we've officially regressed back to premodernity - ThreadSky

aelkus.bsky.social • 11 days ago

we've officially regressed back to premodernity

"It was the first time in Arizona judicial history — and possibly nationwide — that AI has been used to create a deceased victim’s own impact statement"

www.abc15.com/news/region-...

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nicklalone.com•11 days ago

Can we regress to a place we’ve never been?

Or is it more accurate to say we’ve finally achieved a level of truth in our narrative as a species we can dispense with the stupid ass directional bs and see just how terrible we are?

aelkus.bsky.social•11 days ago

i know the latour book on this but its just absolutely insane

nicklalone.com•11 days ago

To me, Vintage and retro call backs are humanity trying to deal with the mistakes we’ve made in deleting our third spaces, letting tech treat society as a user.

Weird shit like this AI stuff is letting us know just how stupid we’ve been/are being.

So going back makes sense. “Maybe this time.”

nicklalone.com•11 days ago

The book or letting ai into court?

djinnandtonic.bsky.social•11 days ago

beseeching The Spirits locked in The Stone to allow me to commune with The Ancestors

justingwallace.bsky.social•11 days ago

I hate me some LLM's but man this is a whole new level of messed up, even for them.

dvisnovsky.bsky.social•11 days ago

I'm having a hard time being level about this, but this seems like worse epistemology than reading entrails or an equivalent. At least you've got the bird right there!

lying.bsky.social•11 days ago

This is some straight-up Salem stuff

forgottonfrontier.bsky.social•11 days ago

What in the chicken fried fuck is this

pocketobservatory.org•11 days ago

I keep telling people that the AI maximalists want to drag us back to an age of superstition. A time when we sacrificed children on altars for favorable winds! But people have a hard time understanding how a movement that uses computers can be fundamentally about retrogression. And yet!

aelkus.bsky.social•11 days ago

why not have a seance or a psychic participate in a legal preceding? trial by strength? witches floating or sinking??

pcollirigger.bsky.social•11 days ago

Does this set up the counter-argument that with AI you can make someone's death less difficult for the survivors?

boleteful.bsky.social•11 days ago

Ghosts are a well-known factor in the eyes of the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stambovsky_v._Ackley?wprov=sfla1

maverickbrett.bsky.social•11 days ago

Don't give Arizona judges ideas they will probably go for it.

aelkus.bsky.social•11 days ago

once you start allowing this shit in a courtroom anything goes

ubermitch.bsky.social•11 days ago

We all enjoyed that scene in Rashomon, OR DID WE

harrydamour.bsky.social•11 days ago

This is Black Mirror level wtf

aelkus.bsky.social•11 days ago

hell bring back cadaver trials of dead people

proofofburden.bsky.social•11 days ago

aelkus.bsky.social•11 days ago

you can make the argument that a lot of legal tools are already pseudoscientific but there is a big difference between that and trying to summon a dead man’s spirit using a computer

isaiahbishop.bsky.social•11 days ago

I just cant with this bullshit

isaiahbishop.bsky.social•11 days ago

Theres going to be a whole ecosystem of impact statement consulting firms for this

euperdendotempo.bsky.social•11 days ago

But it's made by a machine, therefore it's Science and based on Facts. Like the lie detector.

vonbladet.bsky.social•11 days ago

Or "psychological profiling" or "fiber analysis" or "polygraphs"

shanecarrow.bsky.social•11 days ago

Oh my god it’s got the trite little ChatGPT perkiness and everything

ecarney.bsky.social•11 days ago

Too bad the defense didn't think to computer generate their own version of the victim to say, "I kind of had it coming and the afterlife is great; he did me a favor, actually."

zas.bsky.social•11 days ago

The frustrating thing is that a 15th century Catholic inquisitor would be more rigorous than this. Sure they’d be self-contradictory in ways that are hard to understand today but…

zas.bsky.social•11 days ago

Like to put it this way: the inquisition didn’t find Savonarola heretical. That requires a devotion to pedantic truth that this judge clearly lacks.

zas.bsky.social•11 days ago

(To be clear, this user is not defending the fucking inquisition)

kahaykeypants.bsky.social•11 days ago

Your honor, the AI generated voice of Walt Disney couldn’t have been more emphatic. I’m the heir of the Disney corporation and as relayed by Mr.Disney, I should be made the largest shareholder of the Disney corporation with all due speed!

freerangestats.info•11 days ago

I might be ok with courts accepting made-up victim statements from deceased witnesses like this if we treated it as (and also allowed) 'we hired a dialogue writer to write what we think X might have said were she alive and present'.

mistomaxo.bsky.social•11 days ago

they really do think these chatbots are magic huh

grungehamster.bsky.social•11 days ago

Man, imagine if the victim impact statement said something like "I was suffering, thank you for sending me to heaven."

Clearly, we would have disposed of it for being flawed. That it says what is expected makes it true.

brianruh.bsky.social•11 days ago

My first thought was of all those spiritual message / interview books Ryuho Okawa "wrote".

aelkus.bsky.social•11 days ago

or how sadako’s origins in the ringu books/films in terms of being a part of a uri geller scam

twiceborn.bsky.social•11 days ago

Judge: "motion for cybernecromancy granted"

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