Man Who Shot Store Owner for Flying Pride Flag Was a Far-Right Conspiracist He posted anti-gay and antisemitic conspiracy theories, and followed and reposted Jordan Peterson and Matt Walsh. www.vice.com/en/article/n... - ThreadSky

bencollins.bsky.social • 567 days ago

Man Who Shot Store Owner for Flying Pride Flag Was a Far-Right Conspiracist

He posted anti-gay and antisemitic conspiracy theories, and followed and reposted Jordan Peterson and Matt Walsh.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7ed4q/laura-carleton-pride-flag-shooting

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seanhelling.com•567 days ago

What were the odds?

nohomers.bsky.social•567 days ago

Those two have blood on their hands

pipthebadger.bsky.social•567 days ago

unsurprising, normal USA shit

theunorthodox.bsky.social•567 days ago

Guy who was born yesterday: “yeah not even I am surprised by this”

marionette.bsky.social•567 days ago

The least surprising news ever

blupotluv.bsky.social•567 days ago

Article says his X platform still up. I don’t have access to X anymore (was kicked off) so wonder if that is still the case. Can anyone else verify?

jenannie.swifties.social•567 days ago

can confirm

freedom2b.bsky.social•565 days ago

1. Ben! Thank goodness you're here.

2. I hate that guy.

nsqe.bsky.social•567 days ago

My surprised face. It is over here somewhere.

rooker.bsky.social•567 days ago

I, for one, am shocked

motherboy.bsky.social•567 days ago

I just looked at his profile on Twitter- he was a Christian Nationalist and I think that’s important to highlight.

waxmonkey.bsky.social•567 days ago

we're going to be seeing a lot more from this group of angry assholes in the next decade i imagine

motherboy.bsky.social•567 days ago

Many of them have come to the conclusion that it’s time to execute non-believers.

feralcat.bsky.social•567 days ago

I’ve felt “relatively” safe in my area until the past few years. Steven Carrillo was here. Proud Boys flooding the school boards and their now constant assault on lgbtq existence

waxmonkey.bsky.social•567 days ago

bunch of y'all qaeda motherfkrs

motherboy.bsky.social•567 days ago

It is comparable, however, Christianity has always behaved this way. Christianity has an unearned assumption of goodness and it’s time to call it out. How many times have you seen stories about people, those doing bad or good or in-need, that highlights they are “church-going” as an appeal?

privateideation.bsky.social•567 days ago

This. Christianity is, historically speaking, a violent faith with violent adherents who engage in regular acts of genocide. The Quakers are an exception, Torquemada is the rule.

gorskon.bsky.social•567 days ago

Definitely. His X feed is full of scary shit.

ganweaving.bsky.social•567 days ago

No surprise there.

ellipticalnight.bsky.social•567 days ago

try "average ass republican"

wagatwe.com•567 days ago

wow, shocking. 💔

mlamb.bsky.social•567 days ago

The media calls this a dispute.

snotrocket.bsky.social•567 days ago

Bullshit. It’s a hate crime. They really need to stop that crap

mlamb.bsky.social•567 days ago

Media whitewashing at its finest.

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

crazy how the democratic president has done literally nothing meaningful at all to protect the LGBT community during this now years-long terrorism campaign. who can say why people aren’t excited about him running again.

feverspell.bsky.social•567 days ago

You don't need to be excited. This is politics, not a Tinder date. I'm sick of the argument that voters need to be "excited" to go to the polls. I'm 41. I've been voting since 2000. Al Gore didn't "excite" me. Neither did John Kerry or Hillary Clinton. They were still the better choices.

whensmthcries.bsky.social•567 days ago

And that's why things will never move forward, because you lot are content to settle for absolutely fuck all so long as somebody promises to be worse. Your vote is earned, and "the lesser evil" cannot be your only measuring stick, or nothing will ever get better.

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

exactly. they’ve been lying to us that incrementalism would work for decades and expect us to still buy the same bullshit.

feverspell.bsky.social•567 days ago

I don't see the point in either voting third party or not voting at all because doing that is just a vote for Trump, and this country can ill-afford to hand that festering anal pustule the nuclear launch codes again. If you live in a state where you can get away with that, fine, but I don't.

whensmthcries.bsky.social•567 days ago

Then look to something other than just voting as your primary source of options. There are a thousand and one ways in which you can push for change, and voting is pretty damn low on the list. The powers that be made certain that its impact would be thusly limited decades (or centuries) ago.

whensmthcries.bsky.social•567 days ago

Put it this way: there is a civil rights protest going on in DC this Saturday. All the time and effort you spend telling people they shouldn't criticize Biden would be better spent on things like that, as it'll achieve far better results

feverspell.bsky.social•567 days ago

Yeah, no. I'm a realist. Biden isn't perfect. He wasn't even my third choice in 2020. However, if my options are Biden or Trump, that's like asking if I want a well-done steak or a turd sandwich. I don't like well-done steaks, but I like them a hell of a lot more than turd sandwiches.

whensmthcries.bsky.social•567 days ago

You have a third option, you know. You can vote for whoever you want, and then you can shut the hell up about telling people they should be content with what they get. Just because you voted for Biden over Trump does not mean Biden hasn't been THOROUGHLY and UTTERLY inadequate as a president

tr0yster.bsky.social•567 days ago

South Park level political views 🤦🏻‍♂️

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

lady, your generation is more conservative than mine by a lot. go talk to your friends if you want to be a condescending bitch about voting habits.

feverspell.bsky.social•567 days ago

If you need to be "excited" to vote against Trump, one of the biggest threats to the United States in the country's goddamn history, then something's wrong. Grownups realize that sometimes you have to vote for someone you're not 100% enthused by because it's the right choice.

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

sure sounds like a biden problem if people who nominally agree with him on many things don’t want to show up. i’m sure you attitude will definitely convince people on the fence!

feverspell.bsky.social•567 days ago

LOL. I'm a Millennial. Since when are *we* the conservative ones? I don't know a single Republican under the age of 50, and I live in a very red part of North Carolina. My generation is the one that came of age protesting Bush the Lesser's invasion of Iraq.

whensmthcries.bsky.social•567 days ago

And look where that got you, sitting and arguing that "nothing will get better" is perfectly fine just because "things will get worse faster" is also an option.

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

sorry, aging is tough on all of us.

feverspell.bsky.social•567 days ago

The best part of this is you think you're serious. I was born in 1982. That's not Gen X. I turned 18 in 2000. That's the exact definition of a Millennial.

But, you do you, boo-boo. It's adorbs.

postradamus.bsky.social•567 days ago

Galaxy brain take. Voting is not something you "have" to do. You can do it, and being excited makes it a lot more likely you will do it. If you don't want to, aka you aren't enthused, you won't.

captainahab.bsky.social•567 days ago

Idk why you're acting like criticizing Joe Biden for failing to be a rhetorical leader on LGBT rights is the same thing as not voting.

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

i never even mentioned the idea of not voting lol they can’t even let people say they’re not thrilled with the situation without attacking

craftylefty2126.bsky.social•567 days ago

*taps the sign

postradamus.bsky.social•567 days ago

any amount of time he spends on idpol is time he isn't spent doing things that actually matter

ericisgood.bsky.social•567 days ago

your attitude is exactly why the current two party electorate state is a failure and american politics is nothing more than a façade for the corporations that rule this country (and I'm 11 years older than you, and voted and campaigned for nader so sit this out imo).

jamtoday.bsky.social•567 days ago

What are you expecting the Executive Office to do at a Federal level?

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

pretty sure that there’s a civil rights division over at the justice department! merrick garland should stop stalking hunter biden and check out texas and florida! i do believe i was also promised the rquality act? but he remains against filibuster reform. he can also advocate for court expansion.

goodwithcolour.bsky.social•567 days ago

Honestly what is it with so many democrats like “he’s the president, you can’t expect him to care about anything enough to say something!”

jamtoday.bsky.social•567 days ago

He has dobe that, what on earth are you talking about?

goodwithcolour.bsky.social•567 days ago

I’m talking about you and your like’s pathetic whining when anyone expects the president to take a stance on meaningful policies, just because the president can’t do it solo. Genuinely sad.

gregbowne.bsky.social•567 days ago

You should call your congresspeople and let them know where you stand!

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

i have a collection of form letters from dick durbin and tammy duckworth’s offices already, thanks! you’ve just proved my point! they don’t listen or give a fuck!

jamtoday.bsky.social•567 days ago

Everything you described needs to happen at the Congressional level or within the DOJ, which does not take direction from the EO (and if you think *POTUS* was directing the DOJ to focus on Hunter I don't know what to say to you, that is just an insane proposition on its face. Completely bonkers.)

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

maybe the president should’ve appointed someone who would do their job then. if garland sucks; that’s biden’s fault. he hired him. sorry, you won’t argue me into supporting politicians who don’t care about me. btw, how’s biden on immigration? those are his choices.

captainahab.bsky.social•567 days ago

Joe Biden is the leader of the Democratic Party and should be the nation's leading liberal rhetorical voice. He's been a better president than I expected but he's failing pretty badly at being the leader of the party.

gendermaelstrom.bsky.social•567 days ago

So far our efforts to summon Dark Brandon have been a failure sadly. I think we need more goats blood. Can you bring some more black candles? I think there is a small adjustment to be made to the summoning circle.

jamtoday.bsky.social•567 days ago

I think he's done a bang up job, given the needle he's currently threading. Politicians and activists are two different roles played by different people. The reason he has been so effective is because he understands the realities of global politics. I don't know why people underestimatesld him.

booksandbows.bsky.social•567 days ago

what specifically do you like and approve of about his immigration policy?

captainahab.bsky.social•567 days ago

It's very cool that he's just letting Abbott abuse the TX National Guard when he could just federalize them and order them back to the barracks at any time.

jamtoday.bsky.social•567 days ago

1) I'm disappointed every Russian national didn't have their visa canceled. 2) As long as we're going to have some of the loosest immigration laws among developed nations we need to ensure that areas that feel the strain (eg border towns) have funding and infrastructure that meets their needs.

captainahab.bsky.social•567 days ago

The president is supposed to be the rhetorical leader of their party. Trump understood this. So did Obama (he was way better at this than actually being president!)

Right now no one in the party is really fighting back rhetorically on this stuff. Vivek has more of a media presence than Biden does.

jamtoday.bsky.social•567 days ago

Obama let the DNC die on the vine! It was completely broke, the 50 state strategy was DOA by the time Hillary showed up. Come on, jack.

paulduane.bsky.social•567 days ago

what a surprise, I am entirely taken aback by this development

rjsliva.bsky.social•567 days ago

But I have been reliably informed by bluecheck commenters on that other site that hE wAs HeR bRoThEr

anoosh100.bsky.social•567 days ago

Our local Mommies Dearest for Liberty chair is parroting this on her social media.

rjsliva.bsky.social•567 days ago

Considered unblocking my RW brother just to see how hard he’s riding this particular bandwagon, decided jabbing an icepick into my eyeball would be more refreshing

sandrookdynekayla.bsky.social•566 days ago

I'm being extreamly serious. If the 3K can still be a thing. If the Nat-zee can still be a thing. If people who publicly bully people with threats and harm online.

What, freedom, is this when it seriously threaten's and has killed an other?

Publicly, get them in trouble. Behind doors, ick but fine

shawnweaver.bsky.social•567 days ago

I am shocked. Shocked, I say.

blueeyedhexe.bsky.social•565 days ago

Like Ashley Babbitt, that woman's blood is on the hands of Trump and our new fascist party. With Margery Taylor Green leading the way with eliminationist rhetoric like this.

pdxcorgidad.bsky.social•567 days ago

I mean....yeah. Appreciate the confirmation but yeah. We all knew. My father and older brother are like that, so it was easy to see. MAGA = bigotry, and it sucks.

feralcat.bsky.social•567 days ago

I’m sorry about this

dickslander.bsky.social•567 days ago

Pretty sure Travis Ikeguchi’s dad is a Florida State Trooper named David J Ikeguchi

https://www.flhsmv.gov/florida-highway-patrol/member-recognition/silver-star-award/master-trooper-david-j-ikeguchi-silver-star/

dickslander.bsky.social•567 days ago

Mom Is Janet who filed for divorce from David In California https://unicourt.com/case/ca-ora-janet-ikeguchi-vs-david-ikeguchi-876256

jmgallo.bsky.social•567 days ago

Of course he did

lizardky.bsky.social•567 days ago

I assume “false flag” and “antifa infiltrator” claims will be coming soon.

galdireonai.bsky.social•567 days ago

Oh those were out in force the moment the first news of the murder hit the net.

lizardky.bsky.social•567 days ago

I gotta admire the dedication of those antifa infiltrators, though, willing to be arrested, tried, and imprisoned for decades, life, or possibly executed, all to make MAGA look bad.

galdireonai.bsky.social•567 days ago

It's also fun to see the "false flag" and "true hero" people get into fights over it.

lizardky.bsky.social•567 days ago

Oh, they are true doublethinkers, in Orwell's sense. They believe that the J6 rioters are simultaneously undercover Feds AND victims of oppression.

(I'm sure soon we'll get 'MK-Ultra Mind Control' made this peace-loving patriot turn violent.)

ri.oldfolkshome.org•567 days ago

Looks like the excusers picked a different route -- falsely claiming the murderer was her brother and that it had nothing to do with anti-LGBTQ stuff.

deadmoney.bsky.social•567 days ago

Liberals are too weak to crush the purveyors of this poison legislatively, and the left possesses too much empathy and morality to give them what they truly deserve.

The only winning move left in America is suing them into oblivion, I guess? Which I hope the family does.

feralcat.bsky.social•567 days ago

Do they have the focus? I despair

sitnspinster.bsky.social•567 days ago

Germany took great strides to educate and tamper hateful ideologies after the war. We are doing nothing.

pisfrednorris.bsky.social•566 days ago

Dead criminal was a homeless loser, so that's right out.

deadmoney.bsky.social•566 days ago

Not the rubes - the people propagandizing them to commit atrocities like this.

anoosh100.bsky.social•567 days ago

Please note he was virulently anti-LGBTQ _and_ antisemitic. We need to be building coalitions against right-wing hate, because their hate is not limited to silos, whereas organizing IS.

hipstersasquatch.bsky.social•567 days ago

He was also a racist piece of shit.

7amkickoff.com•567 days ago

In other news: water still wet, dogs like steak.

gmoneydc.bsky.social•567 days ago

Yep .. Dogs do like steak

7amkickoff.com•567 days ago

we need a NYT thinkpiece on it before we can have a definitive answer. maybe something by Maureen Dowd

gmoneydc.bsky.social•567 days ago

Until then I’ll roll with anecdotal

7amkickoff.com•567 days ago

My own dog is a huge fan of raw chicken. I've had her on the barf diet for a couple years now. but I guarantee if I made her a steak she would eat the hell out of it

redistrictgirl.bsky.social•567 days ago

Say it with me - stochastic terrorism

deepcocoa.bsky.social•567 days ago

I did not know this term and now I do. Thank you.

blemley.us•567 days ago

Damn. Who would’ve seen that coming

wohyeahwohyeah.bsky.social•567 days ago

This is him

pereubu.bsky.social•567 days ago

"LGBTQP" - what a surprise, not.

jillbles.bsky.social•567 days ago

kentparkskeet.bsky.social•567 days ago

Religious?

freedom2b.bsky.social•565 days ago

Very.

lostscot.bsky.social•566 days ago

Seems like it.

kentparkskeet.bsky.social•566 days ago

I reckon many religions need to take some responsibility for their words.

Religious people need to sort out what their religions really are, instead of washing their hands of their more extreme members.

kwh561.bsky.social•567 days ago

That’s great but we still just are left to wonder; how was he radicalized?

angrypandapoet.bsky.social•567 days ago

Surprised face

dallas-taylor.bsky.social•567 days ago

Unpossible!

detheros.bsky.social•567 days ago

mikemattatall.com•567 days ago

Surprise?

ttmitch.bsky.social•567 days ago

A lot of right wingers were trying to push the idea that the killer was her brother - where did that crazy shit come from?

panik.bsky.social•567 days ago

So the Right wing push to demonize the LGBTQ community has led to far right lunatics to lash out violently at the LGBTQ community?

Almost like the wrong people are being demonized. Bigots need to become enemies of the state instead of just its people

Lock up bigots

hipstersasquatch.bsky.social•567 days ago

One of his favorite things to do was to drop into any conversation about LGBTQ people or events or topics, and scream some variation of "WHO CARES?" in allcaps.

Makes me think all the creeps who do this should be added to a social watch list to keep an eye on them, or something.

hipstersasquatch.bsky.social•567 days ago

Based on the guy's feed, he and reality were not on good terms. Just completely obsessed with right-wing conspiracy theories, and a raging bigot.
And super, super enraged at the existence of LGBTQ people, who he considered one and the same with pedophiles.

hipstersasquatch.bsky.social•567 days ago

Living in a version of reality that was being heavily-curated by RW and christian nationalist grifters, and had cut off everyone in his life who didn't agree, he seemed very isolated.

He still knew right and wrong, and that killing someone was bad. He was not insane, he was just a fucking asshole.

zandywithaz.bsky.social•567 days ago

What a shock

eichbjornchen.bsky.social•567 days ago

Oh woah. Would've NEVER guessed that. :/

maraleia.bsky.social•567 days ago

Peterson and Walsh should be arrested for this. They are fomenting hate crimes.

peteromal.bsky.social•567 days ago

The Fantastic Stochastic Terrorism Duo...

daveid.bsky.social•567 days ago

Musk is to blame, too, at least indirectly, for reinstating and promoting these accounts.

"The shooter also followed and boosted rightwing professor and conspiracy theory promoter Jordan Peterson, antivax activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr, and the right-wing satirical website the Babylon Bee."

plainwhitetom.bsky.social•567 days ago

It's almost like propagandizing bigoted and fascist rhetoric leads to real world issues and crimes.

Jordan Peterson and Matt Walsh should be made painfully aware of the reality they're manufacturing. Unfortunately they block anyone they disagree with.

freedom2b.bsky.social•565 days ago

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