The official turnout from yesterday's protest marches (April 5, 2025 Hands Off) is 5.2 million, keep sharing that number. Most media is saying thousands. Mark you calendars for April 19 for the next one. The snowball has started to roll. The snowflakes have become a blizzard.
Temu decided to cut out the middleman: Amazon, Walmart etc.
I have seen the exact same items, on Temu for half the price of what it is selling on Amazon or Walmart or any other website. I do a Google Lens search with a screenshot of the item. Some things are really bad knockoffs. Most are not.
Pay the People if these fools want to tax the people more. Billionaires get richer off the backs of the Working Class. Infect pay less and get taxed more. Where is the People’s fare share. $7.25 per hour is no longer acceptable to survive.
It’s BS. MAGA doesn’t want made in America if they have to pay more. This started back with Walmart. Filled the stores with China crap, open stores in communities wiped out mom and pop stores! This doesn’t sound American first to me.
Actually, thats amazingly funny, because any merchandiser shilling with Trump-branded shirts/hats literally wont be able to afford the cost tarrifs would put on them being made overseas...
Joe Biden did "Made in America" without destroying America, by incentives and federal help to businesses here. He started chips manufacturing. He did a infrastructure bill. He didn't bankrupt the entire country to do it.
Amazed at all the rabid "tax and spend" Republicans out there. Who knew they were always for huge tax increases...just not ones that Congress actually constructed / voted on. They were always for huge tax increases done by Presidential fiat. Wish we had known that two years ago!
If they so genuine in their desire to promote America how come they don't help Americans what they think attacking their own people is helping us with friends like that who need an enema!
In FL, due to their immigration laws, many undocumented migrants left, but FL still had a problem - Once hired, the AMERICANS said the jobs were too hard & the pay too low. Now FL wants to deregulate child labor laws so KIDS can work hard for low pay because the AMERICANS couldn't handle it.
they don't want to pay us, don't want us to have universal healthcare, don't care how much debt we go into for education, don't care if we're homeless, etc
They blame the person for not having money. Like everybody can save for retirement. I have and when I retired I paid off house new roof heater siding windows. I live off ss and my pension! Yeah house paid for but it’s not giving me a paycheck.
I’m willing to pay more for quality products from foreign countries. America is greedy. And the fast food we’re paying for. Is killing us: The love of the money is the root of all evil/watch America fall in less than 250 years. Trying to genocide the people that lived here before us, of 12,000 yrs
So if the opposite is true, and we appreciate stealing from one another more than being fair, then that whole Simpsons episode about Flanders eggs tasting better when stolen hits different now.
I can't wait to see people lose their minds when the Dollar Store is the $25 store
That $10 shirt from China will become $40-$50 when made in USA
The rich American manufacturing owners chose to move USA jobs overseas
Other countries did NOT 'steal' your jobs
Americans happily took the jobs overseas
Well, I for one, would be proud to buy american products even if they cost a bit more. How is this a controversial take? I think I need to read more of that thread. Is there anyone would would NOT pay a bit more for something made locally? I mean this for citizens of any country too.
I think it's more about who is saying it than what is being said. Saying you want American made products while also thinking minimum wage should not be a livable wage is not walking the talk.
The whole made in America is a joke. Republicans are the ones who insisted their ONLY obligation was to stock holders when they marched their companies into Asia, South America. Self inflicted wound. They said they didn't care about American jobs...their stockholders profits came first.
You won’t be able to afford to buy quality American products made by Americans unless you can convince millions of Americans to live on the same wages paid to people in Taiwan or Cambodia. Good luck with that.
The same people bitching about egg prices a few short months ago.
Anyhoo you will be paying more for things the only difference is they won’t be made in America because that takes time and money, you know like the chips act that trump pulled the pin!
Their idiocy knows no bounds!
MAGA then, MAGA now, MAGA 4Ever! No to: DEI, trans female impersonators in real girls sports, Medicare, welfare without a job after six months, mail-in voting, Ukraine aid. MAGE IS BEST FOR AMERICA!
Trump also made millions selling products that he produced overseas for decades. He never once showed an interest in American manufacturing until he needed a political identity, & the truth is he STILL doesn’t have an interest in the American worker, it’s just him flexing against other countries.
We're all talking about (manufactured) goods, because this is where 🥭🤡in his finite wisdom put the tariffs. But what about the IT industry? What about Google, Big Z etc.? They're not on the radar and guess why? MASSIVE imbalance, in the oligarchs' favor. If pushed too far, EU will bite back.
This shows how uneducated MAGA chuds are. I guess they would be willing to pay $4000 for an iPhone that would be produced in the US compared to maybe $1500 for one that is produced in China. Definitely the cost would be A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND most companies in the US don't want to pay a living wage
Are they going to demand that their dear leader manufacture his red hats, gold sneakers, clothing line, and other merchandise in the US? We can take them seriously after that.
Example. American Made home gym treadmill $10,000. Imported Taiwanese treadmill WAS $3000, after 26% steel & aluminum tariffs $4000. It is still more affordable, but the Amrrican consumer will pay that increase or not buy, and both are problematic for businesses.
I'll pay more if I have to, to TAKE DOWN the selfish fux who did this to us.
I'll drive my Korean car to democracy loving Costco and but Canadian and Mexican and European products and those from American companies that DON'T support racist Nazi Republicans.
I've been to Russia. At least the part I was in, I so no evidence that the Russian people are the kind of ugly, racist fux that red state Americans are.
I keep saying this. In October I bought a sectional couch made by Americans 100% in America. I paid $9823 for it. I buy one from overseas for $3500. Even if tariffs doubled price, they will still buy overseas one. They will just pay more for same thing.
Let's hear back from him when that wide-screen TV he bought at Walmart a few months ago for $300 is now going to cost $2000 because it's made in America now.
All of those companies will suddenly now be paying a decent wage?
I doubt it very much.
Companies will pay their workers the least amount of $ they can get away with.
Automation will eliminate jobs.
How much do you think your $7.99 T-shirt is going to cost when it’s made in the USA? Maybe 3-4 X.
Because fast fashion made in sweatshops doesn't reflect humane and fair labor, a sub $10 t-shirt has become normalized. Operating legally and with fair labor, if you produce basically the same shirt, it's just "expensive". You have to go more luxury so people can justify the $ difference. No middle
On the tariff naughty list Lesotho : "US brands and retailers sourcing from Lesotho include Foot Locker, Gap, Gloria Vanderbilt, JCPenney, Levi Strauss, Lululemon Athletica, Saks, Sears, Timberland and Wal-Mart .. In 2007, the average earnings of a textile worker .. $103 per month"
So many people are being financially abused by our unmatched hunger for cheap clothes.
That is SO shortsighted.
And the abuse to the environment is significant.
We just throw our old stuff away. We’re really not very conscientious.
I believe it was The Fifth Estate on the CBC that did an episode on clothing manufacturing in the 2/3’s world. Most of the workers have little chance of getting ahead. Unlike the factory owners.
In conversations I’ve either been involved in or overheard, people who make a livable wage don’t seem to think fast food workers should make a livable wage. They either don’t know or forgot about the people who fought for higher and livable wages before them.
To add to this, when people don't have money to spare, they are going to go for the cheaper options.
Sure, you can buy a $200 pair of real quality leather boots that will last you years if not for life with care and maintenance, but many people can't afford an extra $200 expense.
The problem with that logic is the CEOs of those companies will take the biggest piece of the pie with no return on the consumers investment...... The rich get richer, again....
you’ll pay more for American made products if you & many millions more have the jobs & incomes to buy those..47 wants cars made in America - where does he think all the materials to MAKE cars here would come from-Pittsburgh??? Fabric from New York??? It’s called a global economy for a reason 🌎
Honestly cooking is one of the great joys in life. If you pay a young adult to cook for you that's sad. That being said, any job worth doing should be paid a livable wage. Especially for young adults. We are the future. We are not machines. If it's not a livable wage it's NOT A JOB WORTH DOING.
Many jobs aren’t worth even half of that. Falsely inflated minimums results in inflation. Mandate 20 dollar “living wages” gets you $15 Happy Meals, $4.35 apples, etc. wages must be directly tied to supply and demand.
Except we have places with higher minimum wage and their happy meals do not in fact cost 15 dollars, stop listening to hypotheticals on the internet and go outside and look at reality
Prices have been higher and people have a valid complaint. Their wages haven't been growing to match the rise in pricing. We are creating poor people, people living on the edge, and most are voting against their own self interest.
I love the freedom of choice that american healthcare provides me. With Communist Healthcare, I'd only have one option: raising taxes and putting doctors and bankrupting insurance workers. With Good American care, I can choose between dozens of insurance providers to fuck my ass raw and deny me care
There's a compelling case for taking on one of the other models rather than the NHS one, which was the first and great in its own right but other countries are doing it better.
To be clear, I'm not in favour of reform or abolishion, any attempted changes will likely make it worse.
talked to fast food owner/operators regarding the wages. they believe that paying higher wages results in lazier workers who would just stop showing up for work because they have too much money...
States that allow less than $4 per hour for tipped workers:
AL, GA, ID, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MS, NH, NC, ND, OK, PA, SC, TN, TX, UT, WV, WI, WY.
Only CA, OR, WA, MN, MT, AL, and NV prohibit it, requiring employers to pay the full minimum wage regardless of tips. https://www.rippling.com/blog/minimum-wage-for-tipped-employees
Missouri legislators are right now trying their damness to repeal the minimum wage increase that Missourians voted in!!! No- they want you to live in the street and work that job for pennies! 🤬🤬🤬
As a retired auto worker, I’ve heard from plenty of people who do not want workers to be paid a decent wage. Or have health insurance, or pensions. Or even over time pay.
If you can find enough people who want the jobs anyway! Why do you think these companies hire migrants??? Americans don’t want these jobs!! 🤦🏻♀️ yeeeeessshhhh
This is the stupidest lie ever. NOBODY is willing to pay more money for anything regardless of where the product is made.
Most people are always looking for the best value (sometimes the cheapest) because that’s all they can afford. Our Federal minimum wage is still at $ 7.25 per hour!!!
A living wage in most cities in the United States right now is around $60,000 a year, and I don't think people working at McDonald's should be making $30 an hour. Especially 15 and 16 year olds that don't know anything. I go left on most things, but not this.
That’s not who works those jobs. And even if it did it would just enable people to save and buy homes. Pay them the same and the just force the kids to save in an account for college or home
So you don’t think McDonald’s workers, even 15 and 16 year olds (which is a minority of their work force) should not get paid enough to…(checks notes)…afford things and save money?
Say you started out making $7 an hour as a Carpenters helper that was 30 years ago now you make $25 an hour as a carpenter and then all of a sudden they raise minimum wage to $15 an hour and you're still making $25 with 30 years experience
I think minimum wage should be high enough for a teenager living with their parents to be able to afford to pay their own car insurance and car payment and buy his own clothes. And then they should look for a job with a ladder to climb. Or go to school.
Currently impossible to do that. Cost of car insurance is higher. Ex: when I went to college I could pay tuition etc with a summer job & a pt time job - now I would be short 1000s of $. Min wage was enough 40 years ago but has not risen with inflation
"It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry;..."b
The last time I made minimum wage I was 16 and still lived with my mother. That was 1986. No adult living on their own should still only be making minimum wage.
Why do you think some people say millennials don't want to work?
Because they refuse to work at a job that won't pay them a fair price for their labor.
We workers can try to force the greedy owner's hand, but having a law to make them do the right thing is usually necessary.
Fast food pays $15/hr
Then the carpenters need to be telling the bosses they will be asking for $50/hr.
The bosses have increased the prices they charge accordingly over the last 30 years, so they have been stealing from their employees for quite some time.
I worked at Sterilite (plastic factory) when minimum wage went from $8.65 to $13.50. I already made $13.00 after being promoted a couple times. After the minimum wage was raised, everyone got a $3.50 raise right away. It still didn’t make up the difference and it seems like most companies followed
I started building houses i age 27 got a dollar raise for showing up everyday for a week. Then I got another dollar raise for buying a saw. Within 4 years I owned the company. And hired my boss. If you're still making minimum wage as an adult you're not trying hard enough
I'm underpaid. I don't work for someone else anymore. I just think everything cost too much. Like a fucking McDonald's cheeseburger should be no more than $1 ever. A Coke should never be more than $1 ever. A sheet of plywood should never be more than $10 ever. derp.? Dumbass people keep buying it.
I only made minimum wage for one month at my first job before I got a raise when I was 16 years old 15 and a half actually. That's what minimum wage is for those kids. Life doesn't hand out participation trophies. You don't just get raises because you want more money you have to work for it.
I don't think a McDonald's meal is worth $13. Especially now that it's not even fast, and it's barely food. It's not a job for adults unless you're the manager.
I'm afraid the low-paying jobs that were held by immigrants will now be filled by seniors (except roofing and the other more labor intensive jobs.) Oh, well! For the labor-intensive jobs, we always have children!
For real. Or teacher assistance. In NC people make more money at target and McDonalds than as a teacher assistant or secretary at a school. You can see how much the reps in NC value public education.
Good for you buddy. Let’s see how all those folks who were fired and all those folks who are paying higher prices at the grocery store and all those folks who are afraid they’re losing their Social Security feel about paying higher price prices for American goods.
Sadly some do when they work two fast food jobs. Many don’t have health benefits provided. It’s hard to justifying eating at a fast food restaurant these days. When you see an owner walk in to check on workers while carrying a LV purse it makes you cringe. 😳
Fortunately for this guy, when you live in Hypocrite Land every new situation is completely isolated and unrelated to anything else you ever said or believed.
trumpers just don’t GET the math do they? The reason everything is made “Offshore” is because companies say they aren’t able to pay a liveable wage to employees in America. But those companies record breaking profits say differently.
That’s why it will never happen- America workers would have to be paid salaries that corporations will never pay- and if they did, the products would cost way more than what people would pay for them- so anyone who believes this is going to work needs to get their head out of the sand
Plus the environmental regulations that were put in place so they just went to china a country that had to shut down their factories during the Olympics because the air was to polluted.
They are also the same people who think they are too good to work as a server or in any part of the service economy. 😩 Best training for being decent humans my kids ever got was working in restaurants. 👏 That and raising their own food when they were littles was a character win for our family. 😉
Meanwhile Florida Republican lawmakers are pushing to change child labor laws to make up labor from the mass deportations. They don't care if they get "paid a decent income."
Don’t you think they’ve been freeloading long enough? People want to give them free food at school too! Let them work! They’ve got such small fingers, they’re perfect for the garment industry. Meat packing too. Most parents don’t even charge rent!
Yep - the maga crowd looks down on livable wages - they bitch if fast food workers make more the cost of their burgers and fries will go up, yet they act like musk is a genius and an expert inventor- Musk, like Trump, is human scum and hope they become worm food before summer 2025
The billionaire don’t think anyone should make money, just give it to them. Like Reagan said they are the only ones who know what to do with it, thirty year republican dream 😴, wake up America
If I am competing with a good that suddenly goes up by 25 percent because of it, it's a tariff, I can raise my prices 15 percent and still compete nicely.
Welll I will definitely look online to see if they sell any stones because honestly, if they do, it would be a great place for me to source from!!!! And actually digging my own sounds kind of fun now🤣
🩷 There is a couple on YouTube that travels the country mining for gems. I don’t remember a name or I would provide a link. It looked like hard work. It did look like there would be no energy left for rage though. 👍
Hardie has no idea what those would cost. He’d buy Temu junk, cheaper even with tariffs.
Dumpty wants us back in the 19th century when most people lived short lives in poverty, and a few got rich.
The mental conditioning runs deep. People close to me were bred to have a warp sense of perception. I watched a an individual lose her shit because fast food workers wanted more money 🤯. I assured her that I don't give a shit...
I then explained what they eat don't make her shit.
This is too true. It sure seems to be "I should make $500K per year!
Those people are overpaid at $7.25 per hour! They want a raise and next they will want medical benefits!
Leveling the trade playing field should mean addressing labor abuses/exploitation and environmental harm abroad - not increasing tariffs that American consumers end up paying.
As someone who has been shopping consciously for the past decade or so, I can tell you that paying more would mean paying anywhere between 2x to 10x for the same products that are made within your country or sustainably made.
On the Sunday talk shows they kept talking about bringing manufacturing jobs back to the U.S. without once mentioning who sent those jobs overseas. Corporations are responsible because of their greed, and now all Americans will suffer for the corporations making record profits.
Right but they claim people assembling phones will make America great !! How about Florida and other states rolling back child labor laws …. You want uneducated cheap labor workers who won’t stand up to a Dictator! Well we will overthrow you as well!!! Rise up make some good trouble
A lot of things aren't possible to make 100% here. Want to open clothing company? Who do you think manufactures the machines you need? Not us. Where are the skilled workers who know how to use the machines? People can be trained, but by who? Global markets are not a bad thing.
Global markets are not a bad thing.To answer one of your questions; people could be trained by the same people who built, maintained, and repaired those machines before. They could be trained by the people who produced on those machines before. Being fully dependent on global trade is a bad thing.
I was talking about the Americans who did all of that prior to the great manufacturing exodus. They are still here and haven't gone daft. They can teach. The opposite of your point.
And are those people even still alive? How much has the technology changed since then? Here, since I think you're missing the point, watch this video. Her skit explains things better than I can. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8jF57pS/
Yes, they are alive. They are all over the little forgotten places of the USA. I'm not missing the point at all. I am simply trying to point out something you have wrong. Bringing manufacturing back to the US won't happen overnight, but that doesn't mean it can't happen at all. Don't sell us short.
You pay with your debit card, don't even look at them, then drive away... Come on, leave a little coin...they are your sons and daughters... Teach them gratitude for service...
Minimum wage should be enough to support yourself without food stamps … minimum wage should be enough to support yourself without having 2 or 3 jobs to make rent. 
I will pay extra for anything made in Canada or the EU bc I know they have strict standards and produce quality goods.Not supporting the takeover of the US by Oligarchs.Don't spend your $$ on ppl trying to turn our Country into a Fascist State.
What MAGA don’t understand is that is cheaper to manufacture in other countries. For example, the minimum wage in Mexico is at $278 pesos per day (8hrs) =$13 usd vs USA $15 x 1 h x 8 a day= $120 usd per day.
$120-$13 = positive $107 usd.
Huge difference for costs of manufacturing in USA and abroad.
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This is why you shouldn't listen to influencers. Most of them have the IQ of a donkey and the knowledge of a toddler.
I have seen the exact same items, on Temu for half the price of what it is selling on Amazon or Walmart or any other website. I do a Google Lens search with a screenshot of the item. Some things are really bad knockoffs. Most are not.
I forgot; but didn't Biden try to bring manufacturing here?
I forgot but why do we not manufacture stuff here?
Where are those magat hats made?
Hypocrisy, thy name is REPUBLICAN.
How much more are you willing to pay?
These 27 GROUPS are PAST examples of what FUTURE, ELECTED, UNITED, GOVERNING DEMOCRATS can do
People need to be INFORMED about this
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Hey pal we live in the reality of lies, deceptions and the sting. 🚫 trying to dress that 💩⬆️
It's meant for all the people that are suddenly going to rename their performance pay, tips.
It's been for all the people that get massive bonuses every year which are now, tips.
Does he realise his money will not now cover all his needs.
That $10 shirt from China will become $40-$50 when made in USA
The rich American manufacturing owners chose to move USA jobs overseas
Other countries did NOT 'steal' your jobs
Americans happily took the jobs overseas
Anyhoo you will be paying more for things the only difference is they won’t be made in America because that takes time and money, you know like the chips act that trump pulled the pin!
Their idiocy knows no bounds!
He isn't.
He wants companies here because then he can have power over them.
He wants the capitalists under his thumb as well.
The GOP will want to expand labor supply (unemployment, child labor) so these new show factories have the cheap labor needed.
Being prepared and ready to act - seems better than not being so at this point in time.
https://medium.com/@aletheisthenes/on-april-20th-2025-the-united-states-will-cross-the-point-of-no-return-0aecac04cfc3
GOP/MAGA voters need to be held accountable for dragging this country into the toilet.
https://www.alternet.org/alternet-exclusives/trump-voters-are-pretending-like-they-were-duped-don-t-believe-it/
I'll pay more if I have to, to TAKE DOWN the selfish fux who did this to us.
I'll drive my Korean car to democracy loving Costco and but Canadian and Mexican and European products and those from American companies that DON'T support racist Nazi Republicans.
I've been to Russia. At least the part I was in, I so no evidence that the Russian people are the kind of ugly, racist fux that red state Americans are.
But what they're doing in Ukraine says they are.
I'll say red states are the real life Gilead. My state went red too, but we at least got Shapiro for now.
Canada and Russia have the world's biggest temperate forests, and had big wildfires.
Siberia, Russian far East, poverty and corruption, smuggling and poaching.
I doubt it very much.
Companies will pay their workers the least amount of $ they can get away with.
Automation will eliminate jobs.
How much do you think your $7.99 T-shirt is going to cost when it’s made in the USA? Maybe 3-4 X.
That is SO shortsighted.
And the abuse to the environment is significant.
We just throw our old stuff away. We’re really not very conscientious.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/s184
Those items usually cost 2-10x more than their cheaper counterparts.
If people are paid higher wages, they'd be more likely to spend on quality American made products.
This is a multilayered issue which tariffs do nothing to solve.
Sure, you can buy a $200 pair of real quality leather boots that will last you years if not for life with care and maintenance, but many people can't afford an extra $200 expense.
You've been lied to
Which is fine, so long as you stop repeating it when you learn its untrue
Bring it in
That is too funny. I was thinking the same , but that was very clever.
To be clear, I'm not in favour of reform or abolishion, any attempted changes will likely make it worse.
talked to fast food owner/operators regarding the wages. they believe that paying higher wages results in lazier workers who would just stop showing up for work because they have too much money...
AL, GA, ID, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MS, NH, NC, ND, OK, PA, SC, TN, TX, UT, WV, WI, WY.
Only CA, OR, WA, MN, MT, AL, and NV prohibit it, requiring employers to pay the full minimum wage regardless of tips.
https://www.rippling.com/blog/minimum-wage-for-tipped-employees
https://www.tumblr.com/unitedwestand2025/780106283738103808/would-you-copy-paste-and-send-this-letter-to
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A week is 290.00$ . How is the hell do you live on 290$ a week!
That generation retired 3 decades ago or more.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1191/vote_119_1_00184.htm
Most people are always looking for the best value (sometimes the cheapest) because that’s all they can afford. Our Federal minimum wage is still at $ 7.25 per hour!!!
"It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry;..."b
Because they refuse to work at a job that won't pay them a fair price for their labor.
We workers can try to force the greedy owner's hand, but having a law to make them do the right thing is usually necessary.
Fast food pays $15/hr
The bosses have increased the prices they charge accordingly over the last 30 years, so they have been stealing from their employees for quite some time.
Put your money where your mouth is...or your posts...
To bad the majority of thing that the republicans say are American made are actually only assembled in America using globally sourced materials!
Like: women should have their babies. YET we won't give them medical care, child care, parental leave, early child hood education...
If I am competing with a good that suddenly goes up by 25 percent because of it, it's a tariff, I can raise my prices 15 percent and still compete nicely.
American goods are going to get more expensive.
but guess what they don’t make half of them here they’re not mined cut or created here🤔🤔🤔
And I need activities to keep my rage in check 🤣
Dumpty wants us back in the 19th century when most people lived short lives in poverty, and a few got rich.
I then explained what they eat don't make her shit.
https://stir-tea-coffee.com/tea-coffee-news/uncertainty-of-us-reciprocal-tariffs-riles-tea-trade/
Those people are overpaid at $7.25 per hour! They want a raise and next they will want medical benefits!
Coffee pot
Made in China: $75.00
Made in USA: $345.00
$120-$13 = positive $107 usd.
Huge difference for costs of manufacturing in USA and abroad.