Going on @ayman.msnbc.com in 45 minutes or so to talk about this nightmare filing. Please remember that if the Trump administration succeeds in establishing this precedent, nothing will stop it from whisking away innocent American *citizens* to rot in an El Salvador prison forever. - ThreadSky

mjsdc.bsky.social • 74 days ago

Going on @ayman.msnbc.com in 45 minutes or so to talk about this nightmare filing.

Please remember that if the Trump administration succeeds in establishing this precedent, nothing will stop it from whisking away innocent American *citizens* to rot in an El Salvador prison forever.

Reposted from Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

NEW: A second filing today from the DOJ tells Judge Xinis that in their view, since Mr. Abrego is in Bukele's custody, she can't order them to do anything further to bring him back since that's not what "facilitate" means.

They also say the deal with Bukele is classified and/or a state secret.

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titusoates6.bsky.social•74 days ago

The Roberts court man, Jesus.

xnomads.bsky.social•73 days ago

SCOTUS never should have deemed him immune to crimes.

fldsofgld.bsky.social•74 days ago

I listened and you scared the crap out of me!!

akiva631.bsky.social•73 days ago

It's a secret because it's sooooo an impeachable offense and they've got him dead to rights on this one. Fortunately for Trump, though, the GOP has already gone full fascist for him and would never dare step out of line behind the Dear Leader.

canadianredfeather.bsky.social•74 days ago

Take a step back, close your eyes, relax, take a deep breath and imagine, when your open your eyes you’re the one in prison in El Salvador; and you didn’t do anything to deserve this. Would you be at peace with your vote or inaction ? Look yourself in the mirror. Make empathy great again instead.🤔

stegosaurus-rex.bsky.social•73 days ago

Who *here* voted for this? Are you a bot?

rowinpoe.bsky.social•74 days ago

💯 Most don't care until their comfort is impacted. Certainly most Americans.💯

➡️ Without sustainable parity for all life, there can be no civility. ⬅️

💯 #DefundBillionaires 💯
💯 #BoycottBillionaires 💯
💯 #CriminalizeBillionaires 💯
💯 #JailBillionaires 💯

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kellymd.bsky.social•74 days ago

Next ones up for El Salvador will be all those that crossed him in the first Admin or his current opposition.

tim-doin-tim-stuff.bsky.social•74 days ago

They are going to use every trick and fabrication to prevent the release of anyone, especially anyone they mistakenly sent, because then the mask will be off I'm thinking the only path to freedom may be a petition to the international court? Put El Salvador in the spotlight for wrongful detention

jostradasunrise.bsky.social•74 days ago

“The Republic of El Salvador confirms it will house these individuals for one (1) year, pending the United States’ decision on their long term disposition,” wrote El Salvador’s ministry of foreign affairs in a memo obtained by The Associated Press.

Seems like the agreement recognizes US authority.

ricardovenegas.bsky.social•73 days ago

And that it is not a state secret

michelle-cat.bsky.social•74 days ago

The judge shouldn’t buy this hold the attorneys in contempt and lock them up for a few days , maybe give them only a copy of the constitution to read.

williamwillyloman.bsky.social•74 days ago

This is Trump’s civil rights version of his tariffs program!

1luckylady.bsky.social•73 days ago

wtf? Who makes up this shit? Rubio should be speaking with the El Salvador president to get this guy out of prison and sent back to the US and stop all the BS!
Who is in charge of the renting of space at this prison? Stop paying the rent! No money honey no prisoners !

missatlanticcity.bsky.social•74 days ago

Throw them all in Rykers until it’s unclassified! Who classified it and when! 🧌

virgiemckinney.bsky.social•74 days ago

Secret deals with president of country where our fed govt is shipping people in shackles to be confined for life, tortured, and do slave labor with no due process just doesn’t seem like something our found fathers designed to constitution to protect.

drkiddo.bsky.social•73 days ago

Well, I guess if you ignore the whole slavery as an institution which the founding fathers enthusiastically supported. I'd like to think we've evolved beyond the atrocities the founding fathers committed against the human slave they owned.

patrioticcats.bsky.social•74 days ago

Always planned

hawkhawkins1.bsky.social•74 days ago

They’ll be able to classify us all!

lastroth.bsky.social•74 days ago

That's the Eugenic way!

hawkhawkins1.bsky.social•74 days ago

🤬🤬🤬🤬

kaizhen.bsky.social•74 days ago

In the past, when ice came to apprehend, one was wise to surrender peacefully and work things out later. One has to acknowledge that today, if ice is coming to apprehend you, even if you are a us citizen, resisting with deadly force is under consideration, lest you end up a "mistake" in El Salvador

yolowinr.bsky.social•72 days ago

Garcia: This man should be back in America with his wife & kids.

America gets an A for hypocrisy. When a proven innocent man is in prisoned in US it takes heaven & earth to get him out. Prosecutor won't admit wrong even with evidence. Takes years if ever to get him out.

Critically think people.

zacseder.bsky.social•74 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/zacseder.bsky.social/post/3lmqg6ww4vc2l

sempercuriosa.bsky.social•74 days ago

Is this the start of a new slave trade?

noreen900.bsky.social•74 days ago

There should be no liars in this administration. There are SO many lies.

jon639.bsky.social•74 days ago

Trumps already investigating how he can deport americans.
👉He thinks he can 'denaturalize' you and 'POOF' you're gone.

experimental22.bsky.social•74 days ago

Americans live under a full-blown Nazi regime. Full stop.

jaydeedouble.bsky.social•74 days ago

Can we call it what it is yet…?

https://bsky.app/profile/jaydeedouble.bsky.social/post/3llrf5q2zt223

rosieogrady53.bsky.social•74 days ago

It's getting worse!
https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3lmpnsvre3s2g

rosieogrady53.bsky.social•74 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3lmpovedyzc2g

ejn71.bsky.social•73 days ago

If it is a state secret, it must be a flagrantly corrupt deal. Order it opened anyway!!! Moreover, if Trump doesn't pay, El Salvador won't want to keep people. Either loose the man or be boycotted by the rest of the world. That is El Salvador's choice.

mijoda3.bsky.social•73 days ago

Is a mere assertion that contract is classified or a state secret a final bar to a federal judge’s in camera review of it?
Is there some procedure that she can follow to see the contract? PS I don’t see how it would impact ES to return as long as Trump agrees to facilitate by making ES whole.

caracho.bsky.social•74 days ago

If the prisionero is now under Bukele’s care, why is America paying Bukele all that money to house the inmates.

dpkane11705.bsky.social•74 days ago

DOJ is full of it. We’ve negotiated plenty of people’s returns in countries where they were charged with crimes. They want so badly to save face & hope it goes away. It isn’t. All eyes on them.

chrisbflo4.bsky.social•74 days ago

They just got a ballerina out of Russia, they can get Garcia back anytime they want.

dbdant.bsky.social•74 days ago

https://bsky.app/profile/dbdant.bsky.social/post/3lmq3wxg7ak23

genthesen.bsky.social•74 days ago

https://www.mississippifreepress.org/editors-note-focus-on-the-things-you-can-control-and-breathe-through-the-rest/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqEAgAKgcICjCuuJwLMLrCtAMw4KfgAw&utm_content=rundown

debkop727.bsky.social•74 days ago

Exactly, which is why failure is not an option!
We must get as loud as we have ever gotten! Call all of your representatives,White House line,etc! Repeatedly!!!

dvjamieson.bsky.social•74 days ago

"Facilitate" means to make something easier. It ensures nothing. This was intentional by SCOTUS, imo.

non-trumpie.bsky.social•74 days ago

My thoughts exactly. Judges have all given a little 😉 wink here and there long enough to stall but in the end NADA!! This shit is going nowhere! People in power have to ACT!!!! Not just play

democracyxxxx.bsky.social•74 days ago

This is Cody Balmer #MAGA TRUMP @GOP RADICALS doing more batshit antisemitic arsonist violence against the @JoshShapiroPA

When MAGA show you who they are arrest them! @PamBondi_AG @PamBondi 🖕🏼🖕🏼🖕🏼 off to El Salvador!

bfhaven.bsky.social•74 days ago

Thank you Supreme Court for making the decision statement just vague enough to not offend the FF and to make it possible for him to defy you.

fishkin.bsky.social•74 days ago

The only hope here is that this is such a bold and insane position that even this Supreme Court would balk at it.

Sometimes that's the best you can get from this DOJ...

ab9rf.bsky.social•73 days ago

There's a reason why both enforced disappearances and forcible transfers of populations are crimes against humanity

durufle68.bsky.social•74 days ago

Hmmm… I detect a theme emerging… “we can’t do anything” and “it’s a state secret”

amandasadiehistory.bsky.social•74 days ago

I already had a nightmare 2 nights ago about being abducted by ICE agents. This will not help. :(

tdonogh.bsky.social•73 days ago

It appears they already have, multiple times. Who’s going to stop them?

The people must step up, be the answer we need. Peaceful protests and significant pushback must be our daily focus.

Contact legislators, be heard.

one-eyed-jack.bsky.social•74 days ago

They are basically arguing that they are allowed to engage in human trafficking and there is nothing the courts can do to stop it.

chelseanh.bsky.social•74 days ago

What is the legal basis for transferring a deported Venezuelan to the custody of an El Salvadoran prison?

stevehuntsman.bsky.social•74 days ago

I think that all Dem aspirants swearing to invade and depose the leader of any country that imprisons US citizens or LPRs under such an arrangement couldn’t hurt

saridder.bsky.social•74 days ago

The ruling says facilitate the return, not the entry. It's plain English the court meant the government must facilitate his return, not just entry.

outtathea.bsky.social•74 days ago

That’s exactly what “facilitate” means

lawyernerd.bsky.social•74 days ago

Does anyone else ant to just flick each of them in the head

vmg-ylw.bsky.social•74 days ago

• Federal judges hold ultimate authority in constitutional interpretation and can permanently invalidate executive actions.

• The AG wields significant influence over law enforcement priorities and litigation strategies -but- remains subordinate to judicial rulings.

tl;dr: DOJ can go pound sand

krisve.bsky.social•73 days ago

Is it normal for defendants to come up with their own interpretation of the higher court's ruling?

wherearethewise.bsky.social•73 days ago

This needs to be corrected and all folks sent there need to return for due process. Whose representing them?

upwardfalling13.bsky.social•74 days ago

“State secret” bullshit. When are the courts going to stop this dillydallying.

directorgirl.bsky.social•74 days ago

Does the judge have any power at all to enforce any of her rulings? Can she have the lawyers jailed? I know she can't to anything to Trump, who is clearly above the law? If there is no ability to enforce anything, what can be done?

dpkane11705.bsky.social•74 days ago

U.S. Marshals…but they are under DOJ and AG. However, failing Bondi’s likely refusal to arrest her own incompetents, federal courts can utilize other law enforcement agencies to enforce their orders. This could include local police, sheriffs, court security officers.

flyingnl.bsky.social•74 days ago

Did I miss it? I think I missed it l.

marcusdaniel62.bsky.social•74 days ago

Lawyers who write stuff like this should be noted and disbarred. They are the despicable "facilitators" of dictatorship.

pppatticake.bsky.social•74 days ago

They’re literally filing PRETEND

turtle1cat.bsky.social•73 days ago

We are in constitutional crisis everyone. Laws no longer matter. We are ruled by a king now.

faebieee.bsky.social•74 days ago

will this segment be posted on YouTube? don't have cable

barose55.bsky.social•73 days ago

So put it on signalgate

coldrent.bsky.social•74 days ago

The Supreme Court might finally have to suffer a consequence. Up til now, what were they worried about? None of their ruling were going to affect them personally.

santacause.bsky.social•74 days ago

If the administration threatened to withhold payments until he was returned he’d be back within days. They just don’t care about him being returned.

sqidvishus.bsky.social•74 days ago

But is it a state secret though? I mean, we've all seen the footage. Noem did a photo spread there. They had literal PR videos showing human rights violations. They had the press there for it all. How is any of this a state secret?

phoenixdoglover.bsky.social•74 days ago

According to Webster...

To facilitate something is to help bring it about, as in "her rise to power was facilitated by her influential friends." In other words, facilitating something eases the way for it to happen smoothly and effectively.

archaicmermaid.bsky.social•74 days ago

If Judge Xinis were to hold the Defendant in contempt, who would pay that price? (I'm not an attorney, so I really don't know.)

daniel2wolves.bsky.social•74 days ago

I'm just gonna leave this right here....

https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/if-the-marshals-go-rogue-courts-have-other-ways-to-enforce-their-orders/

pppatticake.bsky.social•74 days ago

📌

dcscribe.bsky.social•74 days ago

Why can’t Garcia’s lawyers go back to scotus and seek a writ of mandamus demanding endorsement of its ruling? Skip the lower courts - much like the administration?

boldstatement.bsky.social•74 days ago

📌

lfeatfan.bsky.social•74 days ago

You have to wonder why Trump is fighting so hard to keep that guy in El Salvador. Then you realize that if they bring him back it would set a precedent and they might be able to bring back the others they sent down there.

schmidtbrian.bsky.social•74 days ago

Plaintiffs should be prepared to respond to a claim by DOJ that mootness exception "capable of repetition while evading review" will keep this worst-case option from happening.

the-barely-jew.bsky.social•74 days ago

Or tossing them in the ocean and claiming they can't make the ocean give them back

chrisbflo4.bsky.social•74 days ago

Exactly

kevarosenberg3rd.bsky.social•73 days ago

a triangle has three sides, and they all lead to a square, which is inside a circle, containing a dark space.

wbaker14.bsky.social•74 days ago

The arrogance and outright defiance of the judiciary continues to astound me.

ballardmike.bsky.social•74 days ago

#8647

kb3hae.bsky.social•74 days ago

It's time for trump to go.
He's a menace to our society.

lastroth.bsky.social•74 days ago

And he needs to take his little dog Stephen Miller with him.

chrisbflo4.bsky.social•74 days ago

The fact that he still draws breath is proof Antifa doesn’t exist.

annahchi.bsky.social•73 days ago

I believe 47 is actually Miller’s dog…

kb3hae.bsky.social•74 days ago

Absolutely excellent idea!

mewmew13.bsky.social•74 days ago

Trump has never been held accountable.
When will we see it?
Crimes against Humanity ffs

mewmew13.bsky.social•74 days ago

The Hague....
and prison

lokiswann.bsky.social•74 days ago

when this first started -- there was a story that the US had entered a contract with El Salvador. So if there is a contract then the US should have standing to retrieve inmates -- and they should be held with the same standards that are expected in US prisons. Has anyone seen this contract?

virgiemckinney.bsky.social•74 days ago

In the filing referenced in the original post, the USG claimed the agreement with El Salvador is classified and/or a state secret WHICH IS BONKERS and the judge needs to require it be produced for her review at minimum.

lokiswann.bsky.social•74 days ago

Yeah.... I read that after I posted.. ... and I think they JUST started claiming this today. WTF. If it is so classified, why do they boast about it the day they flew all those people to El Salvador.

jimrissmiller.bsky.social•73 days ago

All I have read seems to indicate that there is “an unsigned agreement” … which given the dancing the US government has been doing is likely unsigned for a reason - perhaps with an unwritten side agreement between the two country’s leaders.

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