I was about to point out that perhaps those heavily armed people around him are more to protect him from assassination attempts, but you're right. If that was the case, they'd be surrounding him, not leaving his whole front exposed.
Wonder why they don’t solve all the unsolved murders in NYC in the same fashion as this one CEO murder. Guess it’s one word - MONEY. PHOTO is a big photo op for the mayor and police department showing their loyalty to the 1%.
the taxpayers. You expect rich people to pay things with their own money? The govna promised the little scared CEOs all the state's resources for their security. 😌
Seems like if they wanted to make Luigi seem cool AF to people under 30 *K/year*, yet dangerous AF to people over 70 *M/year*, they have accomplished their goal.
No need to fix because could be both!
But specifically, there have been polls suggesting a wide gap between how young adults view the shooting vs how seniors do.
What I'm seeing is a majority in all categories are:
1. not pro-murder,
2. don't have empathy for a Healthcare CEO,
3. It's a consequence.
4. Wouldn't have done it themselves.
So approval vs age, gets different weights to those 4 thoughts.
/2 They weigh it differently because younger people are more accepting of quick judgment and anger over injustice leading to action, while older people feel the mortal coil and the conforming to the law over visceral response.
Like useless fucks. I live in Texas. Most police in my "great" state are just useless people who went into law enforcement either because it pays well and the academies are easy to get into, or they are psychos. Both could of been screened out by a psych exam.
its really not, and that show of force isn't for his protection, Kennedy was loved by the country, less so in the south but still loved, and Oswald supposedly wasn't working alone....FREE LUIGI
A 17-year-old boy, Yeremi Colino, was stabbed in the chest and taken to NewYork-Presbyterian Lower Manhattan Hospital, where he died on December 5th. One day after and blocks away from the CEO shooting.
No manhunt.
No pics.
Another victim described attackers:
Yes, "money talks and bullshit walks" almost as old as this age of unchecked greed is. It would seem we came to believe our own PR and became complacent thinking it could never happen here, no matter how hard they tried, this is America, land of the free, home of the brave, and smartest of all.
Then you don't understand what the phrase means. Yes, it did for Yeremi. He was a wannabe American, what the rich would call 'bullshit that walks,' not 'money that talks.' The scariest time I ever heard that phrase was from a man in a uniform paid to serve and protect us, as a warning.
All this theater will only stoke the flames of the class war. Everything they do will work against them in the end. It has begun and it can't be stopped.
Isn't he a representative of the wealthy class? He is functionally a millionaire and his family is worth tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars.
Sure, his family is wealthy, and he chose to throw all of that away. Doesn't that say something about how murderous the health care system is? What point are you trying to make with the fact that his family is wealthy?
You described this as class warfare, he's of the wealthy class. He has never had any difficulty paying for medical treatments or had to confront inequities in the health care system. His family, as example, has a wing in a hospital. This seems like intra class not inter class conflict.
Where is the evidence that he did this as an act of interclass warfare? Because if you look at not only just his manifesto, but all of his musings online, he goes on and on about the greed of Healthcare companies.
I'm just not convinced that's his purpose. I think he's angry because of his own chronic pain and back problems, and the assistance to people in other classes is largely incidental. I think we should know more before assuming his motives are to benefit anyone but himself.
Many, yes. I think the history of class conflict in the U.S., in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, the rise of unions, was almost entirely bottom up wasn't it though? Miners, factory workers, etc...
It's pretty obvious why this is happening, it's because a ton of people are praising him for what he did so yes they're probably worried that there will be more vigilantism and people trying to free him etc.
You don’t think people are worried about vigilantism with people murdering immigrants (or in this case, just a kid speaking Spanish in a city with literally hundreds of languages spoken) when the upcoming president (who’s the son of an immigrant) has dehumanized immigrants as criminals?
Militias are literally volunteering to “round them up” as soon as trump is inaugurated. They’re literally saying it will be a “blood bath.” They value rich CEOs and not the working people who actually built/maintain this country.
When I was a kid, we had to do air raid drills had hide under our desks for protection from atomic bombs. It was all kinda scary but weird because none of us had ever seen a real atomic blast.
Kids today have already seen too much.
And nobody can tell them it's "just a drill."
Is that picture before or after they treated him to burger king? Or am I mistaken and it was burger, fries, and soda before, and burger king ice cream after?
Looooooooooooooool! It was as if it was a guy who had the codes to nukes hidden in the country the way they escorted him there. Woooooowey. Waste of goverment money. Even hannibal lector or bundy didnt get this kinda escort. Forth knox up in that joint. I hope he is treated right by the inmates.
Really? That is a bit sickening and disgusting. What if he hit a child and missed his target? Still yur hero? What if he hit a waiter making $3 an hour plus tips? Still yur hero? These things can happen when you start popping off a gun in a public place.
What is more making him a hero emboldens other people. And while he may have hit the target, what about the next one who tries this? Or the one after that or after that? You think no one will ever miss and hit someone innocent? If you do I have a bridge to sell you to Terabithia, $50.
I want other people emboldened. Nothing changes without this. Feel free to support corporations, but they destroy all our lives. Sometimes you have to let go of the rules. This is that time.
Horse shit. You have not even tried to change anything through peaceful mechanisms. And we HAVE had change. Once insurance could deny you for pre existing conditions. the aca was the beginning of change. So what you say about change is demonstrably horse shit.
He hit the guy he meant to hit. If you’re so worried, maybe you should work on getting the bazillions of guns in this country off the streets because they are way more of a threat to children and other humans. I’m so much more disgusted with corporate America than with any corporate vigilante.
You can't demand change from a society you act violently and outside of. That just isn't a functional method. Neither is violence. When people get violent all anyone hears is violence. The reason behind it get's lost and ceases to matter. I am sick of it too. But this isn't the way to change stuff.
Well I don’t see anything else that’s worked. I think assassination absolutely changed this country in the 1960s. Maybe now it’s time for our side. It’s not what I want, but I believe it’s the only way anything changes. Those in power need to be afraid.
Ahhh time for the false equivalency. Because someone shouldn't be punished by public murder I am opposed to dealing with the problem. Start a petition, talk to the media about your healthcare experience, start voting for candidates who will put them in jail for what they do.
I have 0 problem with punishing CEOs. But this is a civilized society. We choose methods of disempowerment by pushing for a public option for healthcare, through a petition making denials a crime that CEOs go to prison for, by talking to the media about the healthcare problem and raising awareness.
The courts are bought and our democracy is failed. Generations may die before the harm can be reversed, and the planet probably will be ready to purge most of us by then.
If there is no peaceful pathway, is it noble to stand by as people are killed for profit?
Clown murderer....... Compared to a drug dealer, company man, who lords over people's lives and deaths based on profits.... IDK where the line is anymore.
That company's decisions, based on profits, had basically allowed lots of people to die (aka murder.)
Yes. Sickening isn't it? Makes me angry too. Start a petition, make denials from healthcare a murder 1 offense punishable by 20 years in prison. I will sign it at least twice. But supporting someone who endangered everyone in his vicinity when he whipped out a gun in a public place is a non starter.
Nothing builds folk hero status like totally unnecessary and cringe worthy shows of force which make the powerful appear faceless and the defiant an individual...
Can you imagine if every murder was treated as a terrorist attack? They are going above and beyond to show us that some lives most definitely matter more than most others.
Exactly. It is kinda infuriating and pretty out of touch of Hochul to even suggest it. The message the killer was sending is getting lost in the background noise. I am not suggesting that what the killer did was right. However, if health insurance companies weren't evil, they would not be targeted.
The reason why he's being treated different is because so many people are defending and praising what he did.
So yes, they're probably worried about vigilantism and people trying to free him more than usual.
Other murderers don't get thousands of people defending what they did.
This is unhinged, why is it so hard for Americans to be normal.
The reason why he's getting this many guards is for his own protection and in fear of more vigilantism and people trying to free him due to how many people praise him online.
That's not something that happens with other murderers, like no shit sherlock when you turn something into a media spectacle and praise what he did the cops will divert more resources to up security.
It's the most obvious no-brainer thing in the world.
Maybe, but his actions have made this a Cause célèbre and law enforcement doesn't want anything negative to happen during these transitions -- which are prime time for attacks and rescue attempts.
Lol. I don't have a clue. I suppose that the chatter was more about springing him than offing him. He's rapidly achieved Rittenhouse levels of anti-hero.
It will be a deep erotic drama peice heavy on Luigi's sexuality that ends 3 minutes before the murder. Ryan Murphy will find a way to shoe horn a leather fisting orgy into it.
Is anyone else thinking that if this were someone that was clearly guilty but their crime served the agenda of 45, they would be pre-pardoned by now, as if that's a thing?
Pretty safe bet, yeah. From wikipedia:
"...House Resolution 448 in the United States House of Representatives to "recognize and honor Daniel Penny ... for his heroism and courage in apprehending a threat to public safety".
You're 100% right. They're doing it for the photo. If they actually wanted to protect him they'd have people in front of him. This is posed and staged for propaganda.
How much taxpayer money was spent on this? Yikes, helicopters, every branch if law enforcement, and probably tons of overtime to make him into even more of a folk hero.
The testimony in the trial, from the police, was that they ordered him back & when he continued towards their car, they pointed guns at him & pepper sprayed him.
They then drove down the street towards the sound of the active gunfire coming from behind Rittenhouse, like they're trained to do.
Inmates must be fed, including those placed under arrest. That's a federal law. Police departments do not have kitchens to feed prisoners and rely on outside vendors. I know because I worked as a booking officer. I'm tired of this story being repeated as "special treatment. " .
I read "other white" and my head finished it with "meat" because advertising works. I hope the advertising like this for Luigi helps cement his hero status indefinitely. Every day, he just looks so much more awesome than the day before. It's incredible.
You're thinking of Dylan Roof, and Dylan was given a hamburger because the cops had no other choice. It was the cheapest and most convenient way to feed him.
And since when did a Whopper become such a prized meal?
Made money for himself doing after dinner speeches and public appearances for a year, and then started a GoFundMe for his family when their house was at risk of being repossessed since he'd refused to share anything with them.
Luigi's getting the full Bane treatment complete with special forces looking guys and the mayoral escort. They have no idea what kind of legend this is creating.
dont know why it seems so weird to me, just maybe carceral shit together with color-coordination feels like the movie brazil is clawing its way into reality...
Point is, this "show of force" actually makes him look extremely important, powerful, even super-villainesque.
They could have just blackholed him into the quiet comings/goings of the legal system but this is a photo-op that makes him look like an influential badass. This isn't deterring ANYONE.
This is not helping. "In the United States, the average number of people shot and killed each day is 117, out of a total of 327 people shot", according to Google. This gets special media attention because the victim was a crroked CEO. Society is sick.
Meanwhile, Dear Leader roams golf courses the world over (except countries that don't allow felons) with the Secret Service whose incompetence, essentially, almost killed the freak.
Don’t the specifics of the entrances into this courthouse, but it seems like they chose a fairly long public walk. Guessing there were less exposed choices.
Was going to yell out "law enforcement show-boating," but then realized the threat a huge number of Americans present to those who have and continue to destroy American lives out of depraved greed.
I dunno, they are making this kid seem pretty badass. Maybe they secretly want more people to take out healthcare CEOs...
(Not an endorsement of killing the people that profit off of letting other people die slowly due to lack of treatment. 100% in not an endorsement. Shouldn't need to say that).
Honestly? A sense of unity across artificially opposed demographics. The amplification of a larger discussion about the state of healthcare. Most of us want the same core things, and the public reaction to this event brought that to light. It's not ideal, but it's not nothing.
If you haven't been paying attention a lot of focus has turned on to the insurance companies in the last week. There was even a major decision at one company reversed. I think because they realized people can buy guns more easily than they can pay for their medical bills.
People are actively recognizing the fact that those in ultra wealthy, powerful positions can literally commission laws that ensure minimal repercussions if they commit mass murder for profit, where if anyone fights back they parade you around like a supervillain.
On that I’m sure you’re right. When they start getting gunned down watch the laws change … how many kids have died in school shootings and still no gun reform.
Does anyone remember this level of outrage & when 17 yr old Rittenhouse killed 2 ppl in the street….No he was coddled like he was a trump ffs
But kill one their millionaires?
This cntry is efd up on too many levels to even count—
actually this is an amazing comparison cause Magneto is not seen as a villain by pretty much anyone with compassion and understanding of his circumstances, while the rest will desperately try to convince you that he IS a villain
They should have. His death would have turned him into a martyr. Imagine if some random gunman ran up and shot him right there. He'd been gunned down and no information about why he did it. Oh shit, every CEO in the country would have barricaded in a bunker for a year.
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We can meme all we want. But this is a serious event.
... they're just not making the KIND of example they intended...
So, in a way, they didn’t solve this the way they don’t solve anything else.
There fixed that for you.
But specifically, there have been polls suggesting a wide gap between how young adults view the shooting vs how seniors do.
What I'm seeing is a majority in all categories are:
1. not pro-murder,
2. don't have empathy for a Healthcare CEO,
3. It's a consequence.
4. Wouldn't have done it themselves.
So approval vs age, gets different weights to those 4 thoughts.
They each "escorted" the dangerous criminal.
A 17-year-old boy, Yeremi Colino, was stabbed in the chest and taken to NewYork-Presbyterian Lower Manhattan Hospital, where he died on December 5th. One day after and blocks away from the CEO shooting.
No manhunt.
No pics.
Another victim described attackers:
Where is the justice for all the non wealthy victims of crime?
In some cases, it is long sought and found, but in most, there are no answers or justice.
There are no excuses for crime and murder under any circumstances.
We rely on our court systems, but they seem to be failing.
There is a good balance of two.
Their main focus should be the job in front of them and k owing they just have to do what they must to get as much done for the people as possible.
#freeluigi
Bet Trump is jealous, his protection detail isn’t that big.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/18/opinion/health-insurance-united-ceo-shooting.html
More fuel for the fire though.
Gotta show the nyc CEO’s they’re in control. 😂
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"This is what happens if you touch one of ours."
Thing is it only pisses us off more.
In reality, it's just making him seem more like a badass folk hero.
now I gotta deal with AI and whatever the nuclear fallout from this is
Kids today have already seen too much.
And nobody can tell them it's "just a drill."
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/gWFGXgAx_XdIMyd025kNtw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTEzMTc-/https://s.yimg.com/os/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/56fc02ce5c34c91b790f6a706700b76b.jpg
This has always been the rule. They're just not even ashamed to show it now.
Are teenagers in puberty going to swoop in and free him?
"When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich."
- Pierre Gaspard Chaumette,
President of the Paris Commune,
October 14th, 1793
https://bsky.app/profile/roberttoldyouso.bsky.social/post/3ld2uak2esc2g
I don't think so
That's how Eric Adams was elected.
How do you not know that?
If there is no peaceful pathway, is it noble to stand by as people are killed for profit?
That company's decisions, based on profits, had basically allowed lots of people to die (aka murder.)
Unfortunately, it is also equally terrifying.
When you could shock Americans by simply crashing a stage at an awards show and hijack someone else’s acceptance speech.
I feel we will break new ground with “laws don’t apply if you’re president”.
So yes, they're probably worried about vigilantism and people trying to free him more than usual.
Other murderers don't get thousands of people defending what they did.
The moral judgment is about whether the killer killing the other killer, was a good thing or not
Thats why murican slavecatchers, i mean police, dont care when black people get lynched, you get pardoned for that.
But kill a serial social killer healthcare CEO? TERRORISM!
The reason why he's getting this many guards is for his own protection and in fear of more vigilantism and people trying to free him due to how many people praise him online.
It's the most obvious no-brainer thing in the world.
And Im not an American.
They are just parading him arpund as an example (“dont you dare touch a CEO!”), but they are just making him look like a martyr.
This self-proclaimed racist murdered a person specifically to incite terror, was not charged with terrorism, and was pardoned.
(from Ireland)
You call this, 'Truth, Justice and the American way'?
The guys saved countless lives. Deserves a medal not a jail term.
#freeluigi
http://shadowse.com/luigi-mangione
They did less on Jan 6th
It’s ridiculous
Palestinians don't matter but white CEOs do.
Truth, Justice and the American way.
You watch!
"...House Resolution 448 in the United States House of Representatives to "recognize and honor Daniel Penny ... for his heroism and courage in apprehending a threat to public safety".
Penny joined US president-elect Donald Trump and vice president-elect JD Vance at the Army v Navy American football game as a "guest of honor".
He's villainized by the right because he donated $23M to try to defeat George W Bush.
But he's given $32B to OSF. Seems if the CEO had been more charitable instead of greedy, he wouldn't have been a target.
Like "1up!" Get it?!?!?!?
Because if a prisoner is thought to be at risk they would also be wearing Kevlar and a helmet.
Either way, the SDE of military-style police is HUGE here.
WHY ARE THEY PARADING HIM AROUND FOR PHOTOSHOOTS?
They aren't white by white standards of the 1930s, when the white magats want to turn the clock back to.
Rittenhouse, Perry, and Roof are of northern European origin. They are Germanic/Anglo-saxon names. Those are white people names.
🤣
Kyle Rittenhouse is this *other* white kid who, when he was underage, left his house to go across state lines to shoot people.
The cops were so lovely, he waved at them as he was walking by with his gun to leave and they bought him dinner.
They then drove down the street towards the sound of the active gunfire coming from behind Rittenhouse, like they're trained to do.
Black lives, and the lives of their allies, don’t matter to a lot of police.
I can't honestly remember, but it doesn't matter now does it.
He shot three people , two guys died and one survived.
The question she asked is if that’s who we were talking about, and it wasn’t.
Let's not forget that many in the media lied about this for a year, when it was known a year before his trial that both claims were false.
And since when did a Whopper become such a prized meal?
https://bsky.app/profile/killercop1984.bsky.social/post/3lcxurwz5ys2q
They could have just blackholed him into the quiet comings/goings of the legal system but this is a photo-op that makes him look like an influential badass. This isn't deterring ANYONE.
https://bsky.app/profile/cyberized.bsky.social/post/3ldow7pqakc2v
It's this exactly. Does Luigi or Superman look scared? Fuck no. The power isn't with the guys with guns in either picture.
🤣
Violence is the new norm
😎🌵🪴
http://shadowse.com/luigi-mangione
(Not an endorsement of killing the people that profit off of letting other people die slowly due to lack of treatment. 100% in not an endorsement. Shouldn't need to say that).
That's a pretty big improvement.
Most normal people endorse this. He he is more conservative than the entire GOP voting base.
This nation was founded upon firing upon rich men who wanted to lord over of us for their benefit at our detriment economically
you old mfs let them run rampant for too long now we have to fix it one way or another
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014
But kill one their millionaires?
This cntry is efd up on too many levels to even count—
#KillMoreCEOs
Isn't that how all the action movies plots go?