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more-than.bsky.social
Centrism / Liberalism is extremism. Absent of intellectual / moral red lines. Capable of anything to take power. UK Unions should disaffiliate. Stop funding Labour's austerity attacks on workers. Stop funding Labour's genocide facilitation. New Party.
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I’d wait until the November budget before you start claiming hypothetical Tory cuts are worse than Labours real, implemented cuts. 5bn is just the beginning. Tax rises for low income / pensions next.
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You’re about to have a very harrowing four years. Going back nearly 10 years now there’s a mountain of evidence for who Starmer / Reeves really are. There should no longer be any doubt that they are to the right of Thatcher & clearly antagonistic towards workers, ill, vulnerable, elderly.
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James OB gets paid to spend his working week paying attention to govt., social / economic challenges and international issues. With the amount of completely deranged opinions he generates there’s no way he’s ’well meaning’. He’s an ideologue. And won’t see or speak beyond his fanatical beliefs.
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We starved the poor and took away dignity of the disabled whilst in the EU. Austerity began in 2008. Before that we targeted ‘single mums pushing prams’. Both Tories and centrist Labour supported it. Starmer’s starving the poor b/c that is the ideology of centrism. Not because he has no choice.
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Genocide.
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Correction. The Democrats & Israel killed 50,000. Not just Netanyahu. If you think Trump would be responsible for 2 mil displacement - something not yet done - then surely you must be consistent and hold the Democrats accountable for something they have already done.
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You willingly facilitated the ongoing genocide of a foreign people to save your own hide.
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And do you know why the democrats DID choose to do a genocide rather than act like a party people could vote for? Because the party is run by people who are the ‘systemic elements’ that prevent democratic representation of real people.
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Specifically, the Democrats MADE voters have to make this choice. They could have very easily not done 12+ months of genocide. What campaign strategy is ‘make your voters accept doing a genocide’?
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You’re positioning ‘Not voting for genocide’ as ‘a moral superiority’. Not doing genocide is a floor, not a ceiling. How many of your neighbours would you kill to avoid a negative impact on your own life?
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If you view genocide as ‘one issue among many’ you’re really fucked.
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You realise for decades most voters in the US and Europe routinely vote for parties they hate but are considered ‘at least not the far right’? That is the opposite of purity. You’re complaining that these voters couldn’t make a moral distinction between two parties both committing a genocide.
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Genocide isn’t a purity test. If it isn’t a legit reason to withhold a vote you’re saying there are no legit reasons. It was easy for Dems to to regain all those votes. Don’t do genocide. ‘Smthng smthng Gaza’ is a dismissive reference to a genocide id only expect to hear from a fascist like Trump
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I don’t think a majority, or even a statistically significant amount, of ‘lefties’ were making this claim. This line of misdirection was sustained by centrists (who certainly aren’t in anyway ‘left’). It’s just a variation of ‘vote for the least bad option’. Which is now inevitably just as bad
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At this point I’d very happily take a centre-left moderate government. Maybe even a centre-right one. But my god. What Starmer is doing isn’t moderate or centrist in the slightest. It’s a one way street of pure ideological violence. But he speaks politely right? So he’s moderate….
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That’s very lazy/generic and I genuinely can’t work out how it’s relevant. As a LABOUR govt. Starmer is imposing hyper-austerity (above and beyond Tories wildest dreams) whilst uncritical supporting Israeli genocide. & you think I’m applying a ‘purity’ test for saying he’s an establishment hack?
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Compounding Tory austerity with … more cuts… isn’t ‘optics’. It has material consequence for the most vulnerable in our society. Starmer doesn’t have to put this all on the poor/disabled. He is CHOOSING to because he is wedded to Thatcherite ideology.
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The europeans referenced ARE the ‘systemic elements’ that prevent democratic election of candidates who genuinely represent voter interests. They are elite interest candidates whose job first and foremost is to prevent progressive political representation/leadership. What is Biden\Bernie 2020?
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It’d be a lot better if the democrats didn’t suck, rather than everyone having to pretend they don’t suck. One way to begin achieving this would be to … Sack Schumer et al.
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The thing democrats have power to control 100% and instantly is … democrat party policy, messaging and leadership. The Dem leadership has been MIA since the election. Since 2020 really, considering they never established a serious post-Biden succession route.
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This is the dominant politics of the last two decades.
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What is the material impact of Cameron/Osborne, Starmer, Macron, Obama etc? A rise in inequality, a centralisation of wealth/political influence into the hands of a few interest groups, continuous overseas wars and massive death counts. But they’re considered ‘moderate’ because they mask politely.
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I’d be comfortable arguing the most polite politicians, with the sharpest suits, are the most violent and corrupt. Politeness is a mask.
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If you’re more offended by the language of people who criticise violent austerity than by the violent austerity itself …..
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We need a political culture that calls corrupt / violent / exploitative politics what it is. Rather than legitimising what Labour are doing to maintain a veneer of politeness. What else do you call Labours hyper-austerity / death sentence imposition on the most vulnerable, other than sick?
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Starmer and Reeves are compounding austerity and targeting the poor / vulnerable because that is their ideology. In or out of the EU. They’d be doing the same. You’re excusing Reeves as having to make ‘tough decisions’ b/c of circumstance. In reality she could tax the rich, not cut the poor.
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That’s be a great list of reasons to still vote for Labour…. … if any of them were true.