I absolutely believe it; after America reelected Bush in 04 and elected Trump in 16, why are you still shocked about the electorate? The people on the right vote, the people on the left argue about non essentials and throw tamper tantrums about silliness. The left needs to stop with their purity bul
I agree with you completely. The Ds need to figure out how to talk to low involvement voters. College educated critical thinking people (who are not totally selfish) get it. And, the purity test BS has to stop. The FAFO for all the Gaza people is already happening.
I'm with you John. To use roleplaying terms (because I understand that math) from 35 yrs designing TTRPGs and to say this is unfeasible is understating it. The odds are insane.
This is like every single person at the table tossing dice and getting a nat 20 every time during the game. Impossible.
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Then you have too high an estimation of the intelligence and character of the average American.
The overwhelming majority of people (including a majority of Democrats) have horrible instincts, about who to trust, for their information, and for political office.
I mean Donald Trump himself is also literally disqualified from being president so that's gonna be an interesting constitutional crisis that I'm not convinced the USA is fully grappling with just yet
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Don't forget Thiel & Palantir. He isn't sweating Vaseline for no reason. Palantir - Lord of the Rings - created by the Elves and allowed users to perceive visions, though they could be manipulated by powerful users, such as Sauron.
Not to start any misinformation but have you heard about a ton of ballots in swing states ONLY having Trump marked and NOTHING else - a highly unusual scenario ?
Even more shocking the MARICOPIA AZ limited Risk limiting audit suggests That Trumps cheat necessitated him winning 70% of 250k Votes on Nov 5th in person and Kamala, only 28%. That’s a FACT! It was needed to overcome Kamala’s 7% lead after 1.8 million early votes! 😡 😤
i did some calculations comparing the % of total voters who didn't participate in the presidential race & the % who didn't vote in the senate race with data from 2016, 2020, and 2024.
even is states that kamala won, i found the margin between 'no senate' & 'no potus' voters grew far beyond turnout
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There is a theory that they know it was hacked, but a) DOJ can't do anything officially until it's certified per the law around election investigation so they are being quiet, or b) the billionaires who want to dismantle the US and reap the rewards have 'greased the wheels'.
If they are, it’s under very tight lips… I’m still wondering about the status of the multiple fed/fbi raids of several questionable individuals in the days right after the election.. but, crickets so far
If they are investigating something serious, I don’t blame them for keeping quiet until the evidence is strong. Last thing they want is to look like Trump did whining about how he was cheated for 4 years. Better to shock and awe us
honestly, it's impossible to discuss. it's blocked on social platforms and we have no idea how common this suspicion is. and 25% of the replies here are calling people "blue anon" for saying it
Investigate what? There’s no indication of any election problems anywhere in the country. People who believe in a massive 50 state conspiracy despite this will never be swayed by an investigation that turns up nothing.
Nothing happened? Over 60 bomb scares in predominantly Blue areas. Trump winning all swing states. Something that hasn’t happened in 4 decades plus doing it with less than 50% of the popular vote. Plus doing it with just enough votes to not cause an automatic recount. The numbers don’t add up.
60 bomb threats are not responsible for 2,700 *counties* moving to the right. Every state. I assure you every state was not hacked nor affected by threats. Winning all the swing states is consistent with Trump getting more votes than a massive conspiracy.
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Incomplete data. Haris won near 75 million votes vs Trump 77.2 million. Total votes in 2020 - 155 million, 2024 - 152 million. Less people voted. Turnout in 2020 was 66.6%.
He went from setting up lawsuits to disputes the election votes to I have enough votes.. Harris’s rallies were packed while Trump’s looked like a funeral .. a rat was in the kitchen by the name of Elon Musk with a big fat wallet of $277 million
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Why isn’t this being looked into more if nothing else I think we deserve a definitive answer. just so many unanswered questions and oh too many coincidences.
Pooteen interfered in multiple different countries elections recently and the worst people have been put in place, we the people from around the world need to step up and protect our freedoms and democracies if the higher ups can't find evidence !!!
I have no idea why it isn't being looked into, but my gut is telling me that something absolutely enormous is happening behind the curtain, and it will be a dramatic paradigm shift.
I hope the good guys roll in but it’s never gonna happen. Zero percent chance. The republicans are always miles ahead of democrats but it seems none have any fight.
I think they think we're too stupid, distracted to notice. They're stuck in this mindset of government vs. people, the People being an unsophisticated nebulous blob who shares one brain cell. Recent events have me questioning if they know we can see them seeing us seeing them see us see them. 😒
The Jared Kushner $3 trillion MBS windfall was never investigated and they had 4 years.
I think they are going to ensure a peaceful transfer of power because they don’t want to look like Trump in 2020, when the American people who believed it was stolen were in the minority and ridiculed for it
Harris's team's internal polling never had Harris ahead. I know it sucks, but it doesn't appear that there were any shenanigans, it's just that a slight majority of voters, a very small majority, opted for fascism. This is a conservative country sadly and there's simply slightly more of THEM than US
It looks like a South American election. Just like Brazil but they tossed that a hole out. Look at the pattern, it's so similar. When Bolsonaro lost and had to exile himself he flew to Mar A Lago immediately, it was the first place he went.
Are you being stupid on purpose? She had to PAY people to come. Trump had 40,000-60,000 just in the stadium and thousands more who couldn't get in, at least three times a week.
The cognitive dissonance is strong with you.
Oh, and she had 2 BILLION, and is still $20 million in debt. 🤦♀️
We shouldn't accept the election results so quickly... there are numerous anomalies, and the overall vote count is suspiciously low... Trump never accepted 2020 results for four years... we shouldn't accept these results in three hours... why is the overall vote count so low?...
Respectfully, this seems unlikely as the recount deadlines passed without any recount requests being made; unless an investigation is underway, I'm not confident that this happened. (Though it should have!! Trump had numerous recounts and 60+ lawsuits in 2020 + we can't muster a few hand recounts?)
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Respectfully, I no longer believe the democratic party has much relief to offer us.
When we're facing a powerful trumplican party that has global criminals at the reins, that's a serious disadvantage. That powerful political party is free to operate outside the laws of this country.
I agree with you! It's ALL just a little TOO OBVIOUS! The BIASED FBI however has chosen to IGNORE the glaring red flags so NOTHING will be done about it! The FBI has HELPED put a DICTATOR in charge of OUR Country when THEY'RE supposed to PROTECT us from our ENEMIES!😠
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you’re right - Elon/MAGA took America away from We The People with a few lines of embarrassing software malware coding installed in easy to hack by design, voting machines and tabulators
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If it was an algorithm why didn’t election audits find issues? They randomly select and hand count ballots. If there was manipulation I don’t think it was done with this scale of vote flipping. Maybe they got creative.
He did not win the popular vote, either time. I will go to my grave believing that had a Democrat won the White House once, much less 3 times, without winning the popular vote, there would have been a bill introduced the NEXT DAY to eliminate the Electoral College. THE NEXT DAY.
I wholly agree! Too many discrepancies along with numerous bomb threats, trump’s “little secret” with Mike Johnson, regaling how he didn’t need the votes, along with musk saying he’s “f*d” if trump loses as he’d go to jail. They stole the election.
Agree 1000%. Hate sounding like a right wing conspiracist, but there are too many coincidences. I really really hope the appropriate people are thoroughly investigating (and just being discreet)🙏
Weaponized unreality is part of the fascist toolkit.
To reframe:
Four years of MAGA losing their mind over 'stolen elections' w/ no evidence has instilled a revulsion response in Democrats and made them reluctant to raise valid concerns in the face of irregular results + worrying global trends.
You are, of course, completely right — as my rather tepid comment above illustrates😉Investigating the election results is imperative — I never questioned the R’s right to challenge, just the validity.
Ultimately we shouldn’t care how we sound as long as we act, and the investigations bear fruit.
And then after shaming those who ask for recounts, they’ll complain about how facts don’t matter anymore. We need to verify them in order for them to continue to matter. We need to know that facts are what we’re operating from in the first place. Other countries are doing better at this than we are.
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Thanks for this, Goddess…I’ve only just skimmed through some of it. It seems there is certainly a lot of support for investigating the election, but are you aware of any “official” actions taken by the Harris campaign or LE? It’s just alarming that we haven’t heard much aside from our own grumblings
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All of these bother me, too.
But the thing that clinches it for me (but can’t be called evidence) is that Melania renegotiated her prenup a few days before the election. I’m pretty sure she was on her way out the door. Then they finalized the interference & Orange Julius Caesar pulled her back in.
Can we please stop the blue maga conspiracy bullshit? Yall sound fucking crazy.
ICYMI: trump won the popular vote. It’s entirely within the realm of possibility he won all the swing states, you sound ignorant and out of touch to be spouting this low iq crap
When you lose the popular vote for the first time in 20 years, like duh it’s pretty fucking obvious he’s gonna have an edge in pretty much every state. When he lost the popular vote in 2016 he still won most all the swing states….
His butt is not accurate. It's much bigger and fleshier. Plus he usually has a diaper on. But I get the sentiment. It's just you gave him the butt of an athletic 20 year old.
Not my gift to give, but perhaps if Elon and Pooters were there to assist Uncle Woo Woo to go down and get dirty on the flag. The toilet roll is superfluous. Maybe a sequel with a badly soiled Stars and Stripes clamped between his butt cheeks as he shuffles away would more illustrative...
20M mail-in ballots in the battleground states that didn't scan Harris's name. Will they be found and re-scanned in machines that weren't rigged by Elm0, his tech buddies in Silicon Valley, Starlink & Putin before the confirmation that shouldn't be happening because he broke his oath on Jan 6th.
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Call me crazy , but I do believe that something or someone did something to make him win. I will say it again and again until I have no breath in me !! No way he won all the swing states Especially with women’s rights at stake 🤔🤔🤔💯
A current theory is the tabulators were targeted and attacked. There are far fewer tabulators making up the election infrastructure then the individual voting machines. The Risk limiting audits don't even look at the tabulators...
Maricopa AZ Samples from the RLA show a 11!! point difference from the final results showing Kamala winning in the samples for Maricopa AZ which is a statistical improbability.
I believe that we will get some answers. VP Harris is a prosecutor and Attorney General she is used to dealing with criminals and has done so successfully. She’s aware of people like TFG and Elon so in poker you don’t give away your hand. You can bluff though
Look if you were a losing candidate and you had any evidence of foul play you would be screaming for an investigation. We haven’t heard a peep out of Kamala Harris.
They have been trying for many years. They have had occasional success with one system, but this would’ve required hacking seven separate state systems.
Well, then we are fucked for the next 200 years but I don’t believe it. If there was cheating, a forensic audit would uncover it. So why are the Democrats not calling for a forensic got it? Because they believe they lost fair and square.
As hard as it is for me to swallow the results of the 2024 election, it would seem to me some of the districts in swing states would have had to count paper ballots before declaring either Harris or Trump the winner.
Not really, the democrats are doing their standard roll-over-on-our-back-and-wag-our-tail hoping the mean-ol’ Republicans won’t kick us too hard bit, bizarrely trying to show how they take the high-road.
That, or they’re in on it, which also wouldn’t surprise me at this point.
I've believed in the morals of our country & Democratic party for most of my 50 years. Seeing not just the election results, but how Democrats have been acting since gives me pause.
All politicians have forgotten that they are public servants elected to represent the PEOPLE, not to get rich!
Oh, so you think the Democrats want to lose? I don’t believe that. What I do believe is that according to the 14th amendment, Trump is ineligible to hold office. Everyone needs to be shouting that from the rooftops because you’re right the Dems are just rolling over.
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How does Putin win every “election” in Russia? Look at what he does there, and you’ll likely find some variation of it here. The problem is that we don’t even want to look. Why not? Why not just do a hand recount and see if it matches up? If it does then fine. But why not check?
It wasn’t just in seven states. They had years to modify the code in the tabulators. Modify code only triggers in Election Day. There are irregularities even in Texas.
There is literally no evidence, no proof of anything. This is just people crying in their beer unless Kamala orders, forensic audits that turn up something.
I'm seeing preliminary and/or hobbyist plots of Maricopa that look like NC's POTUS/AG race as mentioned in Spoonamore's Dec 05 substack. No natural variation, it looks like methodical metering. Like someone harvested dozens of thousands of ballots to drop in at the exact time. But I dunno how/who.
Flynn and the pillow guy were on a mission to get the voting machine software. There has been convictions of ppl giving access to machines. Sympathetic individuals could have replaced the firmware
In seven states? I wish I could believe it, but I don’t. I am a believer in Occam’s razor: the simplest answer is that there really are that many jerks in the United States.
We all love Trump, but J6 was not the most popular thing, and election deniers are being ousted nationwide. Why are so many ALMOST tight margins and flat lines being generated from the data, and why wasn't there a single red-to-blue county? The election was buffed smooth... by insurrection?
Hacking was only one of the ways. They burned drop boxes. Russia phoned in bomb threats. They had key people placed in SOS offices restricting votes....And all in dem. precincts in battleground states. It was a coordinated attack with Musk+Putin at the helm.
The bomb threats and the arsons did not affect very many votes. Russia and Putin and Republicans tried to fuck with the votes, but all of these bad actors are fucking incompetent. They would not be able to precisely manipulate election results. That has never been the case.
Sure, prove it! Where did those records registrations go? Mail-in had already netted 51% of the total vote in 2020. Record turnout. Lines reported across the country and yet it didn't translate to votes. No WAY! Rogan said Musk had an app that allowed him to access vote totals. The FIX was in!
I left this out of my last reply. Yes, where did the registrations go? I faltered on "voting was easier when courts were lenient for COVID," because it's true but it's not the big problem.
Where are all the Only Trumpers? What radio shows do they listen to? AZ got abortion and Gallego,so why Trump?
Biden supposedly got 81 million votes - the most ever - yet, Harris got 75 million. Where did the 6 million votes go? But, when we said he cheated, we got told we were election deniers.
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I’ll wade in on this on and say, at least for Arizona, it’s entirely believable. This is a very red state. Im from the south and the bigotry here is a bit much, even for me. The immigrants from Cali a few years ago didn’t change things much. In fact, I think Cali Repubs were mostly what we got here.
I do. Previously in Tucson as well. It’s mostly passive-aggressive stuff. I mostly see it in the East Valley, especially around Scottsdale and Chandler. I’m always amused when the rich folk assume I’m like them and start trashing people. The things I’ve heard out of their mouths.
Another point is Maricopa county loved Joe Arpaio for the longest time. He was one of the most racist, Trump-loving sheriffs you could find at the time.
You guys can speculate all you want. But I hope you know what going down this path entails. The Supreme Court and Congress is stacked against us. Government officials are already stepping aside to make way for the administration. If you think Kamala is going to come down in a crystal ball and
Arrest Trump, that WILL be met with armed resistance. Is that what you want? Are YOU willing to do a Jan 6? Because that’s what it’s going to take to throw Trump in jail and keep him out of office. And something tells me the majority of liberals aren’t willing to do this.
And America just rolled over to become an oligarchy/dicatororship or whatever the hell you want to call us now...we certainly are no longer a constitutional republic.
Trump did not even win a majority of votes in 2024!! (49.9% according to wiki)
It's alarming when the last time this happened (no county flips) there was a 35% popular vote swing from Hoover in 1928 to FDR in 1932, compared to 2024 which was the 5 most narrow Presidential Victory in 100 years.
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Elon Musk has the resources to make it happen, That's why he was jumping up and down like a little kid, giddy by what he pulled off. Trump can't go against his new VP Musk now for fear of being exposed. Of course this is just my opinion. 🤷♀️
Nah, the orange shitgoblin doesn’t care about anyone. Just his own power. This was a surgical operation- exactly where he needed the electoral college votes.
He didn’t do any of those things. He simply bought the companies. He’s a fascist douche bag who seems to be on drugs. And I don’t believe Starlink has that capacity, no.
It’s wild to suggest that one man could upend an entire election in 2024, but to also suggest that any sort of election rigging was summarily impossible in 2020.
Not really one man. Musk, a multibillionaire, and Putin, along with his entire Russian hacking and disinformation infrastructure. Don’t know if or how they did it, but it merits an investigation.
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My main question has always been about the “black maga” hats. It’s well known lingo in hacker community “black hat hacker”, I always thought it was strange & didn’t fit.
Not a conspiracy theorist. The silence is deafening.
And I guess we are just gunna ignore that he is disqualified for office through our constitution unless Congress votes 2/3rds to remove the disqualification?? 🤷♂️🤦♂️ pathetic… 😡
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Are you saying the Trump campaign altered voting machine results? Because there’s no evidence of that. Claiming, without evidence, that a candidate cheated is the kind of petulant, immature bullshit we heard from MAGA in 2020. Don’t go there unless you have proof to support your allegation
It's because they don't understand it. Same with the MAGA people- they think everyone agrees with them, and if they don't see the result of that, it's because of hijinks.
They know. They have been threatened, or paid off to keep quiet, and act like it's normal to let a guy who JUST robbed your store 4 years ago, come be the manager, and hire all of his fellow criminal rapist, thieving friends as his staff. In YOUR store.
The Democrats have always been the party of “when they go low we go high” so i have very little faith but maybe they are doing investigations behind the scenes and are planning to wait until the electoral college meets.
That's super risky. They should have been demanding recounts and investigations publicly, immediately. By waiting until January, you risk actual physical conflict from people who a) believed the election over on election night b) like to watch things burn.
Sadly, we have spent too many years hoping that the #Democrats have a plan that we just aren’t privy to. Look at #MerrickGarland. At one time we believed he would make sure justice prevailed. And here we are. The Nazis are in the house.
He had plenty of incentive to put together a plan to cheat and still had control over the majority of his party for help.
trump knew had he not been re-elected he would've become the first ex-pres to receive a one way ticket to the big house!
in 2016 #TrumpWasAnInsideJob, with Putin serving as delivery boy. The insiders were done with Trump and they allowed the prosecution as a cleanup operation.
But nothing happens in Washington without spook support, and #DarkBrandon is a total myth. Simple bureaucratic malaise delayed Trump's bust
Yes, the House, the Senate, the WhiteHouse, the Supreme Court. I am Canadian, the spread of fascism makes me so fearful. It’s happening people we need to wake up.
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My very 1st thought when msm announced trump's "win". No way it was a fair/honest election on his part.
Too many inconsistencies, interruptions, foreign interference & starlink capabilities that allowed just the right #s to be added/subtracted into the totals.
They all but announced it before Nov 5
Communication has shaped politics more than policy ever since!
- Trump, is the media mogul.
- Musk, gets social media like no one else.
- They both cut through the traditional media, talk straight to the people, and win big!
What is stopping the left from pulling off the same shit?
Wining 7/7 Swing States with less than 50% of the vote just outside automatic recount ranges it's literally less than 1 to 35 billion chance, Insane. Spoonamore just posted a sampled county recount hacked tabulators gave 11% more votes to trump than actual recount. 100% election hack & fake results!
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Less than 1 in 35 billion. It's literally the Combination of under 50% votes (so just barely winning anything)but votes just above automatic recount ranges in all 7 swing States. Think of This Insanity as paininting a castle with a yougurt can worth of paint.(+endless other reasons)100% fake result.
No way in hell. But no one's officially challenging it, which is what really pisses me off. They had all this time to prepare for the eventuality, and yet, they're turning the other cheek.
What's the chance that they will do anything about this in the 2 weeks between certification and inauguration? Esp when the vast majority of DOJ is MAGA or MAGA adjacent?
But they never did anything, then or now. Mueller came right out and said that there was election interference by Russia for the benefit of trump's campaign and that they knew it and accepted it. The DOJ doesn't WANT to hold power to account. They didn't with Nixon 50 yrs ago, and don't want to now.
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maintains his radio silence on the whole hacking issue. You'd think he'd at least say he's looked into it and whether he's concluded anything or still looking.
I’ve been saying this too, there were a lot of switches from red to blue (not vice versa) and remember his last rallies with people not even showing up versus hers high energy in DC?
And don't forget, one of Starlink's satellites mysteriously self-destructed a few days after the election. And how did 15-18 million dem votes just disappear?
REALLY? I hadn't heard about that… And what do you mean a few days after, isn't that too late by then to matter
(just being devil's advocate I want to check everything)
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I was a a poll greeter (dem)
Everyone that came to our table said they were voting straight ticket , understanding the importance of dem down ballot. NO ONE made any mention of voting for Trp, splitting the ticket. NO ONE
I agree 100%. They cheated.
"I don't need your vote - we have enough votes." & in June Muskrat posted "ANYTHING can be hacked." Idk why they didn't do a recount. Dems didn't do enough to stop him from being president.
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Please check the post pinned to the top of my page around contacting elected officials RE: a recount or forensic audit. It contains a script as to what to say. Please share widely on here!
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Particularly in Fulton Co. GA, a democratic stronghold.
I work elections, do a lot of canvassing, and the Republican voter suppression is a real. If your vote didn’t matter they wouldn’t be trying so hard to stop you from voting, and suing to throw out ballots.
R’s are rulers not representatives.
I’m in Cobb and we have found some shenanigans in the numbers. There is a subreddit where it is discussed, search it for “Cobb”.
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I live in Cobb too, but I have a friend in Intelligence (CIA) and they’ve monitored the entire election, pre and post. He said, Trump won fair and square, and he fucking hates Trump.
What happened. 👇🏿
He is a liar and cheat who tried to steal the 2020 election. He told us he didn't need votes, he had a little secret and now he is asking for backdated presidential immunity. Elon openly stated that he would go to prison if Trump wasn't elected. WAKE UP PEOPLE.
I know that this seems meaningless, but if you google black hat, it refers to someone who has hacked a system. Remember, when Musk showed up wearing a black maga hat at drump’s rally? I know that it sounds crazy but that’s how these guys get their kicks. Putting it out in the open.
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And Elon knew he won about 4 hours b4 MSM called it - according to Joe Rogan. Plus starlink networks in swing states, Russian bomb threats in swing states, this absolutely absurd alignment..This election was stolen. But it is what it is now. Welcome to hell. We have work our way out of it somehow.
Exactly, people on both sides seem to forget that he said he did not need the votes, don´t bother voting, we´ve got the votes. Anyone saying this was a free and fair election is either a bot or MAGA.
Exactly!! The Democrats need to wake tf up & start challenging/investigating the election. I understand the Dems play by the book & abide by the rules but this isn’t normal times.
I completely agree! I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I am convinced they did something. I believe it WILL come out one day, but I fear it will be too late. America will be gone by then.
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the campaign cheated in PA with an illegal lottery in my opinion, but that's not messing with the vote, so I guess it's where we draw the line of "cheating"
They pumped the media space with nothing but DEM hate and MAGA got every excuse they had for why the cheeto was acting the way he was. Inflation is turning a lot of places to the oposition party, no matter their colour. And the DEMS ran on a sub par program that wasn't quippy enough for most voters.
Especially when he says don’t worry about voting we have the votes. WTH does that mean. To me that means they have a way of knowing they have the votes. I hate to say it but THEY CHEATED!
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Pretty much all online gambling sites had Trump favored to win, with odds around 1.5, while Harris was at approximately 3.2. In gambling terms, that made Trump a pretty sure bet.
I rejected that when I first heard it
mentioned/ I am suspicious of anyone’s conspiracy theories. Now - not so sure. Musk has at his disposal the top techies in the world- is assuming a co Presidency role, with no real resistance fro Trump, it gets more and more believable every day.
Progressives have been complaining about money in politics for decades. Musk took it to a whole new level, spending hundreds of millions (that we know of).
He’s whining about Gannet printing a poll by Anne Selzer that showed him three points behind Harris. Seltzer’s polling data and several others showed Trump trailing heading into election night.
~ 3 million provisional votes were thrown out in 2024 vs ~500K for 2020. with 100K volunteers from Turning Point USA putting little old ladies at check-in and unable to find profiled democrats at the polling places and giving Provisionals instead.. that's possibly where they went.
Nah. Im Hispanic. Not a Troll. Just realized that the dem methodology is bullshit. I dont OWE them my vote. They have done NOTHING for me or my people. Try again.
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Because they did not show. Stupid, ignorant or terrified. Trump won with the bro vote, latinos who he is about to fuck and 43 % of women. Women! After all he displayed, women allowed him to be elected.
Oh, those dastardly women!🙄Look at the WHITE MALE vote. But white men are NEVER to be blamed for ANYTHING, correct?? Please, stop pointing fingers at the wrong group of voters…..
Not happy about it. I understand the MAGA 25 percent, but what about the other 18? None of Trump's vices mattered, and it was an election about women and lgbtq+ rights. That could not get 6/10 females, despite the unrelenting attack on women. We needed it to counter the subversion
The democrats have no real incentive to win. They'll never do what the base wants, and when they lose they become consultants.
For them personally, it doesn't matter. At least not to the ones in leadership.
I mean, we know for a fact trump tried to overthrow the government 4 years ago. He always says he'll go after democrats as enemies.
Democrats still tried to appease donors and win...
They will always pick their donors first, right until they're led up to the gallows. Delusional.
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Should Ivanka trademarked voting machines from China be in the U.S.?
The Red States won by "just enough" in the last few days-- interestingly enough, a time when Trump announced "We have a secret "
The Iowa poll was correct.
The momentum was still there.
Something technical happened = Musk
As much as I hate to say it, he did. And for many reasons. The main one being messaging. He gave people something to believe. He told them groceries would go down. And they believed it because they wanted to…
And when Kamala said she’d do the same as Biden, all they heard was « nothing’s gonna change », when they wanted change.
Biden has the right policies. But the messaging was the problem, and Trump, as dumb as his messaging is, had a message people wanted to believe and wanted to vote for.
Only by acknowledging WHY he won, and doing some deep reflection about it can the dems actually address the reasons of why he won, and prevent that from happening again.
God forbid you call it « socialist » though, as that word has been demonized…
But what polls keep showing is that people are in favor of universal healthcare, taxes for the rich, better minimum wage, employment insurance, social security, etc
I’m not saying he had anything intelligent to say, or that his « tariffs » ideas were good (they’re not), but talking about it was enough for people to believe that him as POTUS would actually change things (even though any informed person knows the contrary).
The US election result reeks of corruption. Musk declared Trump the winner hours before it was called. I always thought during the campaign Trump appeared not to believe he needed to fight the election - all very dodgy...
Also is trump looking knackered, is age catching up with him. It's only 1 month before he takes over he is not looking good (I know it's a low par) but with all the pressure he will face a young man will find it tough. #presidentmusk or VP forgot his name already.
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I tried to find a concise clip but only found it posted as a Facebook post. Not sure why I can’t seem to find the clip now on YouTube. I don’t want to post a link to the whole podcast.
When rich guilty people walk free and good poor people pay all the taxes - that's what you have. And, that's what we have. Our laws and elections are for SALE.
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How do you know the Democrats ´folded?¨ They may be working hard with Intelligence, gathering the evidence to stop trump from taking office. It is not over yet.
We´re not talking about Garland here--he´s a useless lump. I´m talking about the Dems gathering the evidence of election fraud. People giving up before the end are just spewing negativity and fear, when it´s not over yet. But if you think we´ve been HAD, then that´s simply your opinion, not fact.
I'll believe that when I see that. I see them on vacation. I see them locked into the same bullshit arguments we've been having for 10 years. I saw Joe Biden do nothing but APPEASE Republicans for 4 years, while ignoring his duty to keep us safe from an active coup. Then, he let the coup win. Nah.
Don't tell me what I saw. I saw it. When I see what YOU'RE saying - I'll cheer. I have zero hope in that reality, though. Based on the past 4 years of ass dragging, on purpose.
Those were not ´vacations´ if it makes you feel better, there was something else going on in Hawaii, there are a couple of important facilities there, I´m just blanking on the names right now. Both Harris and Biden suddenly returned to Washington, so maybe they learned even more about the cheating?
Biden supposedly got 81 million votes - the most ever - yet, Harris got 75 million. Where did the 6 million votes go? But, when we said he cheated, we got told we were election deniers.
It’s bad enough having to live with this bullshit election for the next four years, but I’m more concerned about future elections? Does this begin a pattern of repeated fixed elections? Are we Russia now?
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It's difficult to believe that a conspiracy of that magnitude, would not have leaks or whistleblowers. My question is. IF it is discovered that fraud was committed ... you are then faced with illegitimate admin, who can pardon the conspirators?
Yes Musk's Starlink rigged & over 60 bomb threats only at BLUE polling places election day. Yet this still did not warrant an investigation in weak Dems minds. @governorwalz.mn.gov Dems caved as usual & above law republicons depend on that. @gavinnewsom.bsky.social @aoc.bsky.social
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I actually haven’t seen any exit polling for the whole country or the whole state. It is all broken down by groups or topic. It is true people swung Trump at the end but when you look at exit polls he was down in some key groups from his 2020 numbers and not sure he could make that up with his gains
Sooonamore has now given up I think he had a good point but Harris never would call for a recount of those states A lot of us write her but apparently not enough
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- Elon launched satellites that are "Direct to cellphone" equipped (see here : https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1843797123420303789) but was highly discrete about it, as opposed as all the time he couldn't stop bragging about his achievements.
It is a big stretch to imagine the possibility the E&S voting machines could have been accessed through Elon's "Direct to cell" technology - without using startlink nor needing any antenna or regular starlink equipment - and then compromised ?
the direct to cell satellites are a new, lower orbit constellation that work with existing 5g cell phones directly? Personally I haven't heard a feasible or probable explanation how that could have impacted things.
Wisconsin is the one that really got me wondering.
Those people were flat out red handed CAUGHT trying to pass fake electoral college votes in 2020 for Donnie.
The secretary of state was seeking to prosecute them for forging state documents.
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There's four years of Biden failing to enforce U.S. laws, neglecting to adequately supervise Russian puppets like Garland and DeJoy and failing to protect National Security. If it wasn't to benefit candy man Trumpf and salute Duponts, GOP Congress would have impeached. So a steal was a real deal
Thank you! I've said from Day 1 that there was no way that Trump would not cheat during this election after cheating on everything else in his adult life, and working so damned hard at trying to win in 2020.
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There is a good possibility that 2-3 states could call an investigation. We all know Putin and Musk are behind it. The same way I bet you they are behind the drones. If Trump doesn't play by their rules...shits getting wilder by the day. I'm just glad I'm on the right side of history✊️💙
literally all billionaires are cheaters. every private company recieving subsidies, bailouts, interest free loans, etc. are cheaters. these people prosper beyond what most can even fathom.
the top 100 companies funneling $ to elected officials get >$700 back in govt wellfare for each $1 spent
They cheated. Pure and simple.Now we just have to pray Biden takes him immunity powers for a spin and declares Trump an insurrectionist and disqualifies him from being inaugurated
He’s cheated at EVERY other thing he’s EVER done.So this time, with his freedom at stake you think he suddenly changed his most natural and overwhelming behavior and behaved himself ? BS
Oh my — this is sweetness to the max! That ballsy action would spurn another Trump insurrection. I’d say ‘go for it’; Biden has nothing to lose at this point.
Somebody needs to since the SCOTUS can no longer be trusted.
FWIW, they argued the 14th amendment couldn’t be used to keep the prick off the ballot. It most certainly CAN be used to keep him from being sworn it.
They’ll just swear in Vance instead, but hell, he’s sane by comparison.
It wasn’t just Robert’s, the entire SCOTUS, including the so-called liberal ones, ALL collectively hiked their robes and took a dump on the 14 amendment.
I was honestly shocked.
They were given a golden opportunity on a silver platter to end this national nightmare and failed spectacularly.
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Unfortunately, Biden doesn't have immunity. Only Trump does. The immunity ruling was very specific: Immunity for an act hinges on whether or not an act is deemed "official" by--and this is the important bit--the Supreme Court. Doubt the Roberts court will see anything Biden does as 'official.'
I cannot help thinking how vociferously he played the “rigged” card in the event he should lose. Always looked like a ploy to me. To keep us from challenging or even looking for rigged outcomes should he win.
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This is like every single person at the table tossing dice and getting a nat 20 every time during the game. Impossible.
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The overwhelming majority of people (including a majority of Democrats) have horrible instincts, about who to trust, for their information, and for political office.
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New vid added from Smart Elections that reviews the "Drop off" ballot data, which indicates possibility of algorithm tampering in swing states.
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Trump could not have won without cheating.
News is a suppressed as the vote in the Deep South.
Vigilante's Inc. documentary covers this, if you haven't seen it!
Now who's going to stand up?
even is states that kamala won, i found the margin between 'no senate' & 'no potus' voters grew far beyond turnout
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it'll be fine - one day - probably- maybe or maybe not.
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Trump won the presidency
Trump won the house
Trump won the Senate
Trump won every swing state
Trump won the entire blue wall
Trump flipped many blue counties in blue states red
Trump increased support in every single demographic except wealthy Whites making over $100,000 per year
We deserve answers.
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Doing things without anyone noticing is the best way to find the evidence, or would you rather the other side know and hide the evidence !?!
Elon is currently holding us hostage and his name wasn’t even on the ballot!
Pooteen interfered in multiple different countries elections recently and the worst people have been put in place, we the people from around the world need to step up and protect our freedoms and democracies if the higher ups can't find evidence !!!
I wonder if the powers that be are working behind the scenes on something. 🤔
I think they are going to ensure a peaceful transfer of power because they don’t want to look like Trump in 2020, when the American people who believed it was stolen were in the minority and ridiculed for it
The cognitive dissonance is strong with you.
Oh, and she had 2 BILLION, and is still $20 million in debt. 🤦♀️
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This goes over some of the screwey stuff. I have other things on my feed regarding the subject. Swing by and have a look-see
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When we're facing a powerful trumplican party that has global criminals at the reins, that's a serious disadvantage. That powerful political party is free to operate outside the laws of this country.
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#PutinsPuppet
No fuxking way!
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To reframe:
Four years of MAGA losing their mind over 'stolen elections' w/ no evidence has instilled a revulsion response in Democrats and made them reluctant to raise valid concerns in the face of irregular results + worrying global trends.
Ultimately we shouldn’t care how we sound as long as we act, and the investigations bear fruit.
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But the thing that clinches it for me (but can’t be called evidence) is that Melania renegotiated her prenup a few days before the election. I’m pretty sure she was on her way out the door. Then they finalized the interference & Orange Julius Caesar pulled her back in.
ICYMI: trump won the popular vote. It’s entirely within the realm of possibility he won all the swing states, you sound ignorant and out of touch to be spouting this low iq crap
Btw I voted for Kamala
Stop litigating this, you sound stupid
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That, or they’re in on it, which also wouldn’t surprise me at this point.
All politicians have forgotten that they are public servants elected to represent the PEOPLE, not to get rich!
There's not even any need for any of them to use Starlink, because they aren't in the fucking boonies.
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check the comments of the CNN or BBC in YouTube, you will be scared.
Where are all the Only Trumpers? What radio shows do they listen to? AZ got abortion and Gallego,so why Trump?
The hypocrisy is absolutely astounding.
Biden supposedly got 81 million votes - the most ever - yet, Harris got 75 million. Where did the 6 million votes go? But, when we said he cheated, we got told we were election deniers.
Pot
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With Musk $$, anything is possible
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The last time no county flipped was 1932 when Hoover lost popular vote by 18%, yet Harris only 1.5%
This seems like a programatic result in such a close race
It's alarming when the last time this happened (no county flips) there was a 35% popular vote swing from Hoover in 1928 to FDR in 1932, compared to 2024 which was the 5 most narrow Presidential Victory in 100 years.
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You realize how strange that claim is, right…?
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And I guess we are just gunna ignore that he is disqualified for office through our constitution unless Congress votes 2/3rds to remove the disqualification?? 🤷♂️🤦♂️ pathetic… 😡
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I don’t understand, given the anti-incumbent sentiment here and around the world, why this truth is so hard for some Democrats to accept.
Edolf & Trunt are freaking out...!!
trump knew had he not been re-elected he would've become the first ex-pres to receive a one way ticket to the big house!
But nothing happens in Washington without spook support, and #DarkBrandon is a total myth. Simple bureaucratic malaise delayed Trump's bust
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Too many inconsistencies, interruptions, foreign interference & starlink capabilities that allowed just the right #s to be added/subtracted into the totals.
They all but announced it before Nov 5
https://open.substack.com/pub/jaredyatessexton/p/a-thoroughly-confused-country-an?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Thats why they kept the big lie alive for four years. They cheated and got away with it AGAIN.
But is this even being investigated?
Feels like they just rolled over😞😡😞
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- Trump, is the media mogul.
- Musk, gets social media like no one else.
- They both cut through the traditional media, talk straight to the people, and win big!
What is stopping the left from pulling off the same shit?
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https://www.justice.gov/criminal/file/1029066/dl?inline
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maintains his radio silence on the whole hacking issue. You'd think he'd at least say he's looked into it and whether he's concluded anything or still looking.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/11/13/fact-check-was-elon-musks-starlink-used-to-rig-the-us-election
(just being devil's advocate I want to check everything)
Over 2 decades of this shit.
Everyone that came to our table said they were voting straight ticket , understanding the importance of dem down ballot. NO ONE made any mention of voting for Trp, splitting the ticket. NO ONE
"I don't need your vote - we have enough votes." & in June Muskrat posted "ANYTHING can be hacked." Idk why they didn't do a recount. Dems didn't do enough to stop him from being president.
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He got himself elected
He did not win
Huge difference
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I work elections, do a lot of canvassing, and the Republican voter suppression is a real. If your vote didn’t matter they wouldn’t be trying so hard to stop you from voting, and suing to throw out ballots.
R’s are rulers not representatives.
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What happened. 👇🏿
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heavy on the WHITE wash ...
by now, if Elmo did anything, it's all been erased.
So the question is, as I don't give Musk cred of being able to write the code .
how many others would be needed .. was it outsourced to Putin?
After j20, Putin will divulge all that was done to corrupt the election…
I mean .. really - what a slap in the face that would be..
Ok Americanskis- now I admit that Russia F’d up your election
Whatcha gonna do now?
(& the ~fun part of this psych war, truth or not boom)
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mentioned/ I am suspicious of anyone’s conspiracy theories. Now - not so sure. Musk has at his disposal the top techies in the world- is assuming a co Presidency role, with no real resistance fro Trump, it gets more and more believable every day.
You here to troll? You’re not going to get very far.
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I’m curious how many “never Trumpers” from 2020 didn’t vote for Harris bc of gender.
Side note: Dems need to stop running coastal elites.
For them personally, it doesn't matter. At least not to the ones in leadership.
Democrats still tried to appease donors and win...
They will always pick their donors first, right until they're led up to the gallows. Delusional.
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The Red States won by "just enough" in the last few days-- interestingly enough, a time when Trump announced "We have a secret "
The Iowa poll was correct.
The momentum was still there.
Something technical happened = Musk
Biden has the right policies. But the messaging was the problem, and Trump, as dumb as his messaging is, had a message people wanted to believe and wanted to vote for.
All I’m saying is that he had a more efficient messaging and that got him votes.
That and sexism with many people who just don’t want a woman in office.
Only by acknowledging WHY he won, and doing some deep reflection about it can the dems actually address the reasons of why he won, and prevent that from happening again.
When the reality is that what people want has nothing to do with those and everything to do with REAL socialist agenda that helps them every day.
But what polls keep showing is that people are in favor of universal healthcare, taxes for the rich, better minimum wage, employment insurance, social security, etc
They want socialist policies. Give them that.
I’m not saying he had anything intelligent to say, or that his « tariffs » ideas were good (they’re not), but talking about it was enough for people to believe that him as POTUS would actually change things (even though any informed person knows the contrary).
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America now is a banana repubblic. 🤣
I hope this is only a joke.
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The hypocrisy is absolutely astounding.
Biden supposedly got 81 million votes - the most ever - yet, Harris got 75 million. Where did the 6 million votes go? But, when we said he cheated, we got told we were election deniers.
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So we fight preemptively. Pass on this article to those you know.
And then we protest. General strikes, marches, online. We fight back while we can. We have to.
https://smartelections.substack.com/p/the-press-release?r=em94l&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true
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There is a subreddit with over 27,000 members doing a deep dive on all of the irregularities, interference and the how,when and why’s of the hacked election.
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The empire that you worship is crumbling right before your eyes
There was a news about some polling stations being connected to starlink, however it has been debunked a way or another.
There is however two things I find highly suspicious :
The Biden and Harris Administration must INVESTIGATE the numerous “integrity issues” associated with the 2024 Election for POTUS!
Please… do your job!
Not that much, in my opinion
Those people were flat out red handed CAUGHT trying to pass fake electoral college votes in 2020 for Donnie.
The secretary of state was seeking to prosecute them for forging state documents.
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Remember Donnie only won by 1.64% over all. The smallest win that i can remember.
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That's what happened.
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the top 100 companies funneling $ to elected officials get >$700 back in govt wellfare for each $1 spent
Yes- this IS ageism- they need to get over it. Very few in their >70s is firing on all cylinders.
The GOP died with its embrace of trump
The DNC died with its embrace of entitlements
FWIW, they argued the 14th amendment couldn’t be used to keep the prick off the ballot. It most certainly CAN be used to keep him from being sworn it.
They’ll just swear in Vance instead, but hell, he’s sane by comparison.
There were dozens of actual constitutional scholars & Bar-certified who could have engaged Roberts etc with much greater competence.
Almost like it was a setup to fail?
I was honestly shocked.
They were given a golden opportunity on a silver platter to end this national nightmare and failed spectacularly.
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@lizcheney.bsky.social had the guts, as did @adamkinzinger.bsky.social
Biden's old enough to not fret about 'rotting in prison' ...
but Biden gave pardons to some of the worst- not sure he's mentally fit
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