I'm on a newer drug that's in trial. It's way more effective than Ozempic. I exercised 5x a week and never lost weight even with calorie counting. 14 months on the drug I'm down 31% of my body weight and my cholesterol is literally better than it's ever been in my adult life. These drugs are amazing
Ozempic is a magic elixir. For people with metabolic disease it can literally save their life. But obesity is for many, a lifestyle disease, not necessarily the fault of the individual, but a lifestyle disease all the same. Claiming it's just diet and exercise misses a lot of the point.
Here's an article from this year explaining some of the trouble with lifestyle https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(24)00229-8. It's not that simple, you have to also account for the availability of healthy food, as you see in the second picture of places with food insecurity. There's a lot.
the surest evidence that TCW doesn’t actually work is that he thinks a 5 mile walk a day and an hour of strength training a day is something most people can do if they make the time.
This was my immediate response. I love working out, I miss it so much, and I have a full-time job and two kids. Getting to the gym is very difficult right now.
Not everyone has generational wealth and limited work/family obligations so that a two hour health detour per day is doable. Not to mention metabolic and other intrinsic health differentials that may affect weight gain and retention. Ffs.
Hey if he's suggesting we strive to create a society where everyone can do this I'm all for it. I don't think that's what he has in mind though. Easier to just blame people for their moral failings when the structure of our society makes it impossible for most.
Seriously. These people need to speak to a real human being living a normal life. I just cannot get over how out-of-touch these people and the president-elect are, and how blazingly ignorant you have to be to believe otherwise. It hurts my brain.
like, i have an easy job all things considered and work from home and it is still a real effort to get in a daily workout and regular steps when i also have to raise two children and manage a household.
Zepbound has changed my life. I cannot explain how surreal it is. Not only for health, but - for me - it's been better than any SSRI I ever took for my mental health. To not think about food or cravings is freeing.
“Just buy and eat healthy food at the grocery” - leaving out the hidden prereqs of having reliable transportation to a food store, the equipment needed to cook it, then TIME to prep, cook, and CLEAN afterwards? How much time do health and weight scolds think people have in a day?
My mother was obese. I watched her try and fail at all sorts of fanciful diets—they ultimately defeated her and she was dead by 57. When he gets a headache does he just work through the pain? Does he take antibiotics? Where's his line for not just toughing it out without a pharmaceutical?
I was driving with someone in the Berkeley Hills who noticed that everyone out jogging was fit and said that it's because the residents likely exercise more.
Yes, because they have the $ and free time to exercise. They have access to healthy food, good medical care, and gym memberships.
It’s super easy to get 20,000 steps a day without even thinking about it when cities are designed for cars. Anyone who’s traveled to Japan or Europe or Disney World can tell you.
It’s bizarre for a culture pundit to have an objection to medicine. Is the objection cultural? What a weird thing, if so. It can’t be scientific, because Chatterton has no qualifications whatsoever to make that objection.
The idea also ignores the existence of people who literally, physically can’t do one or both of those things, to say nothing of the fact that being fat doesn’t mean being unhealthy.
It is inherently unhealthy to be the weight that I am, and I'm working my ass off to literally work my ass off. I don't want to develop those complications in the future, but the fact that right now I'd technically pass a physical means jack squat.
I don't know that I can agree. As a certified Big Fat Cow™, I can tell you that I'm not healthy. Just because I don't have diseases/ailments one thinks of when they think of fat people like diabetes, HBP, or joint issues doesn't mean as I sit here right now, I'm the picture of health. I'm not.
I’m kinda lucky because my kids’ activity gets me to the climbing gym several times a week. I imagine my lifestyle would be different if their main activity was, I don’t know, ice hockey.
same, I also got knee/back wear and tear from my army days and uneven pavement is just no longer than .5 miles. I elliptical and yoga but I've also had to significantly alter my workout as I've aged.
Not to mention he’s apparently blissfully unaware how expensive protein and fresh produce is. Especially if you had to quit your full time job in order to get all those steps in.
True! And by the time the kids are grown and you retire and have time for all that, some body part or other will be broken or at least fussy. The shoulder won't let you do bench presses, the knees rebel against squats, the bunions can't do 10,000 steps a day....
Oh, you mean the guy who said "lotta insightful feedback but I'm still compelled by my original assertion"? The guy who is totally benefitting from hearing a diversity of opinion?
This 100 percent. I started exercising again at 41. My wife and I don’t have any children. It’s taken me until now (47) to build my body up where my body can handle doing 60 minutes of cardio 5 days a week and strength training 3 days. I couldn’t imagine doing it with kids.
He's not a "skeptic" because he refuses to accept answers he doesn't like. He's just a stubborn a-hole. Just like Rogan and the rest of the "Just asking questions" industry.
Well, if they take away my social security, pension and tank my 401k & my investments I’ll be reduced at nearly 70 to working as an order picker at Amazon.
That’s tragic but, at least I’ll get my 10k steps a day.
Not to mention, obesity is in and of itself a disabling medical condition and is often caused by other medical conditions. Getting in the habit of regular exercise is easier when you're already healthy and fit. It's a lot harder when your joints are trashed and your heart is weak
That's the thing that bugs the heck out of me. As a 60-something woman with a normal BMI, who walks at least 6k a day, does really minimal yoga in the morning, and occasionally manages to remember my NY Times 7 minute interval workout, I'm going to say that scaling up from that to ...
... consistently walking 10k a day and doing 3-4 hours of resistance training a week, while working a fulltime job that's hybrid, so a 45 minute commute each day 3 days a week, and also being caregiver to a husband whose health is shakier than mine, and sometimes having to login to work ...
... at 10pm for deployments that may take anywhere from 15 minutes to several hours, is harder than TCW thinks. And also that some of my husband's health issues are genetic (his father died of a heart attack in his 50s) - not everyone gets to be as healthy as me when they're in their 60s....
... At this age, people with diabetes (like my husband) who could benefit from Ozempic aren't a niche group. And all of us can benefit from our COVID boosters, which RFK Jr also opposes. And I am happy to be young enough to have missed measles, thanks to the MMR vaccine, which RFK also opposes /end
Five miles would take me two hours to walk. I know this because 2.4 miles is my approximate walking distance to and from my work.
So he seems to think that everyone should be spending three hours a day exercising. Typical collegiate athletes train about 10-15 hours a week, for comparison.
That was my regimine (and counting calories which I still do) but the minute I have to work 12 hours a day at my desk, it goes down to two workouts a week and 7,000 steps... maybe 12k on a good day. That dude is on some real ableist bullshit.
Yeah it’s hyperbole but it’s ridiculously expensive especially in bigger cities. The monthly grocery expense split between upper middle class and median American is insane.
I am surely overly pedantic about this and still mad about inflation discourse but I shop at Whole Foods on occasion (I live 30 minutes so if I'm up in Portland I'll stop by) and like anything else it's just not that expensive if you go there with a flexible shopping list.
For a lot of people the only way they can reach those recommendations is if they’re accomplished during their workday, i.e. their work involves physical activity.its just not feasible for many folks
Where you live matters quite a bit as well. People who live in cities walk much more on average than suburban or rural folks where things tend to be so spread out that you have to drive.
MTE. I'm sure it's not what that guy's thinking of, but working by lifting and carrying stuff can be "healthy" on paper. It's often unsafe (and therefore not actually healthy), though. And then you'll probably be too tired to prep "real" food.
I can reliably walk my dog twice a day (total, 2.5 miles) and work out about an hour a day ONLY because I'm self-employed + work from home AND because my three children are all out of the house. Otherwise, forget it. And that's not even taking into account people working multiple jobs etc etc etc
I remember reading an article years ago that said something along the lines of "to get your 10,000 steps in, walk for 20 minutes at lunch." Just glaringly obvious that they hadn't done even the cursory work to figure out that that only gets you about 2,000 steps.
It's of a piece with the "raise the retirement age b/c people are living longer"drones. People who do physical work wear out quicker than pundits. Try a life of actual work and get back to me.
I’ve seen these PED allegations against RFK Jr. and frankly didn’t have the time/motivation to investigate further. How do we know this is the case (not that I’d be surprised)?
“I’m on an anti-aging protocol from my doctor that includes testosterone replacement,” Kennedy said. “I don’t take any anabolic steroids or anything like that and the TRT I use is bioidentical to what my body produces.”
You get your doctor to write a script for TRT to bring your test up to normal levels, then use your dealer to bring it up to hyper physiological levels, but because you have the script, that covers having the drug if caught.
Sidenote RFK Jr seems like the most likely inheritor of the Trump Cult when Trump dies because he's also a stupid old man with unearned fame that makes idiots identify with him and chattering class writers write fanfic about him becoming a saner version of himself.
That's the worm bargain -- you live with a spooky voice in your brain telling you that you must feed it strange raw meat, but you are rewarded with a herculean physique
True that! plus he can barely talk; he growl/grumbles and the side of his face looks like its melting or someshit. - If that exact person had a different last name & no money and approached you- >people (including cheryl hines) would run for the hills.
RFK Jr seems halfway plausible as long as you never see or hear him. Beyond that? His skin color is Electrocuted Corpse®, his eyes don't line up, and his larynx is a haunted house.
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Cagri ain't gonna do that to your triglycerides 😉
readily and affordably available to the average person.
All it took was a divorce to get me the requisite free time.
Yes, because they have the $ and free time to exercise. They have access to healthy food, good medical care, and gym memberships.
They're not exposed to regular violence, police brutality, and racialized stress like my students and likely have lower cortisol levels.
Everything else pales in comparison
That’s tragic but, at least I’ll get my 10k steps a day.
So he seems to think that everyone should be spending three hours a day exercising. Typical collegiate athletes train about 10-15 hours a week, for comparison.
You should get enough protein, but that's not the same as "high protein."
Just that you'd technically get that kind of "workout" being exploited for your labor.
https://honehealth.com/edge/rfk-jr-trt-steroids/
Bobby is bragging that he got a doctor to prescribe him the drugs he wants. Because Bobby is an asshole.
Injecting exogenous materials to avoid the spread of measles and save entire generations of humans? Bad!
....an RFK JR Story