The PlayStation 5 Pro doesn't feel like the console of the future; it feels like a vestige of a rapidly disappearing past. This week's announcement just showcased the futility of the video game graphics arms race. This week's column: www.bloomberg.com/news/newslet... - ThreadSky

jasonschreier.bsky.social • 166 days ago

The PlayStation 5 Pro doesn't feel like the console of the future; it feels like a vestige of a rapidly disappearing past. This week's announcement just showcased the futility of the video game graphics arms race.
This week's column: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-09-13/playstation-5-pro-shows-futility-of-video-game-graphics-race?srnd=undefined

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lordkelvinx2086.bsky.social•166 days ago

I already paid an arm and a leg for my base PS5 (on top of fighting scalpers for the right to buy it in the first place), and it's run virtually every game that I would care to play perfectly fine. I don't care about "next gen" graphics, just make the games fun to play.

nihilistgamer.bsky.social•166 days ago

I’d be more inclined to buy-in if I felt better about this gen’s titles. But the lack of 1st party must-have games really make this feel empty.
Seeing AstroBots “celebration” of their titles really showed me how shallow their library has gotten. They really need to build more IP.

stewshearer.bsky.social•166 days ago

The most impressed I can remember being with a console was seeing the N64 in action for the 1st time at a demo kiosk. It felt like such a massive leap from what was available before. It's been a long time since anything has felt like a real step forward. Not enough that I would pay for it, at least.

roto13.bsky.social•166 days ago

I maintain that the jump from Genesis/SNES to Saturn/PS1/N64 was the most exciting time to be into video games. There hasn't been anything else quite like the switch from 2D to 3D. Some jumps from 3D to nicer 3D have been exciting, too, but not like that.

stewshearer.bsky.social•166 days ago

I very much agree. Early 3D games could be awkward, at times, but it was all so new! Watching it unfold as a child was so mesmerizing. It was a new frontier unfolding in front of us. While I do love the how much more open and accessible modern game dev is, I miss that old spectacle.

8bittripper.bsky.social•166 days ago

I think it's good to point out that the 2 best selling consoles of all time are the PS2 (because it was a DVD player too) and the Switch (a notoriously under powered unit). So what's the purpose of a pro system? Who is this really for?

unabridgedgamer.bsky.social•166 days ago

Yeah, I've pretty much just accepted that Sony isn't even trying to sell to me anymore. I miss their experimental days, when they always had something new.

Now they'll remaster their games and their console. I can imagine it makes more money... but it's a shame.

lassa.bsky.social•165 days ago

Nobody buys their experimental stuff. Do you have a PSVR or PSVR2? Did you buy the playstation 3d display? How about the eye toy? Ps Move? None of them sold well.

unabridgedgamer.bsky.social•165 days ago

Uh, yes, I own a PS Move, a PS3 EYE, a PSVR, I snagged a Wonderbook on sale, a PS Vita, and I'd love to some day have one of those 3D displays.

I also was more specifically referring to their IPs and games.

unabridgedgamer.bsky.social•165 days ago

You know, like: Puppeteer, Heavenly Sword, Flower, Journey, Bound, Under Siege, The Last Guardian, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Savage Moon, LBP, ModNation Racer, 3D Dot Heroes, Resistance, Killzone, EchoChrome, The Getaway, Siren, or any of the countless other IPs reduced to a reference in Astrobot

lassa.bsky.social•165 days ago

I assumed you were talking hardware, as the post was about hardware.

unabridgedgamer.bsky.social•165 days ago

It's a gaming system, the software and hardware go hand in hand? And you could've asked?

tubazef.com•166 days ago

One note there Jason, the Switch is actually closer to a PS3 than to a PS4

kvetcha.bsky.social•165 days ago

In raw grunt, yes, but it’s considerably more modern in terms of architecture and feature set.

tubazef.com•165 days ago

I know, those things are pretty complicated, but in general terms it is pretty far from the PS4. Which is why stuff like The Witcher 3 and DOOM Eternal are so impressive, even if they look awful compared to other versions

kvetcha.bsky.social•165 days ago

Agreed, but I guess I’m saying those wouldn’t have even been possible on the PS3; functionally, Switch is a weak but portable 8th gen system rather than a powerful 7th gen system.

eugeneprunk.bsky.social•166 days ago

yep, and seems like next nintendo console will be as powerful as ps4. imagine what they can do with such hardware while looking what they’ve already achieved with switch

johnhoyabembe.bsky.social•165 days ago

Nintendo legit has me so excited for a PS4.

tubazef.com•166 days ago

Yes and we haven't seen a Nintendo console with that big of a leap over a previous generation since the WiiU in 2012

itsdaniemeka.bsky.social•166 days ago

The PS5 Pro is giving: We’re out of ideas here’s some useless AI feature and everything is sold separately. Please but it…

diegogomelim.bsky.social•165 days ago

It's funny to see they releasing a console that supposedly reaches a better level of realism in the middle of a crisis in the industry, where the games take ages to develop due to the "necessity" ultra realistic games.

bponto.bsky.social•165 days ago

As someone who's just beaten and absolutely loved Nier Automata and Ace Combat 7 on the Switch, games that run on a steady 30fps with zero anti-aliasing, I can vouch for gamers wanting great experiences over hiperrealism.

eugeneprunk.bsky.social•166 days ago

watched this stream while i was walking to home from work using vpn

timbotastic.bsky.social•166 days ago

If anything, it's got me hyped for the Switch 2 announcement, as Nintendo usually brings fun innovation to the table. I'm quietly hoping for the return of the TV sensor bar (or a fancier version of it) so a new Wii Sports and light gun games can be on the menu again 🙌

roto13.bsky.social•165 days ago

Switch 1 has both of those things

timbotastic.bsky.social•165 days ago

It does... But the aiming on the Wii with the Wiimote Plus remains vastly superior. Wii Sports Resort is peak level when compared with Switch Sports, which is an inaccurate mess in comparison.

echootter.bsky.social•166 days ago

I’m playing a new throwback survival horror game called Hollowbody right now that was effective made by one person. You wouldn’t mistake it for a AAA game for a lot of reasons, but it is amazing how much more engaging it is than games that have a relatively infinite level of fidelity.

mrcmisterc.bsky.social•166 days ago

Sony is in a comfortable position without competition.

coolingdwd.bsky.social•165 days ago

I'd argue Sony turned PlayStation into a PC gaming rival that neither the enthusiast market nor anyone else asked for—and they've already lost their direction and competitive edge due to their own missteps.

palhassorisada.bsky.social•166 days ago

Congrats to Sony for managing this level of reproval 👏

markshatraw.bsky.social•166 days ago

I love 20 minutes of Mark Cerny Explaining Stuff ASMR as much as anybody but had he not circled that dude's head in Spider-Man to show me how much sharper it is, I would not have noticed there was a dude there *at all*

maxjes.bsky.social•166 days ago

Cerny has forgotten more about making games than I will ever know, but it was impossible to watch the demo and not come away with “pixel-fucking” as the description of the improvements.

calhounwasright.bsky.social•165 days ago

I've been feeling this way ever since the previous console generation. I also feel it when gaming on the PC; there's not much difference gaming at 144Hz versus 360Hz. Their pisser tech didn't impress me much due to my experience with DLSS, FSR, and XeSS

coolingdwd.bsky.social•165 days ago

As someone who plays Roblox, yeah.
I marvel at some of the minigames graphics, but at the end of the day if something is fun, I'm fine playing even with lo-fi models.
'Dress to impress' shows that mainstream audiences are fine with a standard quality, so who is being served by this "arms race"?

otakucho.bsky.social•166 days ago

Diminishing returns. Just make better games. Remember they made games without a day one patch.

samgamgi.bsky.social•165 days ago

I have a 4090, the most disgustingly expensive piece of hardware a gamer could buy, and even I'm not feeling the PS5 Pro deserves my attention.

Think I'll save for a PS6 in 3 to 4 years.

reciter5613.bsky.social•166 days ago

No disk drive, no thank you!

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