I think Maga will always fall in line to whatever trumps whims are on any given day. Since the GOP are cowards they will always cave to what Trump wants so I think they would have done the same at election time. Let's face it too many republicans simply weren't going to vote for a
Woman of love color because deep down theyd rather be gop closet racists or rather voting booth racists only showing their racism behind the voting booth curtains.
You misunderstand his base. Every decision he makes, in their opinion, is part of some grand plan. This attack tonight, will lead to peace. If there’s a war that lasts three years, that too,
will lead to peace. There’s no policy here.
They have been prepared all their lives for Armageddon. Of course Miami will look like Gaza City, but that won't matter because they'll have been "saved".
the conman (Heritage) was simply running out of time bcz of rapidly declining popularity of the conman due to his incompetence. he needs to invoke the Insurrection Act sometime soon. SCOTUS and congress will do nothing. and then a lot of ppl will die, including US soldiers.
A pathological liar and salesman with a fear of being judged will say anything for his own survival and enrichment. His demonstrated insincerity should have been a candidacy killer, but his fake machismo worked with the mostly male low-info crowd.
A. not sure he DID win
B. wouldn’t have made much difference. Trump voters are motivated by a combination of resentment and stupidity so logic is immaterial
By the time the propaganda networks are done spinning it his supporters will be convinced that this is what they voted for. Daddy Trump can do no wrong. Anyone speaking out against it will be called traitors who hate America and Trump will now be a wartime President.
Hair-gel Hegseth starts his press conference full MAGA, kissing the great orange ass making him sound like a savior, ignoring that we wouldn't be here if he had not torn up Obama's excellent Iran nuke agreement because of his racist hate! He makes it sound like no other POTUS could have done this!
This preemptive strike gives Putin more credibility on his attack on Ukraine because he called that a preemptive strike! It may also give justification to China for a preemptive strike on Taiwan!
I'm worried about the incompetence of those running our military on how their going to take us threw this war Trump has started with Iran. Where's his GOLDEN DOME to protect America now?
The truth is that for him lying about Iran ,is just somebody else's problem, and he has a history showing he could care less about causing headaches in others.
The truth is that for him lying about Iran ,is just somebody else's problem, and he has a history showing he could care less about causing headaches in others.
His base loves power. But then again, the elections are being altered. Not in 2020 but in 2024. Why isn't the media reporting on Elon and his scams anymore?
He killed an Iran general on their soil. He increased Obama's drones by over 330% he killed Americans in Africa there are images of a pregnant black woman crying over her dead husband remember her. He increased the deaths in Afghanistan by how much? he wanted war with NK. Yemen. Americans knew.
And Yemen was a Genocide. The media knew all this. But they wanted Biden/Harris to lose so it was important to push him being a dove crap one last time because the evidence before our eyes was to be ignored. And yes all the Trump lovers I know would have voted for him still and would again.
I honestly don't think it would have mattered. His supporters are blood thirsty with intense gun fetishes. They're *already* cheering it and chest thumping about it.
Remember-->Trump stole top secrets, including nuclear secrets, and still missing.
Need foreign reporters to go after him when he is overseas or his thugs in the administration.
I would bet he sold them to Russia, who in turn sold them to Iran. Iran may have teased Netanyahu for this day.
He ran on the campaign "your peepah is right about them Jews and coloreds and if you vote the black lady you will be turned into a womanfolk and go into war in youcrane"
Everybody who carried water for the false premise that Clinton/Harris would be more of a warmonger than fucking Donald Trump has a lot to answer for and probably should never be listened to about anything ever again.
if Kamala had been elected Israel likely would have gone it alone
and USA would have sided with Iran i guess lol
Dems totally would have let Iran have nukes...everyone knows that
The liberals destroyed all of their own credibility when they ran the materiel production half of the Gaza genocide. Those are the people who are gonna save us? This is my opposition party, dawg? They've 'lesser of two evils'ed us into yet another war, I don't want to hear about Nader again
They dont care what he does. They move the goal post to defend him. He can do no wrong. Hes got literal bounty hunters causing chaos in the street kidnapping people and Military marching on civilians on US Soil. And they're still fucking ok with it.
They get to belch in public and call women bitches and do all the other low-brow things Dems appear to disdain with their preppy style and four-syllable words. Trump speaks the language of the lower classes while picking their pockets and making promises he never keeps.
you failed when you inserted the word "MORE". there is no such thing in this convo. dead people are still DEAD. and i wouldn't vote either one for a million dollars.
The election was 100% rigged-that is the only reason he won. He was not and is not respected, or liked.
This is an extremely frightening time in America, and the world having him
in office representing our country🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
😭🥺😱🫢🫣😬
Naw, he still would have won, who are we kidding. The msm would have ignored him or said he didn’t really mean it even as his followers congealed behind it with signs saying “nuke Iran” at his events and he bragged about how easily he could destroy Iran and it wouldn’t have any consequences.
I wouldn't be so sure. Some would interpret that as "I think Iran has a bomb" and others would interpret it as "I think Iran is the bomb". Always important to not take him seriously or literally.
Trump always ran on that Iran could not have nukes.
and nothing was ever ruled out.
Dems meanwhile would have let them.
currently Dems are looking real impotent siding with Iran and saying Trump broke the law
We are at a fucking trifecta
Militarize your own streets
Destabilize the economy
And start a fucking war with the Middle East which has always gone so well
We are so fucking screwed
In a normal world you would be Captain Obvious. But, since he said to their faces, "I don't care anything about you, I just want your vote" , I can see why you didn't say: "I truly guarantee..."
His claims of being anti-war are lies. Those lies are so transparent that there is always this loud dissonance to be heard in the background everytime he says he's anti-war, suggesting the opposite is the truth. His followers are the same. They claim to be anti-war, but they revel in bloodshed.
What key group of people would've stayed home? I'm asking genuinely. From what I see in the many moratoriums it's that people equated Harris to Biden and Biden was unpopular.
If they could write off ripping families apart (again) and deporting millions more than are undocumented why is Iran taken seriously? All the things that were considered bluster have come true from tariffs to deportations. Why would this be any different?
No but here we are… we need to move on to the “what fucking now” part and stop looking back at the election last November or we wont have another election to analyze.
well GWB made it perfectly clear during his 1st campaign that he was going to war with Iraq for trying to kill his daddy and SCOTUS still anointed him to the job!
I still think they would have voted for him. Why would this be there red line? Trump hates the people they hate. If Trump starting caring for poc, immigrants and trans people, maga would not be happy.
If he says it…whether he blames someone of doing something or he denies he won’t do something or says he will do something….he will do it! Why hasn’t anyone figured this out yet?!?
No, he won based on corporate journalists - you included - who continually parrotted maga talking points about biden's decline while sane-washing trump's craziness.
He didn’t win it was rigged, there are entire counties that registered zero votes for Harris out of thousands and thousands of people an unexplainable anomaly and proof it was rigged from the get go
I mean, he campaigned on a lot of awful things and still won. I'm not sure this would have been the last straw. How many voters would really have thought "I'm all in for mass deportations, ruining the lives of trans people, and unprecedented tariffs, but killing Arabs is a bridge too far"?
A solid 48% of this country literally will believe that Trump said anything they wanted him to say in order to create a permission structure to vote for him. There is nothing he could say that would get them not to. He spits in their face and they say “at least it wasn’t a Democrat”
I really don’t think that would have made a difference. The majority of his followers voted for him because he is a racist like them and that’s all they needed to know.
There is no discussion on that either. Of course he did. If you wish to have something to discuss it is when do you impeach, remove, imprison and for how long?
Of course. MAGA idiots believe in nothing but “America rules!” Trump’s their fake-ass John Wayne. Bombing brown people is just mindless entertainment—background noise for the proudly ignorant. When blowback hits, they’ll sob into their flags as their kids come home in pieces.
Bet There won’t be any more need for campaigns now … now that he has the perfect excuse that is world war 3 is imminent and you’ll all have martial law to boot
Trump is big on saying, "Promises made, Promises kept!" He promised to keep us out of World War III. It looks like he didn't do a good job when he authorized bombing Iran. Promises not kept! Iran will retaliate! 😣
The power of propaganda is it replaces critical thought w/emotional loyalty; so facts become irrelevant, & allegiance becomes absolute. Propaganda thrives not on truth, but on repetition. When sufficiently indoctrinated, even the most baseless claims are echoed as gospel.
That's why he didn't say it! Ah? Instead he said "I'll lower your egg prices". It's so dumb it's smart. Or it's so smart it's dumb. Or... Ah what the hell.
He's a convicted criminal spy insurrectionist who should have been in prison now.
Yes, yes he would have. Are you not paying attention? These brainwashed morons twist themselves into pretzels to believe anything he says and does. Please.
5 months in - we're bombing Iran, grabbing people off the street and courthouses, destroying decades worth of scientific research and international aid, and watching as people in Gaza are gunned down while trying to get food. Oh and eggs are still just as expensive.
He campaigned saying Black people were savages who eat dogs and cats, and that Arnold Palmer had a big dick. Can we please stop romanticizing the discernment of the American electorate.
Yes, and two seconds after claiming that Iran needed to be bombed, his cult would have found at least a dozen – often contradictory – reasons why this was another brilliant 5D chess move.
The people that voted for him or didn’t vote for Kamala don’t actually care about ANY POLICIES. They only care about keeping power in the hands of patriarchal white males. That’s it. Everything else is an EXCUSE to cover up their misogyny and racism.
It is a movie about him specifically. I gotta watch it again soon. If I wasn’t doomspamming id probably be watching it now even tho I’ve been on a dune kick
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will lead to peace. There’s no policy here.
They CHOOSE not to.
This unprovoked attack on Iran is on them.
All of it.
The blood is on their hands.
And there will be blood.
And he won despite being a rapist, inciting riot and insurrection, etc. WTF were the people who voted for him going to care about going to war with a country they couldn't find on a map? https://pro.morningconsult.com/articles/can-you-locate-iran-few-voters-can
B. wouldn’t have made much difference. Trump voters are motivated by a combination of resentment and stupidity so logic is immaterial
https://bsky.app/profile/chrislhayes.bsky.social/post/3laeb2qeh4g2l
He found the perfect stooge.
[giant piano falls out of sky and crushes him]
Need foreign reporters to go after him when he is overseas or his thugs in the administration.
I would bet he sold them to Russia, who in turn sold them to Iran. Iran may have teased Netanyahu for this day.
"Déjà vu"
Lots of unknown unknowns here.
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The country is in full embrace of its racism, misogyny and stupidity. Can we stop lying to ourselves about that?
They completely bought the idea that financial support for Ukraine was legitimate warmongering by Democrats.
and USA would have sided with Iran i guess lol
Dems totally would have let Iran have nukes...everyone knows that
Why have light when you can have the real thing?
This is an extremely frightening time in America, and the world having him
in office representing our country🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
😭🥺😱🫢🫣😬
Don't be naive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s5pT3Rris
Trump: "I want them to stop dying."
Then he bombs Iran. Flip-Flopping Lunatic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVO1uzOh2bY
Trump promises NO WWIII if you elect him.
He's well on his way, bombing Iran!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k9HOLECggRY
and nothing was ever ruled out.
Dems meanwhile would have let them.
currently Dems are looking real impotent siding with Iran and saying Trump broke the law
This what America is.
It’s not who Americans are.
Don’t forget the difference.
Until the people unite around the ship they’re sinking in…
This🔻will always be America.
Militarize your own streets
Destabilize the economy
And start a fucking war with the Middle East which has always gone so well
We are so fucking screwed
If Trump had told the truth about anything he would not have won.
How Leonard Leo's 2021 sale of an electronics firm enabled tech giants to subvert the 2024 election.
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the
How’s that working out?
https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/susan-sarandon-trump-win-could-bring-revolution-immediately-877424707847
He is not the Messiah. He's a mushuggah.
Bibi knows this.
IS
WHAT
THEY
WANTED
ALL
ALONG
I really don't know.
He's a convicted criminal spy insurrectionist who should have been in prison now.
Yet he's bombing Iran at will.
Are we looking for sense?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD
https://bsky.app/profile/akbarshahidahmed.huffpost.com/post/3ls62ijun2s2z
godforbid anyone requested a hand recount in any swing state.