Unpublished docs for review of mutual obligations / targeted compliance framework that form spine of employment services reveals the govt cannot be sure the system is legal or working. Review won't report until after election. ACOSS refers to Ombudsman. www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-cri... - ThreadSky

squigglyrick.bsky.social • 102 days ago

Unpublished docs for review of mutual obligations / targeted compliance framework that form spine of employment services reveals the govt cannot be sure the system is legal or working. Review won't report until after election. ACOSS refers to Ombudsman. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2024/12/07/exclusive-jobseeker-payment-system-errors-prompt-review

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leinsterlad.bsky.social•102 days ago

Surely the case for the UBI to replace this absolute convoluted shit-show is justified more than never ?

Base UBI set at tax free threshold with tax free additions for disability / special needs etc.

The actual $ savings would be huge !

squigglyrick.bsky.social•102 days ago

It really would be!

rosiedekat.bsky.social•102 days ago

💯🎯 #UBInow

squigglyrick.bsky.social•102 days ago

Department of Employment DID end up telling C'wlth Ombudsman about its problems, but not until last Wed... a day after I put in my first lot of questions about what was then still a secret issue. They updated them again this Wednesday... a day after my second set of questions.

leodwyer.bsky.social•102 days ago

Oh how I wish we had more like you!
Top notch work, Rick!

gardenbirdnerd.bsky.social•102 days ago

Thank you Rick for your hard work and determination to find truth.

philboz.bsky.social•97 days ago

Now where have all the “back room boys” from Robodebt ended up? We know some went to the NDIS. I think the ATO found a home for some. Did the Dept of Employment put out the welcome mat for any of them?

eddybourke.bsky.social•102 days ago

They've also never responded to various calls to publish the source code of the TCF or any other algorithmic decision making tools they use. I suspect they have no idea how it actually works themselves.

skasaha.bsky.social•102 days ago

Even if they were somehow forced it's not like anyone would actually get charged with fraud for it. They operate outside of the law.

janeoakley.bsky.social•43 days ago

And even if referred to the NACC we know that wont achieve anything

kelanoa.bsky.social•42 days ago

NACC would sit on it for a year, then announce "nothing to see here".

eddybourke.bsky.social•42 days ago

Such a disappointment.

fetchstep.bsky.social•102 days ago

legality has need been a issue for services Australia . We saw from #Robodebt , #centerpay and now this that using illegal programs to push government policy is what these departments do .
The failure to punish #Robodebt crooks has given the go ahead to continue with this illegal practice .

sunnymezz.bsky.social•102 days ago

Your work is outstanding Rick, thank you.

rcjw.bsky.social•102 days ago

This sentence pretty much says it all -

“A study of the impacts of mutual obligation on 6,253 unemployed people showed that people who were not subjected to mutual obligations found work more quickly.”
👍😎😱

tickboxed.bsky.social•100 days ago

Murray Watt has essentially admitted that Mutal Obligation is useless & only exists "to meet public expectations". No moral leadership, nor authority. Just tyranny of the majority and a government willing to oblige.

rotimanmk2.bsky.social•102 days ago

28mil to clean up a private companies environmental mess, 475mil to encourage private mining firms to pay a pittance in tax on their profits 300+ bil for The Emperor's New, politically expedient, Submarines. Millions on parliamentary travel, allowances & staff. But WE have Mutual OBLIGATION!

nick-higgins.bsky.social•42 days ago

NO. Sorry, but ONLY YOU have the obligation. The government can do what the fuck it likes. And this privilege has been granted to the For Profit employment agencies.

mischef.bsky.social•102 days ago

Mutual agreement is cruel and unsustainable for the unemployed who can’t get to interviews . The stress on these people.its like debt collectors. Gov CES please.

katzrantz.bsky.social•102 days ago

I found out why I'm getting texts of a Saturday morning from DEWR telling me I've been selected to provide feedback, despite having a medical certificate removing my mutual obligations till January, with login id and access code. First one was last Saturday at 11 am, and the same twice this morning.

chris60.bsky.social•102 days ago

Hey Rick, out of interest, do you know if these are 'inherited' errors or are of this government's making?

squigglyrick.bsky.social•102 days ago

It's a somewhat artificial distinction. The TCF was a Coalition era policy, introduced 2018, and voted against by Labor. But the broader compliance / employment services system is a bipartisan project and, a full term into govt, Labor has kept the TCF and the broader system with some minor tinkering

chris60.bsky.social•102 days ago

Thanks heaps Rick, I understand and really appreciate the quick response. There's so much often self-serving and bad bipartisan policy, that I find it difficult to keep up!

squigglyrick.bsky.social•102 days ago

TCF is a uniquely cooked fever dream of 'compliance'. But most compliance in this space since privatisation has been geared toward making the "caseload compellable" -- their words! -- which has the happy* bonus of allowing providers to make a profit / stay in business. Without it, they don't exist.

chris60.bsky.social•102 days ago

Caseload compelable...Good grief!!!...thanks again, although my newly gained knowledge hasn't made me any happier 😅
A glass of red and a bottle of Belhven Ale will put it into perspective tonight 👌

chriswhatshername.bsky.social•102 days ago

This prompted me to write to Murray Watt immediately.

I suggested that as you have done the review for him, that he should pay you accordingly.

MO and the TCF is cruel and a waste of everyone's time and money, imo.

squigglyrick.bsky.social•102 days ago

I will happily take the $1 million+ cheque

chriswhatshername.bsky.social•102 days ago

So they damn well should pay you.

sunnydarkgreen.bsky.social•102 days ago

Yeah but the money is to keep your mouth shut.

For next time, typical Big4 consultancy spec =
30mins googling: $1000
30mins writing: $1000
6 months stalling so govt 'cant comment while inquiry ongoing': $498k
submit report to govt that already knows: free
10 years of STFU: $500k

roseannebyrne.bsky.social•102 days ago

You earned it. Our government have not.

chriswhatshername.bsky.social•102 days ago

Wow

binchicken24.bsky.social•72 days ago

My Dog, this is robodebt all over again. I despise these people 🙄 😒

pollytics.bsky.social•102 days ago

Lol - "Maybe it's legal, maybe it's working" is a hell of a governance aesthetic.

squigglyrick.bsky.social•102 days ago

Maybe it's Maybelline!

theweatherboard9.bsky.social•102 days ago

Nah, the cover up is so incomplete... Cheaper foundation.

arbcc.bsky.social•42 days ago

Could be Avon

mettabhavana.bsky.social•101 days ago

Equivalent to, “Is this thing on?”

roseannebyrne.bsky.social•102 days ago

Oooh what happens when you decimate the public service and fill it with contractors who basically don’t give a shit about people or service or the public good? Crap. That’s what happens, absolute crap. #auspol

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