is lost.
That is the truth. It's the worst sign for me, other than SCOTUS judges who are drinking the Kool Ade. Big law is apparently no stranger to representing some ugly clients.
It's disappointing to see them bending the knee so quickly to someone who they know is wrong. Anyone who went to law school can
see laws broken, court orders being violated, as well as civil rights ignored. It's horrible to see the judiciary collapsing like that. It's only these judges who have the courage to rule against the crooked administration that give me hope.
Watching SCOTUS is the most disappointing.
We have to stay on the government until he is returned.
People need to realize that if it happens to him, it will happen to anyone.
Remember the poem about " ...and then they came for me."?
That's where we are. We're here seeing this, and we have to stop it.
A thousand percent. I love to read and have read extensively on WW2 Sophie scholl, how even the Jewish leader worked with hitler thinking it would not get worse. It always does. He’s moving at the same pace as hitler - both on amphetamines
Martin Niemöller would be raking in the royalties nowadays. It's probably the best distillation of creeping authoritarianism's effect on the collective psyche of a nation being destroyed by its own government.
The problem (for them) is that if he’s dead, that will not only spark pushback from the populace, with proof this is a concentration camp…. But who will go quietly from now on, only to be shipped to their death anyway?
I am deeply worried Abrego Garcia, and many of the men kidnapped, may already have been killed - beaten to death or tortured in that El Salvador prison - horrifying to even imagine. And now Khalil, the Columbia student, is to be deported?? Our country is disgusting-I feel so helpless. Wake up people
I don’t think any of these men are alive. This is a concentration camp. They were sent there to be killed, as a test run, and the Nazi Regime wants to hide it.
Where is the proof of life?
They know he’s gone. And they know if it’s revealed he’s (they are) dead, no one is going quiet anymore.
SCOTUS sends back for (dictionary?) definition by the district court.
"facilitate".
District court wants affidavit by 9:30 am as to:
who is prisoner
where is he held
what are you doing to bring him back when?
..conflict with secret federal... ? Well, at least let us know what you will be doing.
All of these judges are useless. They write stuff and nothing happens. Every single one of them has gone up against Trump and lost. He gets away with everything.
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This makes me feel sick to the stomach...
Good Americans - I (and I am sure many others from the UK) stand with you. Republicans: get in the fucking bin.
In fact, I think even his followers are beginning to see what's happening... slowly...
[Kilmar Armando] Abrego Garcia
Alive or dead.
Hope SCOTUS does the right thing.
There's no excuses left.
Oh yeah; and impeach Trump!
I really hope he’s well and safe. This is horrible.
Will history echo with the United States as director of evils upon her own citizens?
Is torture next? Republican Nazi 2.0 is here
Trump administration will lose.
Return all these kidnapped people!
Human trafficking is illegal!
TAKE THAT HO BAG FOR ALL HER $$$ IN CIVIL COURT
Does anyone remember him?
Until the courts have teeth, the regime will continue to trod over them.
We are past the standoff, hopefully a new union will arise, but brace for worst timeline: civil war. #2ndAmendment #RepublicHasFallen
The Supreme Court had a hand creating this monster, now they need to put out the fire and fast.
and if that doesn’t work … unplug the MF.Additionally, US taxpayers are paying for both sides of this.
It’s a human rights violation and a colossal waste of money.
That leaves DOJ, ICE, et al an out that they will surely exploit.
The Judge needs to set a date certain.
The lawlessness of this administration requires it.
Same As It Ever Was!..8^(
1. This.
2. The measles outbreak.
The government will almost certainly lie in both cases and the press should be relentlessly prodding and probing to get to the truth.
Criminal contempt must be enforced through the Criminal Justice authority of the Executive Branch. Which means Bondi & Patel can interfere or decline.
Currently, judicial scholars are having significant discussion about the mechanisms of civil contempt.
‘The courts have spoken’: Lawyer for Md. man held in Salvadoran prison speaks out
https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/exclusive-kilmar-abrego-garcias-lawyer-says-the-law-was-on-our-side-in-supreme-court-order/
They aren't ordering the administration to return him. They are ordering them to report back that they are trying to secure his release from El Salvador.
Expose tyranny
It's literally where he polls the strongest.
They don't hide their racism & bigotry.
make some effort
say you tried
say we made a call
they said no
there's nothing more we can do
case closed
It will bring even more out in the streets, and shine a kleig light on their lawlessness.
He may be dead. AND if not, they certainly don’t want lawsuits or George Floyd type protests movement, OR him going on 60 Minutes etc telling of conditions there.
We are ONE and need to start ACTING LIKE IT YESTERDAY!
2.They are fearful of what he may say to the public when released.
Neither look is good for them.
So they’re stalling 🤨
This POS administration will see their day in court and will be held accountable.
The world is WATCHING!!
Remember, the GOP is trying to put into effect (through the new budget bill) the diminishment of Judicial Authority so that they cannot rule against this “administration” 🤦🏻♀️
He refuses to comply, gives that smarmy grin of his that says, "Who's gonna make me?"
And no one ever does; he is above the law.
America is a failed experiment due to greed.
"The love of money is the root of ALL evil."
My family is dying of hunger. 😔💔
Our children are dying of hunger. 😔💔
The crossings are closed, and aid has stopped."
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Please don't ignore me please
Straight from a horror movie!
Political unrest is expressed through gathering & marching.
They supported him all in, now they push back, they'll be first to enter the "showers" as a show of his strength.
One might argue that was the entire point of the exercise
Roberts seems to think that by delaying the obvious, Trump will lighten up. Roberts will do anything to keep the fantasy of a 'Nation of Laws' alive, even tho he shares responsibility for an "immune" pres who destroys it.
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This is a standoff and I have a feeling of dread as a lawyer, watching SCOTUS enable the govenment's fascist actions.
If the government isn't forced to return this man, our country is lost.
It's disappointing to see them bending the knee so quickly to someone who they know is wrong. Anyone who went to law school can
Watching SCOTUS is the most disappointing.
People need to realize that if it happens to him, it will happen to anyone.
Remember the poem about " ...and then they came for me."?
That's where we are. We're here seeing this, and we have to stop it.
1. Request copy of birth certificate via county registrar office
2. File for Passport on line or in person. 6-10 week lag time. You'll also need a Passport photo. Available at CVS and Walgreens.
3. Apply for a Real ID. at the DMV
Where is the proof of life?
They know he’s gone. And they know if it’s revealed he’s (they are) dead, no one is going quiet anymore.
"facilitate".
District court wants affidavit by 9:30 am as to:
who is prisoner
where is he held
what are you doing to bring him back when?
..conflict with secret federal... ? Well, at least let us know what you will be doing.
Just watch them try some dumb stuff like that