Kublai Khan, grandson of Genghis Khan, said.. if you want to succeed, you must do the hard things. Dem leadership.. if you’re listening.. Time to do the hard things.
No but holding signs accomplished nothing. Everyone already knows Trump lies.
Senators and House Reps speaking up like Al Green, one right after the other, would have been a resistance to hearing lies. Just as soon as everyone gets settled and Trump starts to speak again, the next one goes.
Does holding up a cardboard sign really constitute a challenge? They have legs to stand and voices to shout, yet this impotent gesture is the best they could come up with?
Is the idea that we'll all be so pissed off at the Republicans that we'll elect Democrats next time no matter what they (don't) do now? That actually might work, if the excuses people are making for them now is any indication.
Do you want them to throw rocks at Trump? State what you want them to do. I want them to hold press conferences every time Musk makes a move to pick it apart for the media.
Is that a rhetorical question? Have you never heard of a protest? Rosa Parks sitting in front would get what? Besides thrown off a bus? Use your imagination - or don’t. Thanks for listening.
That kind of protest is valuable but it has a limited shelf life. The regime gets used to it. Lot of people out in the streets has a cumulative impact.
Or, in the case of Rosa Parks, the protest becomes a well known and iconic symbol of a moral struggle. Sure it’s a gamble but the current strategy doesn’t seem to be working. MAGA is winning.
holding those press conferences is the worst idea. its exactly what musk wants is for democrats to meticulously untangle his web of lies. call him an autocratic fascist and fucking be done with it
Press conferences by a Democratic shadow cabinet is good because the vast majority of voters are clueless and have no idea what's happening. You know they're fascists and,I know they're fascists, but most people are unaware of what the fascists are doing.
Dem “leadership” didn’t want to do anything. That’s why every member of Dem “leadership” needs to be primaried immediately. Talk to you, Schumer and Pelosi. Never have two people been such worthless, incompetent, corrupt and self serving. If we don’t throw them out of office, they won’t leave.
They need a generational shift. Too many of them are in their 70's (34 %) So they stuck in their old ways of doing things where they abide by norms who have long been pushed aside by republicans. Politics is now a team sport. bipartisanship is no longer rewarded, so stop trying to reach for it.
Just as ineffectual as I expected them to be. Sure, I hoped they would do better, but really? Fucking paddles? Every single one of them should have been tossed out of that chamber for shouting him down. Useless.
This period of history (provided there IS a history) will be studied for generations. One party hellbent on destroying our democracy, and the other too weak to do anything to stop it.
Ah, democrat reps, your voters are getting sick of your weak, feeble politics.
Jeffries has always been WUSS, and Schumer should have retired years ago. Keep Following their punk-ass lead at your risk! Corporate donors did elect y'all. MAN/WOMAN THE F*** UP!!!
Thankfully, as an Independent, @sanders.senate.gov IS doing this. Appreciate you acknowledging his hard work fighting for us. We all should thank him more often.
My post wasn’t appealing to him bc he’s not a #Democrat. I’ll be clearer next time.
No it’s not better than nothing because this IS nothing. They should have taken a page from Green or at the very least protected him when they tried to remove him.
Shameful. They should’ve walked out with green. Each and every one of them instead of sitting there letting Trump bash them. Jeffries is horrible as a leader. Schumer not much better. We need the young strong woman to take over, paging aoc and Crockett.
YES! Both of these ladies have been on fire🔥 and I am so proud that they are doing what they are but damn we need MANY more to step up like Al Green!💙 We want to cheer them on and do what’s needed. If they can’t do it, we will find representatives who can and will do it! Full stop!
Exactly. We can’t sit back quietly. There are a handful that step up and that’s it. I don’t get it. I had such high hopes for Jeffries. I wish he would step down now. It’s enough already. We won’t win with his attitude. We need toughness.
Yes, I was very disappointed when he advised his fellow Democrats to follow decorum. We are way past that. We haven't been respected so why should be respectful? They haven't earned it. I was very disappointed in Jeffries as well. We need a leader like AOC or Crockett. They are walking the walk!
DNC Isn’t there for you and me. They are there to get the pac money. All the pollsters agree. Bernie would have won in 2016 and 2020. Who stopped him? It was the dnc. They’d rather lose with Hillary than win with Bernie or aoc - who they primaried twice. Start over with BERN
Ahhhhh shiiit! This is gonna be one hell of a resistance with the wittle paddle signs, pink outfits, and the one and only Hakeem Jeffries 'uncorking'. Facism's worst nightmare!
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Given that Rep Al Green was forcibly ejected just for repeatedly correctly shouting something like you have no mandate and now they are considering censuring Rep Green, what exactly would you have done? I did not like the way you demeaned the Democrats.
Censuring does nothing. It's merely a public shaming, as if Al Green should feel shame for speaking the truth. There are no consequences for his speaking out, aside from possibly being manhandled on the way out.
I joined a virtual town hall with Dean, Houllihan and one other rep from PA and all them and the lawyer they had on was talk about "well what he's doing is illegal so the courts will take care of it".
Just completely ignoring that Trump doesn't care and all the damage being done now.
I believe in unity and in giving people a chance. I also believe in calling out incompetence. Dems have incompetent leaders. Their inability to organize protests at GOP senators/reps offices, their inability to deal with Musk, a stupid SOTU sign tactic, etc.
Reading the latest article tells me that you are either still in denial or actually have not pieced together why Democrats have been so limp in their response.
The answer is simple: they are complicit. They don’t care about what is happening, they profit regardless. It’s just optics for the future.
Part of me bets they did this min. act b/c Trump has set his sights on punishing political opponents, & we know the law doesn't apply to him. Can't have much resistance if you're locked up. Even repubs are trying to turn misdemeanors into felonies for protesters. Why? Most states, felons can't vote.
They should be smart enough to know that the camera would be almost exclusively on Trump, so why such a hollow gesture if only their colleagues are going to see it? Be like Al Green and at least heckle the fascist bastards.
People had been calling on them to do a walk out, or to at least just not turn up to the thing because it didn't look like they were coordinated enough to do a walk out.
The suggestion was made, this is what they chose to do instead.
Let me quote directly from the article what Ken suggests:
"I thought that we’d see the Democrats shouting something and interrupting Trump every five minutes until they were down to the last protester. But nothing of the sort happened."
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Senators and House Reps speaking up like Al Green, one right after the other, would have been a resistance to hearing lies. Just as soon as everyone gets settled and Trump starts to speak again, the next one goes.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/serbia-lawmakers-injured-smoke-bombs-flares-thrown-parliament/
holding those press conferences is the worst idea. its exactly what musk wants is for democrats to meticulously untangle his web of lies. call him an autocratic fascist and fucking be done with it
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Jeffries has always been WUSS, and Schumer should have retired years ago. Keep Following their punk-ass lead at your risk! Corporate donors did elect y'all. MAN/WOMAN THE F*** UP!!!
I do wish #DEMOCRATS wld offer shadow town halls in #GOP districts. Invite everyone, incl #MAGATS.
Stop wasting YOUR followers’ bsky space by only criticizing Dems. They’re not the ones destroying the US or Ukraïne
My post wasn’t appealing to him bc he’s not a #Democrat. I’ll be clearer next time.
Even the milquetoast heckles were just joke setups for Trump
Why can't Democrats be assholes?
Just completely ignoring that Trump doesn't care and all the damage being done now.
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Dems have no idea how to fight fascists
And this is after the Democrats ran on the platform of “he is literally orange Hìtler”.
Democrats are performative opposition. That is all.
The answer is simple: they are complicit. They don’t care about what is happening, they profit regardless. It’s just optics for the future.
https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social/post/3ljlccebvjs2z
The suggestion was made, this is what they chose to do instead.
"I thought that we’d see the Democrats shouting something and interrupting Trump every five minutes until they were down to the last protester. But nothing of the sort happened."