Regardless of how you feel about the platform, it's a really bad and terrifying thing that happened, that a government can abuse its power to such an extent, especially in a country that has much of its population fooled into thinking it's a free country.
also about the mental health I would say it's probably possible to find a way to make tiktok better for attention span without banning it, I myself don't use it but I would never be happy about censorship and people losing a creative job
exactly. the same being coming to bluesky from twitter and being upset about having to start over are the same people praying on tiktok's downfall like it's not the same thing
no it's fine that millions of people have lost their voice and connection to current world events because like 7 years ago there was a trend there that made me do a big cringe
Celebrating the government censoring one of the few platforms that allowed people to speak out against genocide without being suppressed is a weird move ngl
Saying "good, the app sucks" in front of the tiktok ban is similar to saying "can't handle free speech?" when Zuckerberg or Musk allow racism and transphobia on their platforms
Bruh people are getting mad over this one. Like I'm sure this post aint this deep. Everytime I use tiktok I lose track of time and I feel like absolute shit. It's designed to make you mad and waste your time. It's really a drug. So like, good for you if you found your career or found out about 1/
stuff that happened in palestine thanks to this app, but don't pretend you haven't wasted hours on it as well. And it's not like there won't be a gajillion other apps to replace it if it were to get permanently banned. Which of course it won't because US politics is a reality TV show. 2/
And again, I don't understand getting mad at meg for this post. Straight up saying "Wow you're celebrating people loosing their career??" Like no wtf that's not what she said??
i get that for some people it was good for free speech & making money, but from what i gather it was a very negative environment that perpetuated ridiculous amounts of consumerism and fucked up people's attention spans..
anyway itll probably be brought back as a political pr move
and encouraged people to do dumb things like mix various household chemicals to make "homemade cleaning solutions" that most of the time created deadly concoctions such as mustard gas
People are convinced there is something magically significant that Tiktok did that doesn't exist anywhere else, or absurdly claim it is more immune to propaganda.
They don't want to admit that it's just a social media owned by billionaire megcorp that they prefer to the others twitter/youtube/etc
Which is fine. not gonna ick people's yum with the "No ethical consumption" drivel. Sorry if I'm being snide.
It's an observation of the latest generation dealing with losing a platform they grew up on, using the same coping mechanisms. Same chord, different rhythm.
As an educator who hates tiktok and is sick of seeing students on their phones...I honestly think it'll just be replaced by tiktok2 and still won't solve any fundamental problems. Plus the stupid reasons it was banned etc. but also like...yeah, I don't miss tiktok itself either lol
These are valid reasons to dislike tiktok, but i still think the ban is a net negative. I mean, artists of all mediums had their start there, and the ban could lead to the growth of objectivity more harmful platforms like twitter and insta, I woulda much rather lost one of those apps personally tbh
honestly i’m glad it’s still active in the EU because it changed my life for the better, i’ve been using it since 2019 and i met so many cool people and learned so much life changing advice from others. i agree that it can be brainrotty and negative if its not curated properly
the only thing that’s changing is the platform, people will move somewhere else and i hope the algorithm of the new app won’t be controlled by an outside party with other ideas (cough US government cough)
instagram reels is absolutely terrible and complete brainrot, so maybe things will change?
There's nothing really exclusive to TikTok that can't be used to criticise most social media platforms also. Misinformation, targetted ads and grifting is rife on Twitter, Youtube, Facebook too. Even Bluesky. Banning one won't stop others doing it.
considering it was only banned as a political stunt in the first place...and the timing of the ban relative to the inauguration. I fully expect it to be gone less than a month
Eh leafy used it mainly to look at cat vids, gaming clips, vtubers, and find music, like yesterday leafy found Imperium by STIM which is a pretty epic song
I'm sorry, but no. The millions who made their living through the platform now have to scramble to make money another way. (Especially coming from an artist on the internet) And this take sounds like someone who has never used the app making an assumption about its content/users.
People will just move on to consume their brain rot content elsewhere, there's plenty of it on instagram and youtube, meanwhile this sets a precedent for the president to ban more things just because he's a racist and he feels like banning it
Its more like
Them chinese commies gather your personal information with caterpilar 6090, like facebook does, like google does, like anything does, lets ban this particular app instead of outlawing gathering such information
It'd be beneficial for you to look into the TikTok ban more & the political PR motives behind the ban. You have the right to call a ban based (I agree with your points, too!). Still, it's critical to understand that these motives were practically never about combatting these very real problems.
Man this is the L-est take someone ever had. I understand where you are coming from but I think you should look into this situation more and get a better understanding
I like that we now trust the media telling us stuff is bad because we don't like the stuff. I guess video games cause violence, rock music is satanic, and TV is the devil too. Moron.
No, I trust studies into the effects of shortform contenr and skinner boxes on the human brain and see how the app utilizes One More Video tactics to ensure this cycle continues.
Why do you feel the need to immediately treat me as beneath you. Very rude.
I feel like you just don't understand why people are mad about the tiktok ban, yes there are people mad that they can't get their brain rot content anymore which i do agree that constant short-term content is bad for you 1/3
but the main reasons why people are mad about it is because why is the government taking a SOCIAL MEDIA away from its civilian, especially when this specific social media has spend the most awareness about issues about Gaza, trump's wrong doing, the government's wrong doings etc. 2/3
like, i don't think I've seen a worse take on this besides the usual "i never used it so therefore im ok with this"
you completely ignored the ACTUAL main issues we have with the ban
and sure it SOUNDS like its pretty much all negativity there, but trust me, thats just all you hear about it-
sure, there is absolutely a lot of negativity on tiktok. but all of the wonderful people COMPLETELY outweigh it, but all any media ever covers is the bad side. if you want to talk about an ACTUAL spawn from social media hell, loom no further than Instagram Reels. except i wouldnt even doubt that-
its actually a nice place, all things considered, and that all anybody talks about from it is just how fucking rude and horrible people are there. nobody talks about how "nice" a community is unless its comparing to a very similar platform (ex. bsky vs twitter, tiktok vs rednote, 4chan vs anything)
just because *you* think that tiktok isn't a very good platform, that does not mean that this is an absolutely horrible fucking decision from our god-awful government. please educate yourself on the actual issues behind this before making a public post about it next time.
it’s not that tiktok was “good for free speech” necessarily, it’s that banning it is a clear indicator of censorship. it’s fascism and suppressing freedom of speech happening in real time. ik this is just a joke-y post but hopefully that explains why people are kinda sensitive about this topic!
and you’re right! it will be brought back as a political PR move once it’s bought by an American company, and right-wing billionaires are able to censor people speaking up about Palestine. that’s pretty much why it got banned in the first place
It also made my health issues a nightmare. A doctor told me that my health issues are "made up by tiktok" (it's a disease that I was diagnosed with before tiktok existed). The sheer amount of damage it's done for people with less common health issues is insane.
I mean it fucked up people’s attention spans but yt and other platforms have short form content similar to tiktok too so that’s not really a positive reason for it to be banned. It was really only banned not only cuz it spread information on the genocide in Gaza but because it’s a Chinese company.
so does any social platform, let's not just blame the latest one, MySpace had shit like this too but again media wasn't as advanced as it is today so it didn't go as viral as fast. TikTok was great for a lot of folks and imo had more pros than cons.
Banning it was never about how it was supposedly harmful for the individual user, but rather allegedly how it was a "national security risk." I do agree that platforms like it are overall negative places, but action should be done against that, not because its a supposed "national security risk."
And when I mean action against that, I mean the root of what can allow these platforms to become to attentive grabbing. Banning a particular platform or another would just be attacking the symptoms or effects of the root issue.
"You love waffles? Surely you must hate pancakes and want them dead in the street"
No one ever said anything about celebrating lost careers. Go outside, guys, it's time.
It was never about mental health and attention spans. Claiming that tiktok is a security threat while being perfectly fine with American companies owning all our data, right at the time tiktok was a huge source for first hand information on Palestine, and giving Trump the perfect opportunity to 1/2
save the app and act as the hero is another obvious example of dems acting in favor of fascists and ceos. "lol get banned I don't like the app" is the stupidest take you could have about all this 2/2
Regardless of the bad things that tik tok causes, I don't think social media apps should be banned under the false guise of national security when it's clearly just because it's an alternative media outlet since other Chinese apps like Temu aren't banned
The US government being able to do something like this should be incredibly concerning because what's stopping them from shutting down Bluesky, Twitter, Instagram, etc. just because they don't like what's on there?
bro I didn't even use tiktok that much (if at all) but like.......ur take is just lowkey mid. I think it really sucks that ppl are gen upset that its gone
It is just a bit hypocritical to use the consumerism card while selling an oc piece of digital art to the highesr bidder. I hope this didn't sound rude, as it is not my intention
A number of the creators I followed there pointed out it helped launch their careers. One became a full time musician. One became an author. So uh, yeah it kind of is a loss.
OTOH, TikTok contained absolutely titanic volumes of misinfo and hate speech, and absolutely damaged a ton of peoples attention spans
OTOH, a lot of the politicians who supported the ban explicitly did so out of racism against China and fear of the prevalence of Pro-Palestine messaging
like youre fucking laughing at at time when 5 million Americans just lost a source of income
like this is like me laughing because patreon got banned.
go take a fucking walk and re-evaluate your self
how are you even equating the needs of the middle class, who the majority of which are lgbtq+, POC, or disabled, to the needs of individuals that are the arms of the state and enforce facism? Like are you that fucking dense? Or are you trying to be snide because you wanna dick ride this artist?
I don't like TikTok, but this is such a fucked take. Yeah I love when the government takes away entire social media sites because they don't get to control the media flow or sell your data themselves. What a brazenly undemocratic thing to do in a country that boasts its democracy and freedom...
I'm the first person in three generations of my family that didn't get a security clearance from the Federal government of the USA. I would never get it because it has always been a threat to my family's safety and it has never really been a secret in the news, either. Sucks people ignored facts.
It was one of the main places I saw people like me being able to share information with each other. Main place I hung out for socialization for a few years post pandemic.
This just seems like bait, so I'm not gonna start some discourse for your benefit.
All I'll say is that this affects marginalized groups (not excluding your audience, I'm sure) in that it was their only voice that was untouched by the mainstream media.
that’s where i met my IRL fiancé and best friends, and made my entire livelihood while waiting for a disability case for almost a year and a half bc other platforms suppressed my content and if i work i die bc of said disability…… but LMAOOOO it’s so funny that people are freaking out over an app
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The banning of it is an entirely political move by people who want to control information
anyway itll probably be brought back as a political pr move
They don't want to admit that it's just a social media owned by billionaire megcorp that they prefer to the others twitter/youtube/etc
It's an observation of the latest generation dealing with losing a platform they grew up on, using the same coping mechanisms. Same chord, different rhythm.
instagram reels is absolutely terrible and complete brainrot, so maybe things will change?
What? Shut up.
It's an app. People chose to use it.
Now that it's banned, the only thing that will change is which app they replaced it with.
Tiktok might not have done anything good, but it wasn't doing bad against the user's will.
Them chinese commies gather your personal information with caterpilar 6090, like facebook does, like google does, like anything does, lets ban this particular app instead of outlawing gathering such information
They scroll all day long
Meanwhile TikTok and other shortform content has.
and then people go "But I like the thing that rots my brain; it trains me to like the brain rotting!!!!"
Why do you feel the need to immediately treat me as beneath you. Very rude.
you completely ignored the ACTUAL main issues we have with the ban
and sure it SOUNDS like its pretty much all negativity there, but trust me, thats just all you hear about it-
Also 'attention span' is pseduoscience. Psychology uses attention models and it's notoriously difficult to put a timer on attention.
Your art is really cute so this is honestly pretty sad to see from you
No one ever said anything about celebrating lost careers. Go outside, guys, it's time.
OTOH, a lot of the politicians who supported the ban explicitly did so out of racism against China and fear of the prevalence of Pro-Palestine messaging
like this is like me laughing because patreon got banned.
go take a fucking walk and re-evaluate your self
which is a source of income
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Don't nit pick my talking points peckerwood.
im not dick riding anyone either lol, i just support this artist cuz i like what they make
So uh...yeah...
Glad I'm not the only one feelin this way. Thanks for the laugh
absolute drain on society
All I'll say is that this affects marginalized groups (not excluding your audience, I'm sure) in that it was their only voice that was untouched by the mainstream media.
If you're okay with that, then so be it.
But there's plenty other things happening in the USA that are more worth discussing. So it is what it is.