Can’t even bring myself to look at that place. I’m all for the bill, having witnessed the agony my mother recently went through in the last few months of her life (though, on a more conceptual level, it’s something I’ve long supported). And my mum was lucky to have had fantastic palliative care.
Yes, please, some of the posts are awful over there. Parliament debated this with compassion and thought. So should we. Personally, I am in favour, provided there is good end of life care for all and support whatever choice people make.
I understand the various concernsBUTit gives me great personal comfort to know Canada's MAID program is available.I had no say how I came into this world; perhaps I'll have some control over how and when I leave.As with other medical matters,I don't want others inserting themselves into MY decision.
Well said. I agree.
It's like the other "big" issues of social policy: contraception, abortion, gay marriage, cannabis - if you don't want it don't do it, but allow other people to choose.
I second these comments. I’m a carer. Good palliative care is an essential service. But I’d like a say as to when I’ve had enough. When there is no more to be done, no hope and only guaranteed pain and suffering for me and my loved ones, I’d prefer to leave on my own terms given the chance
Apart from a few exceptions, the debate was amazingly well conducted. It is perhaps shaming how soon the mainly excellent behaviour today will be junked, to the usual clown car show in The Commons
I don’t know what happened on X but I can never shake off the image of my grandmother dying from cancer in agony and seeing my dad in tears after seeing her hoping her pain would end soon.
The implementation of it deserves a debate but it’s such a selfish vote choosing “no” at this stage.
Don't go on there anymore. It's too toxic. I'm all for healthy, respectful debate and hearing valid, well reasoned different opinions. Heaven forbid you disagree with anyone on the hell site!
Unfortunately I don’t know enough, have ignored the news recently because of “that election”.
I was pro, now 50/50, saw a post saying that a v high proportion of the disabled community didn’t get enough help/assistance during COVID & so died w/out being properly heard. Are they properly covered?
I came to the conclusion, having listened to much of the debate, that I would be rubbish on a jury. I changed my mind with literally every speaker. Parliament definitely put on its best frock today.
#kimleadbetter
But I ended up supporting AD. Kinder
I read it when I was at school in 1970 in the UK. We got to critique it as a group, it's a terrible piece of writing!
I think it's important to know the enemy. Good people should not be so susceptible to propaganda, so consider Media Studies.
Yes. Guess Jenrick stirred his x pot. History won't treat him kindly. I'm pleased the bill went forward. My adult daughter recalls the debate 10 years ago. Like Brexit we need to talk about it. Today.
For what it is worth. My father suffered an horrific death (no details) whilst receiving good palliative care in a very good hospice. Both my mother and myself suffered PTSD as a result.
He would have chosen AD if he could as he talked about it. But I get the concerns of others.
Sorry to be blunt, if you have not experienced it, but it can be calm or horrific depending on the situation.
People should have choices about how we end.
We had to watch my dad suffer the same, with the same result. 26 years later, I still feel the pain of him not having the choice of an action that he spoke about from his diagnosis and terminal prediction
I am so sorry your father and your family had to suffer that. No one should. I still have flashbacks 14 years on. As I am sure you do. I am so pleased this legislation will help so many people suffering at some point in the future.
Given it's got to have it's 3rd reading and all that goes before that I don't see why people are getting so worked up. Still time for them to contact their MP and express to them how they feel. In fact I believe todays vote was only as big as it was because it buys people more time to think on it.
Understand that people in entertainment/ media who require the interactions still need X, but for the average Joe the best decision is to give it a very wide berth.
Im torn, I do think it's ones own decision for EoL care, but still worry for the vulnerable, as will the stringent laws at the start be watered down over time?
I believe people should have the choice but I also believe end of life care in the UK needs to be better. I also worry that the disabled and sick, who are already targeted by governments who tell the country that they are a drain on society, will encourage them (indirectly) to use it eventually.
Nobody who has cared for a loved one and seen the deterioration of them at the end of their life would reject the assisted dying bill. The loss of dignity for that person and the lasting image you have of them is heartbreaking. #AssistedDying must be legalised.
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It's like the other "big" issues of social policy: contraception, abortion, gay marriage, cannabis - if you don't want it don't do it, but allow other people to choose.
The implementation of it deserves a debate but it’s such a selfish vote choosing “no” at this stage.
For what it's worth, I would vote yes if asked.
The whipping system is stoopid!
I was pro, now 50/50, saw a post saying that a v high proportion of the disabled community didn’t get enough help/assistance during COVID & so died w/out being properly heard. Are they properly covered?
Personally, I'm against state murder but Laurence is building a compelling case.
We give power to people we think deserve it at the end of the day 🤷🏻♀️
#kimleadbetter
But I ended up supporting AD. Kinder
I think it's important to know the enemy. Good people should not be so susceptible to propaganda, so consider Media Studies.
He would have chosen AD if he could as he talked about it. But I get the concerns of others.
People should have choices about how we end.
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