It sucks cause I think the last anime I watched was like cyberpunk edgerunners some 28 months ago, and I tuned into this one because of the intro and the aliens & ghosts and now I’m getting lumped in with that crowd lol
I don’t know if it’s fair, but I blame AoT and SAO for that. Two shows that had weird fascist elements that took off at the same time and built a mainstream anime audience that was comfortable with that type of behavior. Now we have to fight tooth and nail to keep any good anime out of their vision.
Lmao no
4chan started in the late 90s early 2000s as an anime discussion forum and very quickly became a nazi site because of the overlap between anime fans on the internet and racists
As an Aot fan, the show really tries to put the point that facism and prejudice is wrong but once racist and Nazis got ahold of aot, it just became hell dude😭
Something something Carl Schimts something imperialism something.
If you'd like to continue this then I'd suggest making a separate post and pinging me in it so poor @/bug fancier doesn't need to deal with potential white noise in their replies.
But like that doesn’t matter to those people, the fact that people like Eren were through out the series shown cool and badass is enough for them, like they tried to remedy it a bit at the end to make it more apparent youre not supposed to like him but damage was alr done
I would disagree there actually, I don't think Eren was ever protrayed as that cool, or even correct. He was simply powerful and held a strong conviction, and at the beginning had a reasonable (if violent) goal. The problem was the audience that liked him until the end maintained that view of
it doesnt help that theres a sub industry of fantasy manga/anime that whitewashes slavery by advertising it as "check out this cute waifu that i legally own isnt that great"
I wonder when people will realize this is Japanese cultural rot and westoids have very little to do with it. Miyazaki nailed it when he pointed out that anime went from being made by people with diverse life experiences to bring made by basement dwellers that only consumed anime.
Japanese cultural rot and western cultural rot are cut from the same rotting cloth. They may be different in terms of, like, where they come from, but ultimately, it's cultural misogyny all the way down. And like, they're consuming the same media lmao.
Yes but also no. East Asia is basically an incel autonomous zone now. Being an incel is considered far more socially normal in Japan/China/SK. American entertainment writing also isn't dominated by incels.
I'm aware of that, but its not like they're pioneering incel technology or something. It can be argued that incel/manosphere culture directly affected the US 2024 election.
Also a longtime reader but I haven't had the chance to tune in on the anime yet (catching up on work and my kids have highjacked the tv for Bluey). What's wrong with the fandom?
I second this question. I knew nothing about this show and am not a huge anime fan, but my kid made me watch it and now, I’m weirdly invested and we’re going to start reading the manga together.
The fandom is pretty racist and engages in a lot of verbal abuse and bullying. Pretty much if you don’t praise the show constantly and exclusively ship Momo/Okarum you’ll be eaten alive.
I argue that you can, just keep away from bad fans, block em and don't engae with them, its not worth it.
Hang out and build comunity with good fans and don't give toxic assholes the time of day.
Oh for sure. I don’t mingle with those toxic people at all. It’s just a shame that people turn something good into something so negative time and time again.
I've found that the best way to interact with Fandom is to try and get into it with close friends. That way you can talk about the cool thing you all like and vet that they probably won't be a dick about it.
I think there's going to be a sort of withdrawal from the internet with the enshittification of it and we're going to end up in a time of small niche groups that may start online but eventually migrate off, because obviously it's not healthy how the internet has integrated with our social lives.
Fandoms in general just kinda suck tbh. For something meant to be enjoyed, a lot of people choose not to enjoy it. My wife reads the manga and I watch the anime (with lots of spoilers she can’t help but tell someone) and it seems like a fun story. People just suck.
yeah if you get obsessed with any series the trick is to find 1 cool person who likes the same characters as you and bounce ideas back and forth with them for years
After they attacked the 16 year old on Twitter I’m totally done with the show it made made me sick to my stomach actually seeing thousands upon thousands attack her😭
I don't want to say fandoms are "worse" now because i think fandoms have always been terrible, but fandom has definitely become way more reactionary. It's like when Dungeon Meshi was just a manga and had a massive queer fanbase and then when the anime came out it was invaded by anti-queer racists.
I've only met queer dungeon meshi fans for the most part. I did join this discord a bit back though and the members are a bit.. gross. I don't even understand how that anime appeals to those people it makes no sense its so queer
To be fair, in DM the whole Farcille ship was nonexistent during the run of the manga, as everyone was too focused on the story for it, while in the anime fandom it seems to be everything people talk about, which got annoying really fast, more so since Mar is canonically straight and semi-asexual.
this is absolutely not true. farcille was the biggest ship in the fandom back when the manga released. i wasnt even a fan of the series at the time and even i remember people saying falin and marcille were grilfriends.
I’ve been following the manga since chapter 30, and at least in my circles, discussions mostly focused on the ongoing plot and the various ways things could go right or wrong.
Well then that explains it. You didn’t notice because it was in your circles. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t a prominent thing in the fandom. Most people talked about the characters and ships, not where the plot was heading.
I'm at that point in my life where if I do end enjoy something I just straight up avoid any fandom like the plague. Because it's sadly become impossible to enjoy anything without it getting co opted by Alt Right chuds or hardcore shippers/antis.
Tell me about it. During the KickVic days on Twitter (Before Elon and X), I was constantly being harassed and/or delivering beatdowns to stupid chuds insistent that their fascist reading of the source material was the only correct one. They would harass VA's thinking it was a conspiracy. Crazy shit.
I've been in fandoms all my life and honestly, they are all both wonderful, and the worst cesspools.
I think the biggest thing when in any fandom is to just curate your own experience. I know that my enjoyment of something doesn't reflect other fans bad traits on me. I'm just here to have fun!
I avoid fandoms like the plague-
More than once have they destroyed something i enjoyed watching
So now i just enjoy the things i like in my corner and from far away
It's frustrating too cause they do this whole "You guys are tourists BLARGH" shit and it's like shut up, you guys don't go to cons, weren't in the old forums or participating in circles before crunchyroll. We were always here.
They literally do nothing to sustain fandoms at all. Just watch a show, make shit worse, forget about it when it’s over/on hiatus and then find another fandom to jump on and ruin
Yeah it sucks. i used to interact with fandoms of media i liked but its just gotten to a point where i cant stand all the negativity thats constantly thrown around on forums.
At this point, i dont even talk about the things i like anymore online
Yeah, I definitely lived that as a Chainsaw Man fan. When the anime came out the fan base went from a kinda small place with nice people and lots of cool art to a cesspit of dumb arguments and unfunny memes.
Yeah this is part of why I don’t participate in fandoms any longer… it just becomes wading through a cesspool.
I just keep the discussion IRL among my friends and with folks at conventions! Someday soon, I’d like to be a little brave and reenter the online discourse on my terms
Oh! Oh! I will also add: I have never met a non-friendly anime fan at a rave or festival either! The sweetest weebs seem to be the nicest ravers, too 😹
Social Media as a whole is designed around promoting Engagement. Controversy, Conflict, that is what the Twitter Algorithm is optimized around cus it keeps people using the website forever.
this means that 'Fandom' doesnt exist on these platforms, nothings connecting anyone together except hate
Well, while im neutral on the inclusivity, the whithe /black washing, etc. I do understand that people should be left to enjoy what they like how they like.
That kinda is the double edged sword with fandoms. Either it remains ancillary and chill but no one else knows about this thing you like, or everyone knows about it but the fandom is also occupied by the worst people known to man.
i actually dont even agree because there are genuinely good fandoms out there. kagurabachi has a pretty sizeable fandom and the community pushes against toxicity and bullying. its just that most fandoms dont want to put in the effort to behave.
Warframe's is great for exemple. Their secret is quite simple: they curated their audience for years. Adding multiple queer rep, and standing their ground on it.
I'm not sure whether it's because of anime or because of a surge of popularity or the two in combination but yeah, it often seems like the transition from manga to anime seems to flood fandoms with terrible people
No no, it's correct. Present-day fandoms are shit.
Enjoying fiction isn't just a thing you do anymore. It's now a thing that must be actively used for either Profit, Clout, or both. If you don't consume it immediately and spew your response? You lose the views and the clicks. No Profit or Clout
Why don't the fash become interesting, fully individuated people and make their own media? Is being a well-rounded person anti-fascist? Lmao so disgusting I hate them
I assume dandadan has a lot of incel fans. Which probably is the same in JPN lol
As a person who has read one piece on release for -redacted- years, yea. Fandoms of anime only suck. (One piece has uhh 6 cannon lgbt characters?) And everyone wants to make politics about it
I think it's generally quite a V shape.
Super niche =cool people actually into the thing
The middle of mainstream niche =the psychos arrive and get off on being a fan of this niche thing.
Super mainstream =just like the general population. The idiots drift away as its not cool.
It’s genuinely bad, its been worse and worse since covid. Ive heard people say theres reasons why which make sense to me but its hard to really say at this point. Honestly it sucks
I wish i had the tiktok that someone made so i dont butcher it but it said that the more toxic environment online especially in fandom spaces is due to the mandatory online presence that being stuck in quarantine forced everyone to do. It caused the people who would “never” be online with queer ppl.
People say that shippers ruin fandoms but in my years of fandoms it’s always the dudebros that get really bigoted towards minorities in spaces. This was my experience in almost every fandom I’ve been in
Oh I gotcha, what I was referring to is fans like the community which is referred to as a fandom! Here’s a hopefully better explanation. I apologize if I came off as rude, I sometimes forget it’s not a complete common word or is used differently
Is wild to me, at least, that anime fans can be dense like that just because Japan is a ultra right nationalist country
Like, yeah, they dont have the spine to do LGBT+, but it dont mean that you can be racist\phobic because there is no direct references to social things
That is why westerns keep banging on the same key of "We are incluse" because in the first moment you faulter, they just put a "Anti-woke" hat in your media and just be like "See, woke mob, this is how you go facist with your media"
Also worth noting how certain anime and manga aren't afraid to hold back on discussing social issues in Japan and even outright dissing their own home country.
But right-wing Western fans don't care, because they don't see Japan as an actual country with actual people.
It’s especially funny when there’s an extremely obvious same-sex relationship in an anime or a manga, and they throw a tantrum, claiming that it’s akshually “localized” and a “mistranslation.”
bruh the pain i felt being a zombieland saga fan and seeing anime fans deny for WEEKS that it had a trans girl (only to use her as the "right" way to write a trans character years later)
Hell I remember how people were pulling something similar for the game Signalis even tho there is a legit kiss in the game.
And people still too dense just saying "They are just really good friends" At this point I just think they are either stupid or doing it on purpose to annoy people.
They get into fandoms because it's The Big Thing™. They just want to be part of the in-group. For example: there's a sizeable portion of the One Piece fandom doesn't read or watch it and just look up spoilers on Reddit or Youtube.
it's not that fandom gets worse, but popularity exposes it to fascists, bigots with no media literacy. I don't think it's the best to view "fandom" as a coherent entity, more different groups of different people
We’re getting to a point where writers and creators will basically just have to come straight out and tell everyone what they intended/or what their beliefs are.
And even THAT isn’t guaranteed to stop it. (Ex: GW telling the Alt-Right to fuck off from 40k only for them to still stir up shit)
And what's fucked up is that mofos STILL be coping over that despite Daisuke basically confirmed that she's intersex. Like sure, she may fit the otoko no ko trope, but to try so hard not to respect her canonical sex and/or refer to her as a femboy is rather weird. Same thing applies with Testament.
I saw a little bit of it. It’s really really good and interesting at first, but then it evolves into this really stressful tense generic fantasy anime where the character you really like isn’t given a chance to be happy for even a second. I stopped watching at that point.
From what I’ve seen, it appears the Japanese are upset about double standards. Mainly in how it’s not okay to race swap black characters but okay to race swap Japanese characters.
Honestly, it's always the same thing with fandoms. People get into it, do something that has to do with the fandom (fan art, head cannon, etc.), and people just dont understand that this is just others having fun. It's not threatening yours!
My advice? Never get too deep into fandoms. There are great people among them but it can also be filled with toxic and degenerate people as well. Even some of the greater fandoms still have some toxic people in them. And spreading hate is just common sadly these days
I get so confused when I see stuff like this end up in my discovery feed because I have like zero context for any of it. I just uh, watch anime. And sometimes get anime stickers. I know very little about anime culture in the west beyond that.
It's CHOCK FULL of screwed up young men who know nothing about the history and culture that created it. They trust it for there own ridiculous fantasies. Sadly developers and writers are making money catering to them now.
judging by your replies on your profile youre definitely online a lot starting arguments with literally anyone for no reason lol so its wild youd say that to anyone else
It's human nature to want to connect with others over shared wants. It's not that people don't know how to get away from it, its that this shit always seems to leak it's way in.
I think a part of it is racism and shittiness in fandoms for the English speaking side isn't acknowledged/challenged by the original creators since they just aren't aware of it.
If that happens for a Western production chances are it would be called out by the creators in or out of the show.
I don't know if I just haven't interacted with the fandom enough but from what I've seen other jojo fans are fairly chill outside of powerscalers (but tbh most powerscalers in any community suck anyway so like)
I had to quit all my Star Trek and Star Wars groups because the "fans" were so toxically petty and picky about ANY new project. Let em all go and now I can enjoy new stuff without being annoyed by dicks telling me what I should hate about it.
Good on ya! The only time I've made an effort to interact with fandom is when it's such a small group or the fans are so scattered that it's easy to stay on the not garbo end. But overall just enjoy what ya want and do let people harsh your vibe
Now I'm even more happier that I've thrown the idea of fandom to the trash and stopped engaging in fan communities. There are healthy ways to do it in a creative way, but mostly it's just consooooomer brain demanding that things conform to their liking
It feels like every fandom I've seen has turned into something like that. Used to take much longer, but I think post-covid internet has sent all kinds of things into lightspeed.
yiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes. i hate whenever i like a series and i end up having to completely disengage from the fandom. being an mha fan when the anime came out was a whoooole ordeal.
MHA should be a reality check on why shipping doesn't care about what's canon. I had to drop the series entirely because I can't deal with this younger generation not understanding basic fandom rules.
minors in fandom spaces with 0 concept of fandom etiquette and 0 desire to learn or abide by it is why I enjoy things in small friend groups or TINY discords at the very most.
That's the healthiest way to do it at this point. It's just frustrating because those rules exist to protect minors, ironically enough. They need to learn how to navigate fandom in a safe and healthy manor. But the current culture just discourages that.
Question, so I've seen some of the show with my sister and I liked the yo-kai and the general atmosphere, but I know it has some weird parts (looking at the aliens) is that a significant part of the show or just something shocking that does not happen to often?
See this is why I'm hyped for, but lowkey scared of when Gachiakuta finally drops its anime.
It's so weird that, we get a good manga, everyone is chill, but then the anime drops, there's hype, and it goes downhill.
I don't know what happened but I learned early on to kinda just... enjoy things within a limited space?
The extended fandom-space has been not a great experience for me 😅
Yea. I us3 to be a toxic sonally shipper in the sonic fandom back when i was in middle school. I also was a sonic, shadow and silver fangirl to top it off. Thats over now but i use to get involved with shipping wars. It was dumb. As long as the ship doesnt hurt anyone its fine in my book
I've only seen the anime and I'm probably just being naive at this point, but i kinda expected the Dandadan community to be more , i guess, chill. Considering how lighthearted of a show/manga it is.
I love Dandadan, the manga, and the anime, but I'm not stepping over other people because they don't. That's just a lack of common sense…and indicative that that person has more pressing “issues” to say the least. I'm sorry for your experience.
Since twitter is still filled with rage merchants who's favorite words are slurs, they find whatever fanart featuring dark skinned characters and will get mad even for things they don't watch which happened again.
Luckily this isn't twitter, you aren't forced to engage in fandom if you just want to talk about a fun series.
Just block, ignore and go back to having fun.
Honestly this kinda stuff is why I am soooo hesitant to post and work on my stuff. Like, itll be cool if some people like it but what if there are "fans" of my work that bastardize it. Or the opposite too. Just too overwhelming.
and also I've read posts on the Dandadan Reddit. What I've currently read is that a lot of harassment towards fans. (Please take this with a grain of salt.)
I wanted to commission something myself (an oc) but it looks like they're still harassing her so she went into hiding, hope I could find her on bluesky some day,
It somehow turned from "VA from a minority group celebrating small, with a fan from same minority group who loves his work"
into a guy accusing him of being anti-japanese (?) that he doesn't believe being japanese is good enough, racist anime fans hop in and the worst slurs this side of the 1840s.
The people who are upset by fanarts like that are the same people who tell cosplayers they can’t cosplay certain characters because “character isn’t black”. 🙄
In this specific case it’s especially annoying because the dandadan anime makes so many references to black culture and music but god forbid black people actually want to be apart of that
I'm not saying I don't understand them bc I do. I'm just saying if we can live in a world with 1,000+ blond anime characters, hentai edits, and more, can't minorities just imagine themselves sitting at the table and being loved? not even canonically??
I mean, first what is a skeet? Second, I also wasnt referencing the anime; I haven't even seen it. I'm asking what they're talking about, then mention I plan to watch the anime 🤨
On the one hand, I became happier when I decided that fandoms don't exist. Then I came crashing down to Earth when I saw how many of what kind of people enjoy warhammer 40k. I'm not sure what I believe anymore.
40k enjoyer here. The fandom is either the nicest, most chill progressives who understand the satire aspect of 40k, or terminally online neo-nazis with zero media literacy.
It really is a big shame when these communities, often ones pre-existing fanbases and even the creators, don't accept or want, seem to attract to media they just don't get and ruin the fun for others by being hateful
part of why i think dandadan is so bad now is because a lot of new fans were insistent on "not turning toxic like the jjk/mha fans" and then proceeded to harass anyone who did anything that wasn't blind praise or momo/okarun ship art. like cool you made the community deeply unpleasant.
Was gonna ask what the problem was since this series has passed me by to the point where i'll probably never get into it. Looks like my questions were answered.
Yeah as someone in the same boat with the manga it is wild how much a fanbase can change when it becomes “mainstream” or in the case of manga get an anime adaptation. Some “fans” that come in are so interesting…
I have yet to see the show, but when I opened Twitter (still kicking the habit) I saw real revolting unhinged shit. People are calling for Beckles to be blacklisted, are sexualizing Blue Ivy Carter just so they can accuse others of it, and gloating to Canadian that they'll be bombed "Ukraine style".
That's usually why I never engage with fandoms, and if I do try to keep it at a minimum. I just find one Person to talk with and that's it, I just don't want to be part of the endless cycle of liking a series, interact with people, series gets adapted, shit goes downhill. Nu uh.
I think what happened is hateful people were platformed more and more and more in the public eye instead of their little subsections on small ass websites
I'm almost afraid to ask, but I kinda already have an idea of what parts of the fandom are like. I suppose that happens when an anime/manga gets popular.
As someone who doesn't interact much with fandoms except the ones I am really involved in, I have no clue of who are those nazi fans, what they love, hate or love to hate.
I am just confused and maybe I just don't need to know more
Woah woah woah, what have I missed? I also started reading pretty early on in the series and yet pretty much everything I’ve seen online related to Dandadan has been met with positivity. What has changed other than the usual issues that happens when a series gets a popular adaptation?
That’s what happens when things get big enough and breach containment outside their target audience, all the weirdos and racist think it‘a a safe space for em that’s why I hunker down in my little corner and just have fun :)
I enjoy this anime, and other than this post have had zero interactions with the "fandom". My recommendation would be to enjoy what you enjoy, and spend less time on social media.
One of many reasons I avoid anime fandoms like the plague...
Its always a shame because the medium has always had so much potential and sometimes a diamond pokes through the rough, but its hard to recommend the medium as a whole because of its fanbases.
I remember in my first years of watching anime I prided myself in never being a part of a fandom because every time I heard anything about one it was always bad news. Now it’s less pride and more sadness that I can’t enjoy something with a community because the world has become controversy oppressed
Yeah. Way back when I started, I initially anime chatted a lot on Something Awful's ADTRW subforum. But when I looked around at other anime communities, I was disgusted pretty quickly. ADTRW itself wasnt a perfect place but it was still better than a shithole.
I don’t know what this is a reference to but a safe guess is neckbeardery. Always a safe bet to enjoy the anime for yourself and never go near the fandoms.
I mean. That's not really fair. Most of those people aren't really fans they just want to use something popular to grift. Their find another series soon enough
There are just hyper conservatives that are just ignoring its themes for the sake of comfort, but I don’t see them often. I hear about them more than I see them.
What themes are they ignoring specifically?
I know Dandadan has a strong stance against violence towards women given the backstory of bound spirit and Acro-Silky.
This is just my perspective but I encourage you to find your own. But yes themes against violence against women, I think there is this idea that men can’t be sexually assaulted that is echoed by them, they generally don’t like well written women and dandadan has GREAT female characters. Anti-romance
I swear the aliens want Okaruns banana just as much as they want the girl's? Btw is the banana a penis or just sexual organ? How does everyone have a banana? I don't imagine it's the clit, that's not big enough to look like a banana usually.
I really want to watch (or read) Dandadan, but like... I don't think I have it in me to watch another anime that has any amount of fanservice. I've been trying to convince myself not to give up because the animation seems AWESOME and the music is really enjoyable to listen to, but I can't do it :(
I love Dandadan but I think it’s totally fair if the fanservice is hard to get through. I feel like anime (at least shounen anime) has gotten better at not overly sexualizing its female cast, so Dandadan sticks out hard.
Its to the point where I dread anime for series that I like. Like I was so into spyXfamily until the anime happened and weirdos came out in full force about it. And now I get to dread the Sakamoto days anime ruining another series I'm enjoying. We just aren't allowed to like things
Yeah, a big part of the anime fandom isn't great. I think a big part of it is that a lot of the biggest shows are shonen, whose target audience is teenage boys, so a lot of the community are teenagers. Which especially with the shitty people the teenagers then imitate them.
Lol My mom was watching a Murder She Wrote episode where Jessica meets with her JF Fan Club and I had to explain to her why that would never happen in 2024
Huh? Really? Where do all of these shitty people even exist? I never see any of it. Probably because I just stick two Discord servers with two digit populations and the occasional silly YouTuber
I have the ongoing theory that you just get a guaranteed 1% of shitty people in a fandom. So when it's small and manga-only it's easy to ignore, but when it explodes in popularity due to an anime, then that 1% suddenly becomes way noticeable.
It's a shame, but at least the show itself is good
Eh sorry not gonna stop me enjoying anime, it did before, but I haven't read the manga (i will), but I really enjoyed watching the anime and I'm optimistic abt the direction of the story and relationships between the characters and also animation was really interesting.. I was sceptical at first bc-
Honestly anime fans have been like this since anime was just a niche thing people got made fun of for liking. They feel like anyone (especially poc) who gets into anime is "invading" they're safe space so they become even more violently racist.
I honestly don't know what you're talking about but sorry you experienced that. Haven't encountered that at all with this series yet but regardless there are always going to be shitty fans in any media or thing. Best thing you can do is not engage because your just in for one depressing migraine.
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I like staying out of fandoms. They tend to go too hard for me
4chan started in the late 90s early 2000s as an anime discussion forum and very quickly became a nazi site because of the overlap between anime fans on the internet and racists
They're looking for media that they can consume which is "free from ideology."
Anime appeals to this demographic because they weren't socialized in Japan, and so the ideology remains invisible.
At this point i'm just taking pages from @/kennylauderdale and sticking with old school anime.
Tell me 1 fascist in AoT that's presented as moral or even logisitically correct
If you'd like to continue this then I'd suggest making a separate post and pinging me in it so poor @/bug fancier doesn't need to deal with potential white noise in their replies.
Hang out and build comunity with good fans and don't give toxic assholes the time of day.
Did u mean the average anime fan?
I can imagine though with it being the big shonen show of the moment. That always attracts the incels.
I think the biggest thing when in any fandom is to just curate your own experience. I know that my enjoyment of something doesn't reflect other fans bad traits on me. I'm just here to have fun!
More than once have they destroyed something i enjoyed watching
So now i just enjoy the things i like in my corner and from far away
At this point, i dont even talk about the things i like anymore online
I just keep the discussion IRL among my friends and with folks at conventions! Someday soon, I’d like to be a little brave and reenter the online discourse on my terms
this means that 'Fandom' doesnt exist on these platforms, nothings connecting anyone together except hate
I remember how there was a flood of them on reddit immediately after June. Dont know if it was intentional, but it felt like people sending a message
Bigots are stupid and don't read 😌
Warframe's is great for exemple. Their secret is quite simple: they curated their audience for years. Adding multiple queer rep, and standing their ground on it.
Also it happens that Ticker is also the best.
Enjoying fiction isn't just a thing you do anymore. It's now a thing that must be actively used for either Profit, Clout, or both. If you don't consume it immediately and spew your response? You lose the views and the clicks. No Profit or Clout
Why don't the fash become interesting, fully individuated people and make their own media? Is being a well-rounded person anti-fascist? Lmao so disgusting I hate them
I assume dandadan has a lot of incel fans. Which probably is the same in JPN lol
Super niche =cool people actually into the thing
The middle of mainstream niche =the psychos arrive and get off on being a fan of this niche thing.
Super mainstream =just like the general population. The idiots drift away as its not cool.
Not kidding.
Not trying to be neg/rude
But what is it?
Like, yeah, they dont have the spine to do LGBT+, but it dont mean that you can be racist\phobic because there is no direct references to social things
But right-wing Western fans don't care, because they don't see Japan as an actual country with actual people.
And people still too dense just saying "They are just really good friends" At this point I just think they are either stupid or doing it on purpose to annoy people.
and then you look at the history and
*-ryoko kui's
And even THAT isn’t guaranteed to stop it. (Ex: GW telling the Alt-Right to fuck off from 40k only for them to still stir up shit)
*Waves in Undead Unluck*
already?
i never knew its already turned into on of those "those" fandoms
If that happens for a Western production chances are it would be called out by the creators in or out of the show.
I experienced it with Jojo's.
1) don't get involved in any fandoms
2) don't watch anyone's reviews
3) don't look at ratings
It's so weird that, we get a good manga, everyone is chill, but then the anime drops, there's hype, and it goes downhill.
Also, tomorrow is DandaDan Thursday!
The art was actually so cute to, hoping the artist and VA's are all good.
The extended fandom-space has been not a great experience for me 😅
Just block, ignore and go back to having fun.
and more recently:
-English VA for okarun is black
-excited teen drew fanart reflecting that, VA made it his twitter pfp to encourage them/ thank them for it
-Queue the most racist and vilest accusations/comments from across the globe as well as a call for a recast.
The fanart was really good!! That teen has serious talent!
into a guy accusing him of being anti-japanese (?) that he doesn't believe being japanese is good enough, racist anime fans hop in and the worst slurs this side of the 1840s.
Brown person cosplays an anime character?
slurs/bullying/harassment bc "You'll never be light enough for [ x character ]"
Artists shrug and do their own cultural spin on character to encourage small group to cosplay?
Here comes the KKK
Maybe it's too much to ask, idk it still hurts
its so toxic like everytime you said something that contradicts a part of a manga or anime that kinda weird they'll say you're a tourist
Dandadan is the best thing about this season and I won't let anyone ruin it for me
reactions to dandadan
The general reception I've seen is pretty positive, but I'm worried...?
I am just confused and maybe I just don't need to know more
Its always a shame because the medium has always had so much potential and sometimes a diamond pokes through the rough, but its hard to recommend the medium as a whole because of its fanbases.
- Overtake: drama about F4 racing and also war photography trauma
- Sonny Boy: Surreal adventure about students trapped in a void
- Odd Taxi: Neo noir about a walrus taxi driver who thinks he kidnapped someone
I know Dandadan has a strong stance against violence towards women given the backstory of bound spirit and Acro-Silky.
1) All fandom is toxic
2) Don't interact with fans. Ever.
Lol My mom was watching a Murder She Wrote episode where Jessica meets with her JF Fan Club and I had to explain to her why that would never happen in 2024
It's a shame, but at least the show itself is good
kinda exactly what that kind of person is into
Fandoms are tew much 😮💨