This is disheartening and, frankly, disgusting. This just gave a free pass to a lunatic who has all our lives in his hands. I’m so disappointed in the justice system and our country as a whole.
People have very short memories. I really don’t believe anything will come of it. At the most, it might go into history books as lessons learned to act swiftly when dealing with a con man & his henchmen.
Thank you for thinking this through. So many are wringing their hands over this, but fail to understand that Trump, in control of the DOJ would get these dismissed WITH prejudice.
There is at least a chance, albeit small, that these could be filed again in 2029.
There is no chance. The Supreme Court said the President can pardon himself. Eventually, he will have a pardon party for all of the J6 and stolen documents criminals.
The Supreme Court hasn't specifically ruled on that and this guy is dumb enough to not realizes the charges can be brought back and might not think he has to pardon himself, so he might not bother thinking he got away with it.
Justice system failed pretty hard on us people, makes me lose faith in our system, if our own justice system does not want to protect us from criminals who does it then...
Lol. We've been fooled too many times at this point. I have no more hope that anything matters now that he's gotten away with it while we all just have to sit and watch.
Unreal that he's not in prison but going to be in the oval office. Un fucking real.
I would love to see him executed in accordance with the laws regarding treason and whatever else TFG has committed.
I don’t think he will do a day of prison; he is headed for a dirt nap before that will happen. His organs cannot last much longer….he’s a walking time-bomb. JMO
He’s already setting it up, check out his cabinet choices : only picking those who will do what he asks unlike Pence. BTW where is faithful Pence? We all know Trump kicked him to the curb long ago for not doing as he bade him to do
Frighteningly, the Constitution only says someone cannot be ELECTED more than twice. But I suppose it does say something about the length of the term..........Of course, would #45 just ignore the Constitution? Yep.
the two terms is an amendment and before was a tradition due to washington resigning after two terms, but looks like biden might be confirming judges and stacking the courts so this would at least buy us time. the people need to regroup and start forming plans of resistence.
FDR was elected as President to 4 terms, breaking the Washington 2-term tradition. The 22nd Amendment was created bc of that situation. But as someone mentioned, Amendments can be overturned if the Rs/SC do enough unethical things. Or they could find it unconstitutional for some made up reason.
The issue with these morons is they do not know history. They cannot run from their crimes forever and dictatorships have a time limit. Eventually they will end up like Mussolini.
True with 2/3rds of the House and Senate, and 3/4 of the States ratifying it. Good luck with that! They can barely get a 51% majority on most bills.
Also this admendment has been attempted to be repealed over 50 times to no avail.
Exactly. When he said “vote for me this once, and you’ll never have to vote again”, far too many people didn’t quite grasp what he was saying. And MSM just shrugged it off
Exactly. We weren’t joking when we said this election was autocracy vs democracy. And autocracy won (even if not legitimately. But the powers that be don’t seem to be concerned about that). The people who think the rule of law is going to stop an autocrat, don’t understand how an autocracy works
I love this for them. He walks away and they reap the sword of justice. He’ll attempt to pardon them both. Wonder if afterwards they’ll continue to “trust” him? So many lives incinerated.
I hope he can resurrect when Trump leaves office. Although I hope Trump doesn't live long enough to even leave office. Every morning when I wake up and he's still here, I feel disappointed.
Tell me again how Merrick Garland didn’t slow walk this indictment and set it up to fail. Also, what about the others conconspirators, they get to be free too? So only the peons go to jail…until Trump pardons them?
Stop playing this game of giving people hope that the diaper-wearing oompa-loompah is ever going to be held accountable. You, like Mueller, neuter us with complacency and the false hope that everything will be okay. It's not okay and won't be for a long time --or ever.
Jack you had time to get it done. Our of time now. We believed in you and what the fuck were you and Garland doing?. I personally want all our money back that we spent on you guys
Yeah, but trump clearly believes he is staying in office. This idea that he's going to leave that office in four years is folly. Though I firmly believe he'll be in care within 6 months and we'll be stuck with vance till he is somehow removed.
How did he win? He only ran to stay out of jail. Do most people not care or don’t believe he’s corrupt?
Maybe with unlimited money he was always going to win. If he had not we all know on January the house had a plan for him to win anyway. He wasn’t going to jail and uber rich want to stay ahead
The thing is, he's not going to make it. They needed his base to win, they need his recklessness to put the goons in place, but after that he's too unreliable narcissistic and self-obsessed to roll out p2025 smoothly. He's much more useful as a martyr, with Vance in charge, and Dems as a scapegoat.
Nothing says he can't run for a third term. He just can't serve as President if he wins unless our government becomes so corrupt that they plan to ignore this law all together. Who knows at that point unless some other party can win in Congress that will actually follow the law and not twist it.
Candidates don’t run for a 3rd term because there is no point. He will run because he will serve. He knows perfectly well he can’t do it without the help of republicans and the supreme court. Therefore, no more transparent elections.
No point because of the law. I don't disagree and that is why it all depends on government corruption and the party that controls Congress at the time. I'm even on the fence if SCOTUS would ignore this law but leaning that they wouldn't. Midterms will decide I guess.
Exactly. They didn’t want to this time. It’s why Garland waited nearly 2 years before appointing Jack. Why they were slow at dealing with stolen documents situation. Delay. Delay. Awaiting opportunity to drop it
It’s cruelty at this point to tell people there’s still a chance, in another 4 years
Ha! I have no faith in the doj except that it will now be used against its own citizens along with the military, what difference will it make in 4yrs when millions will have perished and gov dismantled!? Elections?? elmo controls that!
Assuming Trump’s DOJ attempts to destroy any evidence they are able to, what can be done to protect it? And given Cannon’s dismissal of the other Trump case was based on severely flawed reasoning what happens with that case?
Honestly, I’d rather him just go. I’m sick of him. I’m sick of his cult. He will never face justice. Just get him off our planet. He’s not the one calling the shots anyway.
This is the reason we won't get any of the evidence released and in 50 years will find out how even more corrupt Trump was than we could have ever imagined.
Oh, puleeze. They failed to do their jobs, bigtime. Period. No glossing over the big fail. It's a sad and dangerous moment for the party and for the country.
The chances are non-existent. A court in 2029 may sit in judgment assuming Trump is still breathing at 89 years old. But even if convicted they won't jail an ex-president of nearly 90 years old who is suffering from dementia. So, Trump got away with it because voters in 2024 gave him a free pass.
Why? He'll probably die before he gets out of office. I think that's what the DOJ was hoping for all along. They really didn't want to investigate him, they hoped he would die so they wouldn't have to hold him responsible.
Assuming he will leave office
in 2028.
I fear once he's in we won't be able to get rid of him
He’ll turn into Putin, Xi Jinging or Kim Jong Un
Forcing everyone to vote for him
If ever there was an example of bloated Government and snail like action, remember the DOJ and all that it was supposed to do regarding, and surrounding, the 2020 election. They really fucked up on this and we got what we deserved as a country because of it.
Our justice system is a full on disaster of a joke. We've all known of the two tier, rich vs poor treatment by it, but this is an all-in, mask-off example of it.
If Trump is 25th Amendmented, can some state attorney prosecute? Pretty sure Vance DOJ would not prosecute but states could in this case I think. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Before his four year term is over, trump will pull down his pants and take a shit on stage, and nobody will be able to do anything about it. Mark my words, because this is exactly what is coming. Literally. The cabinet he is installing will never turn against him. He will lose his mind completely...
From what I understand it was Garland dragging his feet that’s at fault, and Smith did his best with the hand he was dealt. And of course there was judge Cannon, who was on Trump’s payroll, as was SCOTUS.
Probably, but he keeps saying "don't worry, the justice system will do this and the justice will do that" and none of it happens. Sure sounds like he's responsible for asking to dismiss this latest one. I just have no faith anymore.
Trump will never be out of office. The public doesn't understand. He knew he was going to win, and his words about never having to vote again come from the same valid junk pile. It will be Eric next, or Barron. Democracy is over and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
It's time to call an end to the We'll-See-Justice Theatre.
A huge account grew because "Trump is going to prison. And it's not even 6:00." Enough.
The chatter distracts—I know it can be cathartic, but blathering about him for the past 4 years has gotten us ... him.
There's got to be a better way.
Can be though ? A blanket pardon on something not het charged would be out of his scope wouldn’t it ?
Smith doesn’t have to refile under the same charges
He's got some state charges which aren't supposed to be pardonable by the President. But yeah, Trump doesn't usually let little things like that get in his way. We shall see. I'm pretty sick of living in unprecedented times.
The biggest thing is Jack left it to the people. The evidence is preserved to be brought by a Congressional body… which means 2026 we can put a Dem Majority in House & Senate and they can use for impeachment & trial
The OLC rule that ended Jack Smith's prosecution suggests the President carrying out his duties undistracted is more important than holding him accountable for possible criminal activity. But we elect a Vice President as well. Why could he not take over as happens when the Pres is ill
The only person in this country who is completely above the law is DJT. If he lives another 4 years, considering his age, obesity and onstart of dementia, he'll be too old and senile to send to trial. He got away with all of his crimes and more. It's a sad day for America.
For the interest in justice…is oxymoronic when I comes to the facts of what brought this case in the first place!! Let’s face it the facist felon won. Now we have to live with the consequences! People will suffer!
I hope they find a gaudy bathroom at a second rate country club that they can store copies of the case files in the event the files at DOJ get "misplaced".
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There is at least a chance, albeit small, that these could be filed again in 2029.
How do we clean out the corrupt SCOTUS?
Otherwise we’re in big trouble!!
Unreal that he's not in prison but going to be in the oval office. Un fucking real.
I don’t think he will do a day of prison; he is headed for a dirt nap before that will happen. His organs cannot last much longer….he’s a walking time-bomb. JMO
btw, amendments can be repealed.
Also this admendment has been attempted to be repealed over 50 times to no avail.
one.
We really elected Musk & Putin.
We've witnessed the overt hostile takeover of American democracy.
Citizens United was the Trojan Horse that got wheeled in, allowing billionaires to operate freely.
I'm sure he'll try to pardon himself.
SO FUCKING DO IT ALREADY YOU COWARDS
Maybe with unlimited money he was always going to win. If he had not we all know on January the house had a plan for him to win anyway. He wasn’t going to jail and uber rich want to stay ahead
absolutely kidding yourselves.
It’s cruelty at this point to tell people there’s still a chance, in another 4 years
I can easily see it written like N. Korea and trump was called the supreme leader 😡
This is a massive failure by no other than the Biden Administration and the Democrats.
Keep their feet to the fire, don't let anyone responsible for this failure, including Kamala, to come close to be a nominee again.
I mean, we no longer going to skip over the obvious, right?
That hasn't been a winning strategy, so far.
Winchester justice
Not good days.
in 2028.
I fear once he's in we won't be able to get rid of him
He’ll turn into Putin, Xi Jinging or Kim Jong Un
Forcing everyone to vote for him
Our justice system is a full on disaster of a joke. We've all known of the two tier, rich vs poor treatment by it, but this is an all-in, mask-off example of it.
In four years he will have destroyed everything so what is the difference?? 😡
He needs to do it now 😡
A huge account grew because "Trump is going to prison. And it's not even 6:00." Enough.
The chatter distracts—I know it can be cathartic, but blathering about him for the past 4 years has gotten us ... him.
There's got to be a better way.
Smith doesn’t have to refile under the same charges
The biggest thing is Jack left it to the people. The evidence is preserved to be brought by a Congressional body… which means 2026 we can put a Dem Majority in House & Senate and they can use for impeachment & trial