I'm waiting as my coworkers realize the leopards have the rumblies that only faces will satisfy. At least the hold time let's me know who votes where as they try to convince me its not so bad. First bite will come and I'll ask them how it feels each step of the way. Can't hide from your choice dinks
Things being cheaper while the world is on fire, neofascist take over, women reproductive rights are erased, and capitalist oligarchs are in control is not precisely a good tradeoff my dude. Go back to X
I don't care which is number 1. But if you have an issue with China being number 1 Blane capitalism. It incentivises going to the cheapest option. American manufacturing will never be as cheap unless they pay workers less. That's how capitalism works.
#1 for domestic oil and gas.
#1 for planes (Boeing)
#1 for medicine
#1 for infrastructure
#1 for clothes
#1 for clean air and clean water
#1 for education
#1 for vehicle manufacturing
#1 for vitamins, minerals and herbs, etc.
#1 for health and longevity
Now you know.
The Biden/Harris Crime Syndicate IS ABOVE THE LAW, and the "GREATEST DOMESTIC TERROR GROUP" in the history of our nation was NEVER patriotic MAGA, it was the DEEP STATE intelligence community that performed a coup in 2020 and installed said syndicate.
I recently read an analysis that claimed that support for the democratic party over the recent three decades has switched from lower class to mostly educated property owners. IF this is true, then many of us who voted on principle rather than vibes will be better equipped to withstand the turmoil.
I disagree. The only way that you can force through someone not facing cognitive dissonance when something is so clear and obvious as this has been is to really rub the salt in the wound.
They have to really be broken down if there is any chance of salvaging any capacity to see their mistakes.
My thoughts on this are mostly based upon my own experience as someone who was raised in the deep South to be very Republican. I held those beliefs strongly until conflict was slammed into my face. At that point I stopped believing in free will and started thinking about the concept of earned will.
Earned will, or free will earned through conflict, is the idea that people won't be able to confront their viewpoints until a conflict arises to force it. In this instance, the FAFO situations are a perfect place to get people to face these conflicts and consider their viewpoints.
The reason that these people may need to face more than just the reality that they were wrong and may need to have it rubbed in their face like salt in a wound is because of something called the crystallization of intelligence. Basically as time goes on people are less resistant to new viewpoints
I like to throw it out there that most Trump voters genuinely believe Harris is giving sex-change surgeries to undocumented immigrants and are against gender-affirming care for minorities. They didn't not know Trump will hurt our rights, they just didn't care.
That's defeatist, and not particularly introspective, right?
Sure, not being decision makers, *we* couldn't have done much to better improve people's material conditions, but how are these people connected with?; not just the message, but also it's delivery, and by whom?
I will never understand how people in the US could vote for such a complete buffoon, not once but twice. This year I really got invested in the presidential race, thinking every time he spoke that people must see how stupid that man is but nope… never getting this invested again.
Firichu: that's a rather stubborn determination not to understand. I mean, what if you slip in a library so that you're accidentally reading Hannah Arendt's book "The Banality of Evil"?
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Refusal to understand is not moral high ground. It will not save us, nor will it save anyone else.
It’s not refusal as much as it is bewilderment. As for your analogy, I don’t think it correlates, it’s not as if most people were trying to vote for Harris but their pen slipped and they accidentally crossed in Trump. This was people actively choosing to go to vote for him.
If you express bewilderment at the sky getting dark every 24 hours, then that's stubborn refusal to learn about the rotation of the Earth relative to the Sun. I mean, experts have studied the phenomenon, and drawn conclusions, yet you are bewildered? have you considered reading a book on the topic?
I live in an agricultural community that relies on migrant and immigrant labor. I KNOW that the farms will fail without those people. I'm going to remind local farmers that this is exactly what they voted for when they aren't able to harvest their crop. EVERYONE will suffer the consequences of Trump
really let me help legal migrant workers will not be affected illegal violent aliens will be deported. then the illegal migrants. people like you are the reason they won
I’ve worked in several restaurants and bars throughout my life. Every single one of them had “that guy” who was either a line cook, dishwasher, busboy, ect who without them the restaurant would not survive on a day to day basis. They almost always spoke no English and worked harder than anyone else.
Though it depends on how you define responsibility, it is an interesting question. So interesting that I thought I'd ask ChatGPT...which was not much help as you can see! 😅
Well, I said something along those lines to a friend of mine who voted for Trump, when I reminded him of Trump's vow to cut Social Security and Medicare. He flatly told me that won't ever happen. He's going to be 73 and his wife is 63. Well, I guess we're going to find out, one way or the other.
You voted for THIS! Trump would never do this! EVER! What next, Biden going to get him a Government job?! #LucyLawlessness #PardonMeSir #WhatHappenedToNoOneAboveTheLaw
Some people died of covid-19 in 2020 while denying, with their last breath (or one of their last thousand breaths), that covid-19 was anything other than a Chinese hoax. Did you say "we told you so" to any of those people? If so, then how did that work out for you?
This won't happen anytime soon tbh.
They'll blame Dems for any near term issues.
Only the nominal swing/non voting dipshit will turn. Those people, I have less sympathy for than MAGA. At least MAGA will celebrate getting fucked.
I think a lot of liberals and apparently some leftists are misunderstooding that it's not like we want a bad economy (neither do I wanna get put in a camp but that's probably out of the question at this point), it's that if we get a bad economy, the people who voted for Trump deserved it.
But revelling in people's suffering because some of the sufferers are Trump supporters instead of wanting to help people through the tough times ahead is just wrong.
I mean, they revel in our suffering all the time. Hell, they voted for the people who revel in our suffering. Obviously, I wanna help people, but helping people who don't want our help or just do stuff to screw us over isn't something I care to do anymore.
They voted to strip healthcare from millions, deport millions, bankrupt millions, deny abortion rights to millions, legislatively attack millions of LGBTQ people, and likely ended democracy and caused a depression. People are gonna die from this admin. Again. Schadenfreude is all that is left.
The people who didn’t vote but could have are just as guilty as Trump voters. We do this same crap all the time: 2000, 2004, 2016, now 2024. The left doesn’t seem to learn from the past.
Again, I honestly don’t care. I don’t care if Trumpy voters suffer as they didn’t care that I’m going to suffer when they decided to vote for a convicted felon, rapist and pedophile.
Right? Their attempts at a catch22 in this conversation is so pathetic for they are still the ones who supported the impending horrible admin they even are admitting will harm themselves now. The only gotcha claim maga hasn’t been brave enough to make is one to themselves
making some assumptions there. the idea that any MAGA is capable of self realization, seems unlikely. But, even if they could, they wouldn’t accept help from liberals, even if it was offered.
And after we say "we told you so" well build a bridge, invite them into the coalition and destroy maga in 2026 and 2028. If people are willing to admit theyre wrong theres some shaming thats standard, but we cant afford to shut these people out when we are the underdogs now
omfg. Harris lost the election BECAUSE she was chasing these people. stop trying to get the votes of people who hate you and start EARNING the votes of the people who used to like you
It’s weird how all these former Republicans are advocating for more Republicans in the Democratic Party, but not more marginalized groups. I wonder why?
There’s so such thing as a perfect campaign, and the one she ran wasn’t good enough to get the job done. Make any counter argument you want- that’s perfectly fine, but it wasn’t good enough.
There are 10’s of millions of people who legit believe she ran a perfect campaign despite the obvious loss, spending $1B and being $20M in debt. It’s honestly hard to tell /s from someone myopic way thinking sometimes
I can assure you that my white MAGA relations regret nothing. They are looking forward to deportation camps for the foreigners and don't believe prices will rise because they're all brainwashed idiots. Even if prices rise, it won't be Trump's fault. They'll find some Dem to blame.
To be honest, I think that MAGATs are too bought into the cult. They can have their social security, tax credits, education, and environmental protections stripped away but they still will support Trump. They’re captured by far right propaganda. I know this because I used to be one of them.
Left twitter cuz it’s full of bots and not real. As for sane, each pick makes it more clear that competency and experience isn’t a priority for Trump, loyalty and conspiratorial thinking are. Maybe you’ll realize how silly your decision was when you learn that tariffs don’t help your grocery bill 🙃
I saw a graph showing republican irrational exuberance in the economy during the trump years, with a short dip during the march 2020 crash. They’ll never realize that they are suckers lol. But that doesn’t mean we still can’t say I told you so, and refuse to render any aid. Homeless MAGAt? Laugh.
Still 50 days to go you clown. Will he tidy up the shit left behind? I hope not. I hope the United State is reduced to elementary particles by Putin’s inter continental ballistic missiles.
Absofuckinglutely...I've known about Project 2025/Agenda 47 for over a year trying to warn people what is coming and I was ignored,called it was horrific to think this could happen in America...well again we told you so
the FO part of FAFO. Coworker who I tried to inform her was being lied to…..now just ask “how did this happen.” Sad. Not sad for her. Sad they drug the rest of us into this nightmare
Well... The Dems are really the far right for the rest of the world.
You see someone about to die and the best thing you can think is "yeah, die 🗿, you voted". This and all the transphobic jokes confirm to the rest of the world that you are just a far right party.
Except Biden is leaving behind a country that is energy independent, on the cusp of reindustrialization, low jobless rate & shrinking inflation. In short, far better than how Trump handed it off. Now it's too much to hope Trump won't fuck things up, he will, it's just a question of how badly.
you must be rich i dont feel any of that my cost of living way up but wages not moving we no longer have extra money.
covid killed this economy lock downs killed this economy
biden and his family raped this country. thank you for keeping it civilized some get out of control
I'm not, but I also can put things into context. Folks were crying for four years Biden was going to drive us into a Recession, didn't happen. Inflation and cost of living rose across the developed world, but we've got a better lid on it than most.
Seems folks forgot that the last administration dumped billions of dollars through stimulus checks, but they wanna pin Biden for inflation? Hard to take anyone who doesn't understand cause and effect seriously.
Perhaps that would have been less necessary had Trump not dismantled the pandemic response teams & assets, downplayed the severity of the threat or abdicated any role in coordinating the response outside throwing money at the problem.
You are correct in that the right will be disappointed IF Donald J Trump the 45th and 47th President of the United States DOESN'T do the things we voted for him to do. That means wrecking your silly anti science notions of trans, shutting down some of the waste, bringing sanity back to the WH.
Y'all really hate trans people for no reason, they represent 1.5% of the population, and yet you 'people' seem hard bent on making their lives as hard as possible, some y'all would even love to be able to kill them on sight.
The opposite. I firmly support people making decisions for themselves. I don't support me having to pay for the medical care needed to affirm their mental disease. I'd pay to treat it but not to affirm it. I'm even more against allowing any children to be disfigured by their parents or guardians.
No ones asked you to pay for their medical care? And they pay for it themselves. Restricting or prohibiting their access to health care isn't the solution, and it's not some mental disease that needs to be corrected outside of just letting them live and identify as they wish.
Like y'all have latched onto this anti-trans agenda because they're one of the last groups y'all feel is 'acceptable' to discriminate and hate against. And sooner or later you'll find some other minority or niche part of the population to hate against. Cause that's what your ideology needs, it
My daughter is gay and she is sick and tired of weirdo wokies trying to ride their coattails in a never ending expansion of weirdness by the T community. Read my lips--I don't care if someone wants to chop their breasts off or their penis or testicles--do it as an adult and do it on your own dime.
When lib politicians are pushing for prisoners to be afforded this care at the taxpayer expense it is asking me to pay for it. Same with the military. It is a mental health situation and if they want to pay for it AFTER reaching the age of majority it is not my issue. As a minor-no way!
I’ll be there to say I told you so…bc I don’t vote for the red cult OR your blue cult—both complicit in funding genocide. Silly democrats think you’re so high and mighty yet you’re so completely clueless #votegreen
We know. We knew that as soon as trump tried to get elected the first time where this would go, no one wanted to listen. We've accepted the pain he will cause long before the rest of you will have.
Maybe next time when we say they're a fascist, you'll listen.
What? Is that aimed at me or are you just talking generally? Because frankly you have no idea who I am.
Instead of congratulating yourselves on calling a spade a spade why don't you Democrats work on your own policies beyond just nice sounding platitudes?
I don't know everything, it wasn't my election. But I do know they didn't make any meaningful declarations about how to deal with quality of life in America (probably because to do so would require some actively "leftist" measures and Dems aren't particularly leftist).
Maybe they had some more strident measures I'm unaware of? That's entirely possible. But if that's the case obviously there was a very big failure of communication if they're little known. That's another failure right there.
You need more than just "we're not as bad as these guys" to inspire.
the lack of self awareness is honestly impressive. like seriously, how long is gonna take y'all to realize that this kinda shit is exactly why nobody wanted to vote for y'all
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Same as there isnt a world in which many left wing voters in america could vote for kamala or biden. Sometimes, things change beyond repair.
We need a meme for the Olympic level mental gymnastics they’re going to be doing when shit hits the fan.
The rest of us: WE TOLD YOU SO
The rest of us: WE TOLD YOU SO
If it was cheaper I'd be happy to admit that it was. However I'm a commie not a liberal or a Conservative so I look at reality
Boom! Medicine is cheaper at $10 AND manufactured in America.
See how that works?
We should not depend on China to manufacture our microchips and medicine.
Our manufacturers should be #1 in the world, not China
#1 for domestic oil and gas.
#1 for planes (Boeing)
#1 for medicine
#1 for infrastructure
#1 for clothes
#1 for clean air and clean water
#1 for education
#1 for vehicle manufacturing
#1 for vitamins, minerals and herbs, etc.
#1 for health and longevity
Between 1790 and 1860, tariffs generated 90 percent of national income.
Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden favored tariffs to encourage domestic manufacturing
President George Washington was the first President to sign the Tariff Act of 1789.
President Joe Biden significantly increased tariffs on Chinese imports including electric vehicle batteries, computer chips, and medical products.
But I'll still say fuck you cause you threw away my rights for money
Same for my cousins who I absolutely will never see them anymore again.
The Biden/Harris Crime Syndicate IS ABOVE THE LAW, and the "GREATEST DOMESTIC TERROR GROUP" in the history of our nation was NEVER patriotic MAGA, it was the DEEP STATE intelligence community that performed a coup in 2020 and installed said syndicate.
Who do you think they will go after first?
Who do you think will pay the heaviest price?
Laughing at MAGA retards won't cut it. You'll have to go to war before any of that.
FAFO
― Thomas Jefferson
If they weren't standing on Your head
There would be no high-five…
What
So I would say that at least we have a life preserver.
Funniest thing I've heard today.
'lol, I told you so',
isn't going stop minorities being scapegoated when these people's lives get worse or bring them closer to a 'better' world view.
They have to really be broken down if there is any chance of salvaging any capacity to see their mistakes.
Sure, not being decision makers, *we* couldn't have done much to better improve people's material conditions, but how are these people connected with?; not just the message, but also it's delivery, and by whom?
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Refusal to understand is not moral high ground. It will not save us, nor will it save anyone else.
I am glad we agree!
Responsibility for what?
I'll still say "told you so" though
Full Article: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/03/biden-trump-pardon-playbook-00192289
They'll blame Dems for any near term issues.
Only the nominal swing/non voting dipshit will turn. Those people, I have less sympathy for than MAGA. At least MAGA will celebrate getting fucked.
And that Trump's policies will also effect those who didn't vote for him?
Show me.
If weirdos voted for me to suffer financially, then I won’t care to be nice to any of them along the way.
Every single Trumpy voter can go fuck themselves.
Screw them.
They should be drowning in feces, not water.
Fire up the base with actually popular leftist policies. Drop the electorally-cursed neoliberalism.
If he does fuck over his supporters ie. take away their Medicare, prices go up etc - they’d never blame him.
https://youtu.be/_qIH5na9AtI?si=cI9BGw_2XPlxv-Gd
You see someone about to die and the best thing you can think is "yeah, die 🗿, you voted". This and all the transphobic jokes confirm to the rest of the world that you are just a far right party.
see how much you all have in common.
covid killed this economy lock downs killed this economy
biden and his family raped this country. thank you for keeping it civilized some get out of control
They will say.
Maybe next time when we say they're a fascist, you'll listen.
Instead of congratulating yourselves on calling a spade a spade why don't you Democrats work on your own policies beyond just nice sounding platitudes?
Pretended they didn't exist.
I bet you don't even know what they are?
Go listen to what they actually said.
You just, very very clearly, said you didn't listen to what they said.
What everyone "knows" bout what kamala's campaign said is... so wildly wrong in general i cant even find a term for it.
You need more than just "we're not as bad as these guys" to inspire.
In the meantime, evil people suffering is funny and righteous.
It is my dying wish you tell theses people “I told you so”
From a safe distance.