They refuse to wear masks after covid, because oppression! Let them do what they want this time around. Let them reap the consequences of their brilliant conspiracy theories. Let's stop trying to fix the intellectually challenged.
We went from “Birds aren’t real” to “Birds have the potential to end us” pretty quickly. 👍 of course, this would mean the dinosaurs would wipe out humans, and I’m okay with that… weirdly…
Is there some Divine message here that because tRUmp keeps getting elected God sends us another warning shot? Covid & now bird flu? Are we screwed or what???
Well, With Covid, many initially were elderly, and with HIV the majority at first were gay. IMO it doesn't mean that it is okay if they die as long as I am not in one of those categories.
Ominous. My #NJ county was ground zero for Covid, 2 hospitals near me cleared entire areas for triage, people died by hundreds daily. It was beyond frightening. I just hope this bird flu is not an airborne virus & is more difficult to spread. We’re in deep 💩 with the incoming #Badministration. 🤦🏼♀️
Will Trump & his clown posse throw out the Guidance Instructions for getting thru a Pandemic again? And us without an experienced & knowledgeable Dr Fauci type.
Serious. But not human to human. If it does do that we are talking about a 50% mortality rate. Covid was 1%. We have vaccine deniers in office. Mask deniers.
We don't actually know what the cfr would be. *Part* of why bird flus are so bad in humans is the H5. H5 binds low in our respiratory tract where infections become very damaging. H1, H2, H3 are what flu needs for human to human. Receptors for those are higher up.
H5N1 been around since the mid 90s. For it to make the leap to human to human, it needs to infect someone already infected with an H1, H2, or H3, recombine with it and package the new variant, and then that person needs to go spread his new virus around. Obv has happened with other flus, but it's ..
A rare event, and as above, it's had almost 30 years to do this and has not done so yet. The problem now is that it's world wide, giving the event more chances. It is obv horrible in birds, so could be in humans. There are vaccines developed in the 90s which do seem to be effective still. We have ..
bad management at the top now, so that's scary if it happens in the next 4 years (except there's already a vaccine and a template for it if it needs tweaking). Food supply: this is the biggest issue rn. It's already affecting our eggs and chicken meat supply. That will continue.
Thank you for your expertise! Your replies are enlightening. I'm not a bio kid and really disliked biochemistry (when molecules pass ~350 amu, I stop being interested).
Oh, thank you! I used to teach this stuff, and influenza in particular, but it has been a loooonnnng time. One of these days, I will refresh my memory and try to convey what I know, as well as what I don't know.
Thats kind of important of a distinction. Covid was new in terms of how much we knew about it. I should also think we need to be careful about not setting panic.
We'll also have a vaccine really quickly once the genetic mutation that leads to h to h transmission is identified and the genetic code of the "current" dominant strain can be used to create said vaccine. Of course having an anti vax HHS secretary in your country may not help things!
Be selective where you get eggs. Backyard breeders may not know if their birds are infected. Handling eggs from infected chickens could pose a risk if proper precautions are not taken.
Scary stuff.
Backyard breeders will be far safer than mass production operations. Symptoms are clearly noticeable right away to anyone informed and paying attention - but in either case it's rare for a chicken to survive it.
I have friends who just got back to Canada from the US. All sick. Weird sore throats where breathing is challenging. Tastebuds gone. The world is sick. Not good.
Key being. It's a red cultists state so no vaccinations are a problem. I'd have a travel warning now before the orange turd takes over. Red states aren't safe long as cultists Republicans run them.
You mean millions more after covid? What if the orange blasphemy dismantled our pandemic response as part of a plan to inflict the pandemic? Why else did the do-nothing dismantle it? Not reasonable given Trump is a lazy taker, knows little about our government, & refuses to do any homework.
You'd think as Xtiany maga claims to be they would see this as a message from God. Alas no. They will probably blame pasteurization or the drones did it or demons in their underwear.
I will no longer eat Chicken & Beef (rarely do now) Maybe Texans will worry if they can’t eat beef ribs & steak (or it will cull off 20 million Texans) Red States ❤️ Chicken & Beef …
The Louisiana Department of Health said on Monday that the first U.S. patient hospitalized with H5N1 bird flu had died, noting that the patient was over 65 and had underlying medical conditions.
Yes, completely ok. I text a friend of mine who keeps chickens, "just in case", however & let him know what had happened & asked him to "please" wear an N95 when he worked with his chickens & if ANY of them looked sick to NOT touch them since it could very well be H5N1 in his flock. All I can do.
Let’s be clear, this *is* and *always was* contactable if you’re working in close proximity to bird populations, as this man was. Please follow CDC. No human2human contagion reported, known/low chance, as of now.
People have been dying of H5N1 for 20+ years, and it has not expanded to pandemic level, so I think that there is no need to panic buy toilet paper again, right now, but, if we start getting human to human transmission, good luck.
2 isolated cases together point to the potential for the virus to morph into dangerous new forms, experts have said.
The news “should remind us that H5N1 has been & continues to be a dangerous virus, Dr. James Lawler, a director of the University of Nebraska’s Global Center for Health Security.
This is not going to go well if I'm listening to a few friends in healthcare. We're not to that point, but should it start tipping this way - it's going to really bad.
Not always. A “patient zero” might by an unwitting carrier without symptoms. Not all who carry get sick. This is why vaccines are important, along with other measures put in place during a pandemic.
Since 2015, when the Onion suddenly turned into a prediction engine instead of satire, I lost all ability to detect hyperbole, sarcasm and most forms of humour. All I have left is some depths of hell black humour.
I said it before, Bobby Brainworms can prove us all wrong by voluntarily exposing himself and then curing himself with horse meds, raw milk, and hydroxychroloquine.
#you1stBobby
Johnson’s lyin lips: “That’s right, no more Obama Care..”
(smirking)
🫣in his head: “that’s right ya dumb ass! We’re taking away ALL your welfare state healthcare!🤨”
back to Lyin Lips:…”we’re going to turn it over to the hospital’s & doctors for” …BS
Exactly. No worries, no problem. Heck, masks aren’t even needed. But I have heard that bleach and ivermectin will kill any of these so-called bugs. 👍🏻👍🏻
Sorry abt the all Caps: the vaccine has already been in production. I supposed he could shut it down. I am concerned too, but some things become self-promoting. If ppl R dying the vaccine becomes self-promoting. Nothing changes plans like the accusations from scared ppl hitting you in the face.
Don't worry ABC, tRump will give you more sensational headlines soon! He f'd up Covid, I'm sure he can kill more people this time round. Just think how much they'll save on Social security & Medicare and the fees for Healthcare companies to cream off!
I don't know what to believe anymore, including about Covid. I don't mean that I'm an anti-science idiot, I'm just getting whiplash and have been since the beginning of Covid.
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The second pandemic to be handled by Trump and the first with RFK Jr in charge.
We are fucked.
Joy unconfined!
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/12/20/nx-s1-5223440/louisiana-ban-public-health-promoting-covid-flu-mpox-vaccines-landry-rfk-jr-anti-vaccine
Unfortunately a third of the country proved President Leon’s point about being morons
Scary stuff.
You'd think as Xtiany maga claims to be they would see this as a message from God. Alas no. They will probably blame pasteurization or the drones did it or demons in their underwear.
Sounds like
Deja Fool.
All vaccines are BAD?
The world is already suffering from the rampant STUPIDITY VIRUS!
STUPIDITY is deadly!
https://www.statista.com/chart/33683/cumulative-number-of-confirmed-h5n1-cases-worldwide/
The news “should remind us that H5N1 has been & continues to be a dangerous virus, Dr. James Lawler, a director of the University of Nebraska’s Global Center for Health Security.
“Someone doesn't have to weaponize the bird flu. The birds are doing that.” - Dr. Ellis Cheever – Contagion (movie).
🙄
And with Trump in office, everyone will be on their own if it does.
Disease knows the GOP is on its side.
I know what I'm doing. I just watched Trading Places. Pushing a specific snake oil is like getting the real crop report early.
Well, entitled grandkids, it appears that the inheritance will be going to Best Friends Animal Sanctuary. 😁
#you1stBobby
Johnson’s lyin lips: “That’s right, no more Obama Care..”
(smirking)
🫣in his head: “that’s right ya dumb ass! We’re taking away ALL your welfare state healthcare!🤨”
back to Lyin Lips:…”we’re going to turn it over to the hospital’s & doctors for” …BS
When you have 15 people … within a couple of days it’s going to be down to close to zero.
It’s going to disappear. One day – it’s like a miracle – it will disappear.
Oh, were so fucked.
If not, can we try again?
HHS oversees the CDC.
Vaccines take time to develop. My point was RFK Jr could shut it down.
But they've also found a couple of farmhands, who had antibodies against it, but hadn't been sick enough to get tested for it.
It's mostly animals of all kinds who are found dead with the H5N1 virus
Ffs, here we go again.
The elderly and vulnerable don’t matter.
I was just talking with my MIL about how many cases were showing up.
And of course we have the science deniers taking office…. Because of course. 😩
https://youtu.be/-yot3EfLFI0?si=PEMeqnjzpCAPI2Ky
#nextPandemic
SMH 🤦🏽♀️
And lo, ABC shall comply, so that its coffers may stay full.