WSJ: “.. Fully unwinding the department would require a filibuster-proof, 60-vote majority in the Senate, legal experts have said. .. The draft order doesn't mention Congress.” @wsj.com www.wsj.com/politics/pol... - ThreadSky

carlquintanilla.bsky.social • 2 days ago

WSJ: “.. Fully unwinding the department would require a filibuster-proof, 60-vote majority in the Senate, legal experts have said. .. The draft order doesn't mention Congress.”

@wsj.com
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/draft-of-trump-executive-order-aims-to-eliminate-education-department-5315c3a4

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wholegrains.bsky.social•2 days ago

They sure want us to fail, don’t they.

mssmart.bsky.social•2 days ago

That’s so wrong.

pbee02.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s very clear that there needs to be some sort of oversight rules put in place on Presidential executive orders. Trump should be the first and last to abuse this power.

rozrk.bsky.social•2 days ago

Please make sure that if you have or know anyone who has a child with special needs or accomodations, they will need to rely on state to support your educational needs.,(IAPs) poor states will give your child poor support. They all voted trump. Like marching into a arena filled with lions.

threezerotwo.bsky.social•2 days ago

🙏🏼

ww444.bsky.social•2 days ago

When the Right Wing Media starts see the truth about this Gangster like administration maybe there is hope to shut some of these inane ideas of this Cult in the Oval down!

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3ljpd6v5og22t

ellymae.bsky.social•2 days ago

They want to dumb down our country even more.

augustsp.bsky.social•2 days ago

Eliminating the Dept of Education is like making the USA a third world nation. Education is the key to progress & prosperity & productivity to millions of Americans.

logicalpineapple.bsky.social•2 days ago

Hey here’s an idea. Why don’t we keep these people working and tax billionaires? If we did we would have a surplus of money. They wouldn’t even miss it, their fucking billionaires. Anyone knows what the tax rate was in 1979 for people who made a million? Remember,when we had a middle class?

eilrach.bsky.social•2 days ago

We need to teach labor movement basics. Unions educated their people about their rights and negotiated for more. And largely supported Dems. But in the union-busted states I think there is no real knowledge of what should be happening, and which party wants to help.

logicalpineapple.bsky.social•1 day ago

I used to be astounded how corporations and rich guys could get workers to hate unions. Now I understand. They are the undereducated that trump so dearly loves.

eilrach.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yeah, the term right to work sounds good but is really a drive to the bottom on workers rights. I am really happy to see new unionizing efforts in food service and retail support services.

logicalpineapple.bsky.social•15 hours ago

Well here’s an update to trump and musk’s assault on labor.

eilrach.bsky.social•12 hours ago

Fortunately, the Union will be well prepared to protect it’s workers.

amamazed.bsky.social•2 days ago

Herr elon is already working a way around that...
Presumably with supreme court blessing.

broken-bones1.bsky.social•2 days ago

How will education be standardized then, if each state is responsible for their own curriculum? The U.S. already ranks below other countries. How will this help improve that? Future generations will not be getting a fair chance in the world.

jkz12769.bsky.social•2 days ago

Red States will teach the Bible only. Blue states will fare better with education.

damdae.bsky.social•2 days ago

Krasnov 47 will issue an executive order with his big sharpie on toilet paper and GOP will see nothing wrong.

bobf4321.bsky.social•2 days ago

They will regret cutting Dept of Education. How else will they make Russian the second official language?

bunnyamendt.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump is literally Vladimir Putin's little bitch. Donald Trump is doing exactly what his master Vladimir Putin asked him to for Russia. Donald Trump has always hated the United States of America and Democracy. Trump is a National Embarrassing Failure of a President.
https://youtu.be/Zn9BTALjtLY?.

steveg.bsky.social•2 days ago

They just cover their ears with their hands and move forward. Law be damned.

larryarcher.bsky.social•2 days ago

The American "Cultural Revolution" led by Trump is in full swing. Stupidity rules the day.

invictusghost.bsky.social•2 days ago

Get ready for a huge property tax bill. If Federal Funding (Part B Funding) is removed from your state, all Special Ed Services will be paid in Property Taxes, especially if they do away with Medicaid.

lapisbluenote.bsky.social•2 days ago

Seems like the Red states are going to suffer the most. Wonder how populations will shift over the next few years. People who need services may move to Blue states, and would that strain their state resources? Red states are basically insolvent without Fed $. Lots of changes here.

jbrownblue.bsky.social•2 days ago

Irreparable harm should be easy to prove in court.

hobbesjosh.bsky.social•2 days ago

Good thing he will terminate the Constitution

oldgreymare.bsky.social•2 days ago

Wait a minute. As the head of the department, her first order is to shut the department down? Is that it? Then what would she be the head of? Or is she just an assassin? HUH? Could someone explain this to me? Explain it like I am a 5-year old.

twitterxsucks.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's a joke.
Against immigrants but Trump hires immigrants and allows rapist in.
Up is down, down is up.

They said they weren't the Nazi party for 8 years only to embrace fascism when Trump says I'll be a dictator on day one. But they're owning the libs.

nellie43.bsky.social•2 days ago

Why is closing the Department of Education surprising. trump has been saying this....forever!

mapleleafdavid.bsky.social•2 days ago

Majority of educated people don't vote for Republicans. No wonder they want to close it. Trump loves the poorly educated for a reason.

tomuch2do.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sounds like we need to home school our kids. This administration has gone crazy

stevetommo67.bsky.social•2 days ago

The problem is,Democrat run schools have not educated the children in the schools,they been teaching them shit,that really is not important,and because of that America and Americans are blinded by what America really is,and what they should be able to do about it..So forgive me if i dont get angry.

jamiestevenson72.bsky.social•2 days ago

Because they need more uninformed (aka dumb) voters.

abridley.bsky.social•2 days ago

Won't this be worse for the poor red states?

katecohenart.bsky.social•2 days ago

Absolutely and it’s going back to the time when POC had little to no money for books and subpar buildings. Totally a White Supremacist move. I’m disgusted.

gregsanderson.bsky.social•2 days ago

Project 2025. It was all there. 12 June 2024.

"The document labels the FBI a "bloated, arrogant, increasingly lawless organization". It calls for drastic overhauls of the agency and several others, as well as the complete elimination of the Department of Education."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

nicegitch.bsky.social•2 days ago

Justice Roberts will be the judge of that, thank you very much.

noreenbaca.bsky.social•2 days ago

Watching him try to read a letter the other day tells me all I need to know.

wbrind.bsky.social•2 days ago

There it is. I was told about this yesterday. I was also told the Government Shutdown is expected to last several weeks.

bobf4321.bsky.social•2 days ago

Under Trump, Congress is impotent. Why is that? Details please.

csweden.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yet again illegal actions- he working hard at upping his felony count. Although coup and treason should be weighted heavily

ktimes2101.bsky.social•2 days ago

He is destroying DOE WHICH HELPS CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES LEARN! IMPEACH THIS JACKASS!

treefrogjohn.bsky.social•2 days ago

"I don't need no stinkin' Congress"

cgiracello.bsky.social•2 days ago

Did you own the libs yet?

@carlquintanilla.bsky.social

lisasopinion.bsky.social•2 days ago

Make America Dumber

dugganpubs.bsky.social•2 days ago

How's he going to eliminate boys from girls' sports if there's no Department of Education to dictate that?

polowbp.bsky.social•2 days ago

This is insane

mcdonaldbucket.bsky.social•2 days ago

DT is making sure no one can learn to be smarter than him.
I heard they were starting with preschoolers

smellytoe.bsky.social•2 days ago

I wish the press would put more coverage into the series of fails this administration has suffered in their effort to govern by EO. They keep stepping on rakes and not nearly enough coverage is showcasing their ineptitude.

davemc5192.bsky.social•2 days ago

DOGE, FAA, USAID, IRS & the rest. It’s all illegal & all unconstitutional, that’s not the point anymore

Who’s gonna stop him? That’s the point, cause so far nobody is

wholegrains.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yeah, he’s thanking the Supreme Court for letting the Insurrectionist Clause to be ignored.

shernova.bsky.social•2 days ago

A coup

profsensible.bsky.social•2 days ago

Another one

onlynow.bsky.social•2 days ago

so Krasnov signs all these orders which can never be implemented - an EO cannot negate a law without Congress. All for show on tv

robertkal.bsky.social•2 days ago

Carl, you're like the only reporter that knows how to report on trump. The piece you quoted should be the friggin headline.

theviolenceoftruth.bsky.social•2 days ago

to all you rich idiots that voted for this stupid idiot, your rich today because of the investment in America through education. You all would have been poor ass dirt farmers a 100 years ago with out it.

nufcnuf.bsky.social•2 days ago

If they do this, tens of thousands of low-income and first-gen students will lose face-to-face support programs at our high schools and two-year and regional colleges. Thousands of grant-funded staff fired in towns nationwide. An example of one program: https://www.ed.gov/media/document/fy-2024-sss-awards

nufcnuf.bsky.social•2 days ago

I know this particular program very well if anyone has questions.

econ-001.bsky.social•2 days ago

if you just fire them all, same effect though?

froedipus.bsky.social•2 days ago

The EOs have always been seen as a work-around of Congress. Unsure how an EO carries the force of Law, when the POTUS expressly doesn't create laws.

swgeneralmills.bsky.social•2 days ago

dog-mom24.bsky.social•2 days ago

It seems that in order to eliminate the power of any department would only take a president willing to pause funding, pretend to start and then pause it again. Nothing runs without money and the certainty of receiving it.

imdoctorremulak.bsky.social•2 days ago

They're going to kill it either way.

Congress doesn't matter anymore.

pjmacwriter.bsky.social•2 days ago

Illegal AF.

tzipshmil.bsky.social•2 days ago

There is no Congress anymore

iamharleydavidson.bsky.social•2 days ago

huardsmith.bsky.social•2 days ago

Repubs in Congress don’t want to deal with messy votes, if they even could given current filibuster rules. Leadership in both Houses want all of this to happen and are only too happy to let Trump kill these departments and agencies. They’d take back their power in a second if a Dem became POTUS.

vcat11.bsky.social•1 day ago

It's not just about tariffs. It's not just about trade. It's not just about negotiating tactics. It's not just about firings (and rehirings). It's not just about Ukraine. It's not just about NATO. Widen the lens. It's about everything. This isn't 3 dimensional chess. It's stupidity.

sinker1234.bsky.social•2 days ago

Have u been awake for the past few weeks?

tempvsfvgit76.bsky.social•2 days ago

Congress doesn’t matter. The Supreme Court will back this up. The education dept is just another pussy and trump has it in his grasp.

lmh82.bsky.social•2 days ago

Only Congress can create or reorganize agencies. Presidents must have congressional approval to do so, and TFG doesn't have it for anything. Not DOGE, not DoE, none of it.

jstpshply.bsky.social•2 days ago

Considering Congress is ceding their authority, this doesn't seem like it's much of a problem for him.

gvern.bsky.social•2 days ago

Bullshit he can't just destroy a department

redp0ny.bsky.social•2 days ago

This administration is acting like the 2024 election was the last election. They are completely dismantling the government. They are open and vocal about inflicting pain on American citizen. They feel they’ll fully control the 2028 election.

dircut.bsky.social•2 days ago

Illegal

jatman.bsky.social•2 days ago

King Donald I decrees "NO MORE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT!" and Congress fawns over his great wisdom.

balanceinnature.bsky.social•2 days ago

Of course he wants to unravel a department that promotes and furthers the education of American citizens. Trump needs voters to be uneducated, poor, and demoralized in order to perpetuate his grievances and hate. Educated individuals are free thinkers. He can’t have that.

catznjam.bsky.social•2 days ago

Oh, okay, whew! That won't ever get 60 votes - so why signal their intentions to do it, if they know they don't have the votes?

catznjam.bsky.social•2 days ago

There's got to be protections for Cabinet Departments, doesn't there? Where's the ACLU? Where's the legal eagles?

juliatowe.bsky.social•2 days ago

If he's eliminating the department, why do we need a Sec of Education?

katdid.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump ruling by executive order is a clear violation of the constitution

txstbobcat.bsky.social•2 days ago

So she was hired to eliminate her job?

fairfaxindc.bsky.social•2 days ago

Is anyone wondering why China is so far ahead in science and technology?

Education.

factbased4evr.bsky.social•2 days ago

First plan of action, Trump demonized teachers and professors for being elitists and indoctrination, and maga goes for it. Moms of liberty goes wild.

Second plan of action, get rid of dept. of education with only half of the possible pushback.

txstbobcat.bsky.social•2 days ago

Fun fact. In order to fully take advantage of education, you must first have food. Children cannot pay attention in school if they are sitting at their desks hungry or do not have proper nutrition.

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cg13.bsky.social•2 days ago

Donald Trump is a clear and present danger to the health, safety and well-being of our country and the people. Especially to us working class and poor people. Trump does not give a damn about us. Trump only cares about himself and his greedy despicable wealthy friends. Disgraceful and Detestable!

graberp.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump’s edicts never do mention it. Autocracy at its slimiest.

napeungae.bsky.social•2 days ago

Stop paying student loans. No DoE, contract is broken. Starve them.

olddoxielady.bsky.social•2 days ago

Problem is - they are doing whatever they want with zero concern for what is “legal.” None of them care what the actual process should be. And there doesn’t seem to be a lot of pushback. The judicial is in his pocket too so even legal challenges may not make a difference.

csweden.bsky.social•2 days ago

This is the consequence of the Supreme Court ruling that nothing he does as president is illegal. He can also decide as president to stop all elections and crown himself king and according yo the Supreme Court it’s not illegal!!

joshuafaile.bsky.social•2 days ago

It’s cute that legal experts, even now, think the fascist regime care about trivial things like “legality” or “constitutionality”.

jus-waiting.bsky.social•2 days ago

Exactly! What makes folks think RULE BREAKERS care about rules?? Helloooooo

jvsylvester.bsky.social•2 days ago

I think everyone should draft personal Executive Orders that declare themselves exempt from paying taxes to the illegitimate Musk/Trump regime.

They'd have at least as much authority, arguably more.

jus-waiting.bsky.social•2 days ago

Love it!

joshuafaile.bsky.social•2 days ago

Fascists do not care about the law, the constitution, norms, civility, morality, ethics, efficiency, efficacy, stability, diversity, equity, inclusion, or justice.

And they certainly don’t care about me, you, or anyone else beyond how we can be used as a means to their ends at any given time.

wholegrains.bsky.social•2 days ago

And Rupert pretends he can control what he set in motion.

jus-waiting.bsky.social•2 days ago

100% Facts!!

bunnyamendt.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump has the worst poll numbers in the last 70 years.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Y7Qjvfa0p7Q?si=osQBoTKYxgEhpW_I

bruceomalley.bsky.social•2 days ago

Don't forget decorum fascists love to lean on it but never observe it themselves

milkweed.bsky.social•2 days ago

Yeah not counting on funds being distributed as appropriated. Parents have to decide soon whether to send their kids to public school next year when we don’t if they will get their money and if the federal government will control the curriculum. As for the kids with disabilities, they’re fucked.

kb-sherman.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's not like trump or his acolytes plan these things. They just throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

bunnyamendt.bsky.social•2 days ago

Democrats endorsed Democrat Marianne Williamson in 2024 because Education is more than a pathway to a better job; it is a gateway to a more empowered life. Good universal education is essential to a democracy because it gives the tools to all citizens to succeed.
https://marianne2024.com/issues/education-policy/

sybilltrelawney.bsky.social•2 days ago

McMahon will dutifully start dismembering the DoE and will keep going until the courts stop her. In the meantime irrevocable damage will be done.

profsensible.bsky.social•2 days ago

How will the courts stop her?

sybilltrelawney.bsky.social•2 days ago

There will be litigation. Presumably there will ultimately be an injunction. But it make take a long time, because there will be an appeal and it will go to SCOTUS. And who knows what happens then. So I can’t guarantee that the courts will stop her.

dugganpubs.bsky.social•2 days ago

Injunctions don't have to wait until the whole court process plays out. That's the whole point of an injunction. But it's true that there's no guarantee the courts will stop it.

mccloysong.bsky.social•2 days ago

Why the fuck does this orange moron get so much final say about everything?!?! FUCK MAGA

dugganpubs.bsky.social•2 days ago

Is that a rhetorical question?

steeltown.bsky.social•2 days ago

congress, who needs congress anymore. in fact why do we pay them at all?

shinola.bsky.social•2 days ago

Because the powerful don't want an educated public to think critically. Nope. It doesn't serve their interests at all.

reparsons.bsky.social•2 days ago

Republicans like it better when people can't think for themselves. Contact your Republican rep and tell them this is wrong (and probably illegal)

jeffjero.bsky.social•2 days ago

Sad day for America......depth of education ation...wow wait til the MAGAs realieze their kids with IEPs or special programs...it goes away.

mstoney.bsky.social•2 days ago

Until they are forcefully stopped, illegal and unconstitutional are meaningless.

That’s called a coup.

contractjames.bsky.social•2 days ago

A king doesn’t care about Congress.

masitax.bsky.social•2 days ago

Draft the lawsuits now.

labroid.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump is gently easing the clueless into the idea that he does not need congressional approval. As though his speech to Congress having no legislative agenda wasn't already the message

margiem.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump and his phone line don’t work much. But you can leave a message Tues-Thurs 11-3. 202.456.1111 so call!
You can email too.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

jkz12769.bsky.social•2 days ago

So he only works 3 hrs, 3 days a week. What a lazy asshole!! He wants to call Americans lazy.

margiem.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump and his phone line don’t work much. But you can leave a message Tues-Thurs 11-3. 202.456.1111 so call!
You can email too.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

margiem.bsky.social•2 days ago

Trump and his phone line don’t work much. But you can leave a message Tues-Thurs 11-3. 202.456.1111 so call!
You can email too.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

margiem.bsky.social•2 days ago

Call your reps and
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson
(202) 225-2777
Majority Leader John Thune
(202) 224-2321

margiem.bsky.social•2 days ago

Call your reps and
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson
(202) 225-2777
Majority Leader John Thune
(202) 224-2321

dontcallmesurely.bsky.social•2 days ago

What is this Congress you speak of?

kesskasay.bsky.social•2 days ago

More make-work from the Trump Team.

lemonmeringuepi.bsky.social•2 days ago

I had to turn off CNBC with druggie lutnick lying, unchecked by 3 people, over every question, letting him run on with "fake news", trump circle jerking, and constant "it's about fentanyl at the border" bullshit. As we all know it is not about the drugs.

fry69.dev•2 days ago

Gutting the education department to the point that it cannot work anymore can probably be done without congress super majority?

If destruction without replacement etc is the goal, I think executive orders can do a lot of lasting harm.

kahe1848.bsky.social•2 days ago

This. Is. Illegal.

abelsantanave.bsky.social•2 days ago

GOP needs the dumbasses and idiots to vote for them. Keeping them uneducated is in GOP's interest.

crabapplejones.bsky.social•2 days ago

Falls under the
If You’re Famous, They Let You Do It Clause of the Constitution

njkid.bsky.social•2 days ago

It's not about actually getting things done, it's about making it look like Trump is actually doing anything. They know full well that most of the EOs are unlawful and will not stand, just like they know the headlines they get makes it seem like Trump is actually doing something to his followers

lorenzosunflower.bsky.social•2 days ago

Greenwich, Connecticut should apologize.

brianthomas56.bsky.social•2 days ago

Ok. We need to relax and take a deep breath. Do not play into Trump’s playbook. Create our own. Our current education system created the voting block who elected Trump. We don’t need Federally sponsored education that would do that again. No Agency can keep me from being educated. Let him sink.

mypdt.bsky.social•2 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/mypdt.bsky.social/post/3ljplof5ahk2k

mypdt.bsky.social•2 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/mypdt.bsky.social/post/3ljpfa5cc6k2w

czarofangola.bsky.social•2 days ago

Given the Supreme Court doesn't believe in norms, why should we expect anything normal. Once the Constitution is meaningless why have a country? The Republicans already know 2024 was the last election and Democrats are acting like things are normal.

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