from a defense and security standpoint I am struggling to think of a mechanism by which the u.s. could add canada by force and not also add a permanent, very nasty insurgency rather than a bunch of earnest new voters - ThreadSky

mgerrydoyle.bsky.social • 5 days ago

from a defense and security standpoint I am struggling to think of a mechanism by which the u.s. could add canada by force and not also add a permanent, very nasty insurgency rather than a bunch of earnest new voters

Reposted from Peter Baker

Canada as the 51st state? Trump thinks it would be a boon to his legacy. But it would also be a boon to Democrats, who would gain a lot more voters. www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/u...

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minerva1.bsky.social•5 days ago

Peter Baker is a monster.

exogenesis2.bsky.social•5 days ago

Not just any insurgency, one with a population that looks and sounds very similar to Americans, huge areas of wilderness to hide in and with a massive land border with the US that can't be secured.

pecunium.bsky.social•5 days ago

And a LOT more guns than Americans expect; and a lot more practice being outside in the Winter.

whisk.bsky.social•5 days ago

imagine trying to secure resource operations or hundreds of kilometres of critical pipelines from people whose healthcare you just ganked

jumbanho.bsky.social•5 days ago

You are assuming there are thoughts?

b-mlln.bsky.social•5 days ago

well Gaza will be empty by then, so Trump could send all the Canadians there

pecunium.bsky.social•5 days ago

The Quebecois are singing "O, Canada"

No way that goes well if the US tried to invade.

peltast1.bsky.social•5 days ago

Millions of people with Canadian ties living in the USA right now, with plenty of money and unlimited US access to all the firearms they can carry.

jctenton.bsky.social•5 days ago

if canada really wanted to fuck with the US they'd give them quebec as a compromise

cimmerion.bsky.social•5 days ago

Pretty sure most Trump voters think there are more moose than people in Canada and the actual humans just sit around drinking beer and watching hockey all day.

hammbear2024.bsky.social•5 days ago

Build the Arrow

mgerrydoyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

as canada is a democracy it is also very hard, impossible really, to imagine a scenario in which it "peacefully" decides to become part of the united states. the party in power would be voted out instantaneously for even suggesting it

ambiorickx.bsky.social•5 days ago

I’m sure the Canadians are champing at the bit to get our health care and gun culture

mlow.bsky.social•5 days ago

Maybe some of them would like to understand that we have a Constitution that's difficult to amend already? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elijah_Harper

warandcoffee.bsky.social•5 days ago

Aside from everything else wrong about this, it's revealing that he can't imagine that Canadians would do anything other than vote Democrat, rather than say form their own party

mgerrydoyle.bsky.social•5 days ago

so what are we talking about

greenjoel.bsky.social•5 days ago

the Quebecois will greet us as liberators ⚜️

(or that is at least how the Musk AI translators will render it)

mlow.bsky.social•5 days ago

Jesus christ even the replies to this are all, well, if Canada came in this way it might work in terms of the electoral college, good GOD. The empire of it all!

wendella.bsky.social•5 days ago

Maybe to give Baker the MAXIMUM benefit of the doubt, this is an effort to demonstrate how counterproductive this would be electorally for Trump's party.

(Not to mention the sheer atrocity of attacking a reliable ally for no reason, an argument which of course would sway Trump in no way.)

midnightplat.bsky.social•5 days ago

It definitely doesn't make sense to add a Congressional delegation that would proportionally be the largest since I think Canada's population is a little bit bigger than California's by a couple of mil. Stupidity about mineral rights is the only thing that makes sense, though it's still nuts.

hoya81.bsky.social•5 days ago

The only way for this to make sense for Canada in terms of maximizing its political power is having 7 or 8 provinces come in as individual states with their own senators, not one giant state.

nichtsnutz.bsky.social•5 days ago

Provoking NATO?

pauljnadeau.bsky.social•5 days ago

Leverage!

various-threnodies.bsky.social•5 days ago

I think Baker unfortunately is just like a large number of our Beltway press in that he doesn't really engage with geopolitics at all. These guys don't seem to understand that this could very rapidly become a legitimate security crisis if Trump keeps talking like this.

jrfanboy.bsky.social•5 days ago

The cruel, stupid people running (sic) the United States of America (sic) are purposefully, deliberately destroying same by all means at their disposal, including advocating things they cannot actually do as they claim, but know will fuck up underlying relationships.

Or so it seems

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