for 9 months unemployment on a minimum wage job was $1k because of dems passing CARES, then ARPA extended it 6 months and reduced it by $200 along with $250-$300 per kid per month if making less than ~$115k. 3 months after arpa passed congressional approval among dems went from 60’s into the 30’s - ThreadSky

starshine.bsky.social • 6 days ago

for 9 months unemployment on a minimum wage job was $1k because of dems passing CARES, then ARPA extended it 6 months and reduced it by $200 along with $250-$300 per kid per month if making less than ~$115k. 3 months after arpa passed congressional approval among dems went from 60’s into the 30’s

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starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

i don’t like this information but it’s true and one’s theory of change should not rely on it not being true

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

the other thing is theyve been pretty explicit about their desire and ongoing attempt to deny benefits to immigrants, first undocumented then expanding

thats the reality of CARES 2.0 or any new relief under trump. its herrenvolk enfranchisement and dems shouldnt vote for it

qed2.bsky.social•6 days ago

IMO the takeaway (of the last 10 years?) is "Americans are consumers first, and respond to marketing and sales tactics" and Trump figured this out first, and Dems still mostly haven't

splainer.bsky.social•6 days ago

A tale of two Presidents.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/inside-donald-trumps-stimulus-checks/story?id=77534116

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-regrets-not-signing-name-covid-checks-trump-1235199950/

christosilvia.bsky.social•6 days ago

It is the case that "people thought the benefits were too generous". I don't like this but it's true

proudanselmo.bsky.social•6 days ago

Too generous for other people. Sure, *I* deserve these generous benefits, but my neighbour is a lazy bum, and shouldn't get squat, so it's better to cancel the program altogether.

aaronhuertas.bsky.social•6 days ago

One of the reasons I’m moving most of my work out of political communication is no one is investing in alternative media at scale and maybe 10 / 500 national level Democrats understand the attention economy.

commadork69.bsky.social•6 days ago

at this point if a theory of change doesn't explicitly work with or against the principle of "if americans view you as in charge and things get worse, they blame you" then i just dismiss the whole thing out of hand. anything that doesn't acknowledge that dynamic is gonna be built on sand

sqep.bsky.social•5 days ago

Yeah. The truth is most of the US public is not politically aware or informed.

The main reason Trump won was simply because voters associated the 16-19 economy with him and the economy under Biden with Biden.

Like this is deeply dark but we have research to back this up.

oneiriccanid.bsky.social•6 days ago

Fuck, man.

thewanderingjew.bsky.social•6 days ago

yeah. Manchin's almost directly responsible

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

just horrific person going back and forth with his daughter to see who can immiserate the most people

thewanderingjew.bsky.social•6 days ago

It's also just so like...I don't think he could tell you why it was so important to him. He just felt it was wrong

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

black people buying tvs and drugs. like literally that was his reasoning

embracebecoming.bsky.social•6 days ago

He axed the child tax credit because he thought poor parents would spend the money on drugs. A rock solid case for purging people like him from the party.

thewanderingjew.bsky.social•6 days ago

way back in 2009, the stimulus was capped at an arbitrary number for no reason other than it kinda felt right to Collins (and Olympia Snowe)

p1huycke.bsky.social•6 days ago

Also Bernie Sanders almost killed it completely over a misunderstanding until some staffer from Chris Dodd explained it to him on the floor IIRC

wengerplz.bsky.social•6 days ago

Blaming one person takes responsibility off the president and rest of Congress, and simultaneously makes them look entirely feckless

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

You’ve got the house, president, and 49 of the 50 necessary senators locked in to vote for this. how are you suggesting forcing the 50th guy to vote for something he refuses to vote for

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

Also it’s three days before Christmas and If you don’t get the vote done in the next day or two the government shutsdown

wengerplz.bsky.social•6 days ago

You’re right, the president of the US and leader of the party has no way to influence or persuade a senator. Though I think the current president has shown that’s the not the case

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

the funniest thing about nihilist doomers is they have so much rosier picture of the world then the reality and obstacles we face

jjinandtonic.bsky.social•6 days ago

[robert moses voice] blackmail and intimidation, maybe a bribe if you’re feeling nice

jjinandtonic.bsky.social•6 days ago

Jokes aside, yeah no way in hell Manchin would have moved, knowing as he did that he’s basically an irreplaceable dem senator due to his position in west virginia

thewanderingjew.bsky.social•6 days ago

dark Brandon fight club

chrisfumo.bsky.social•6 days ago

SINEMA even more responsible if you were paying close attention throughout 2021; Manchin didn't particularly care one way or the other

Sinema spent the entire year working with Senate Rs to deliberately tank BBB

chrisfumo.bsky.social•6 days ago

Sinema, by the way, only got into the Senate bc Schumer personally cleared the primary field for her back in 2017; without which she wouldn't have come anywhere near the Democratic nomination for that senate seat

chrisfumo.bsky.social•6 days ago

Schumer chose her because she was the most right wing person in the entire state who was willing to claim they were a Democrat, by the way

unavaleable.bsky.social•6 days ago

The response to CARES/HEROES/ARPA is genuinely a black pilling moment

starshine.bsky.social•6 days ago

so many people claiming to be on the left arguing, albeit non explicitly, for clinton/carville triangulation was so gd depressing

i do think it ultimately comes down to dems have zero means of message distribution beyond shoveling a boatload of cash into ads but man it sucks

kevinleecaster.bsky.social•6 days ago

Republicans benefit from the fact that they have way more supporters who are willing to defend and boost their policies and actions on social media whereas most people on the left side of the aisle spend their time on social media complaining about Democrats' actions etc.

sameoldstory.co•6 days ago

Demonstrated with a post right below yours, haha

energetic-nova.bsky.social•6 days ago

This really sucks.

brawnvivant.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think a lot about how when Republican electeds did things the base didn't like they called them RINOs and when Dems do it the base says "I hate the Democratic party"

proudanselmo.bsky.social•6 days ago

It's also the type of messaging. People don't want to hear about what you've done to help make their lives better, they want to hear about how the other side has made their lives worse.

erichluepke.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think that is basically why I stopped calling myself a Democrat. They didn't believe in message distribution which is presumably why they caved on the CR, which was the last straw for me.

If they are useless then why should I associate myself with them? For my own gain? They don't pay me!

wafflecut.bsky.social•6 days ago

My approach to politicking in the aftermath of all this is basically just the serenity prayer

bmorelisa.bsky.social•6 days ago

Inflation was hitting hard as the financial help was discontinued. I watched my grown kids with kids struggle. I heard the complaints everywhere and was very frightened that voters would blame dems and credit Trump for the good times.

tektology-enjoyer.bsky.social•6 days ago

The contrast is pretty striking - there was a genuine State of Exception and Dems fell over themselves trying to end it and distancing themselves from helping anyone. vs Trump making up States of Exception to do his idiotic tariffs. They shoulda let it ride - no one gets thrown off Medicaid ever!

tektology-enjoyer.bsky.social•6 days ago

The Medicaid Unwinding really does stand out as being needlessly brutal, and yknow what, if it's that vs "if you wound up on Medicaid during the plague you've just got it forever" the latter is strictly better.

unabla.bsky.social•6 days ago

Spot on!

Chifley said it well in 1947: people vote on their hip pocket nerve.

For the first time ever, the COVID response gave Americans a taste of a proper welfare state and they loved it. Taking it away is an overlooked major factor in the Biden/Harris popularity problem.

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