it was a good message from trump ... pretend its a state thing, the SC made the decision, nothing to do with me and then let the courts ban it across the nation, AZ just voted to protect Abortion so she thinks as far as she is concerned all good, for a uni student the lack of info is stunning
yeah it is all performative and I have no doubt at all that Trump sup[ports abortion, he has paid for enough of them but all about power and therefore people can place their ideals onto him
What can he do? We’ve seen how the courts and everyone reacted to the Biden admin mindfully suggesting that social media stop spreading misinformation about Covid and turned that in to a violation of the first amendment. I thinks it’s clear you don’t understand the reality we are living in.
I'm in agreement with Annmarie. MSM is not young women's default source of information. Even my 40-yo niece claims her primary source of news is TikTok. 🤦♀️Try AP, I suggest.
My god, abortion was one of the few things the Harris campaign actually WAS consistently on message about. Sometimes there's people you will just never reach.
Because the Harris campaign was quite explicit about their position on abortion and trumps actual position on abortion repeating his EXACT words. The people you need to complain about is the fucking media that sane-wash every thing he says. Get a brain and pay attention.
Yeah, there are things to criticize but Harris was extremely on message about abortion. This is about how deeply fucked up white women are and will uphold white supremacy at the cost of everything else.
The only thing I will say on this -- bc i think she did an okay job here! -- is that abortion content is horribly censored on most platforms that college students would use. Tiktok, Meta, and Google search are all awful on this and promote blatant lies and bs influencers over the truth.
Indeed, the campaign can only do so much. When the mainstream media credulously pass on Trump's denial of his abortion intents, years after he personally took credit for the downfall of Roe, it's hard to see what the candidate should do.
So, yes, it's a "messaging problem" but I'd be careful where that blame actually should go. Certainly not to Harris, who made abortion rights _the focus_ of her entire strategy.
The kind of view you see in the clip is from someone who has consumed zero political media and was pushed into voting so they just went with the first thing they heard, usually from a family member.
These are the 'apolitical' 'both sides are the same' people.
There's no real messaging you can do for that. They don't consume the vectors, you just hope you knock on their door in ground game and even then they might see Trump is taller and vote for him anyway.
Because that voter has agency, and is an adult who is capable of clearing the LOWEST FUCKING BAR for being a sentient organism in this election. Don't infantilize her by pretending that she's just a widdle baby bird unable to grasp anything that's not spoon-fed to her.
honestly? they gave detailed responses to questions that focused on policy instead of dumbing it down for the half of americans who are too illiterate to read the book "holes" (yeah, the one that the movie is based on. that book.)
Oh it couldn’t possibly be that this young lady was CLUELESS could it? Why are the rest of us very clear on Kamala’s abortion stance but not this young lady? 🙄
it's always the black woman's fault, not the white woman's for failing to even do the bare minimum of effort to be informed about shit as is her civic obligation
THere is clearly nothing that could have been said to convince this woman otherwise if they are able to come to a conclusion so disconnected from reality.
Turns out people are stupid and vile and no amount of facts or basic morals will change that.
Partly, they should have ran ads in all 50 states. The disinformation machine is massive and thks to Citizens United the old adage “The Golden Rule: He who has the Gold makes the rules.” Take some solace, the MAGAt fucks that voted for this will suffer as well, then they whine they were misled 🖕🏼
I'm paraphrasing Buttigieg, but if your right to something disappears as soon as you across a state line, do you really have that right? And I guess screw your fellow Americans, too bad you live in a red state?
Swear to God,... send her over, and anybody w/in 2Meters of her. It's also their fault for letting her form those words that made a partial sentence....
The entire country is like her. Montana voted to legalize abortion, and on the same ticket, they voted for the guy who's going to make it a federal crime and throw women and doctors in prison.
Glad @hcrichardson.bsky.social talked about this in today's Letter and how FOX & Sinclair and the RW media saturate many parts of the country so they don't hear facts or only get lies about it. It helps make sense of the disconnect between votes for Democratic policies but not candidates.
Worth noting that the current generation of 1st time voters is barely literate, most of them have never picked up a newspaper, and they research the issues by skimming the Google AI summary or going on TikTok. So…
My daughter goes to CU and called me crying this morning. Some male students were openly laughing and saying, "Let's go Project 2025!" "I was never going to vote for THAT dumb b!tch anyway!" FFS!!!!! I AM LIVID!!!! 🤬
Lol. Fucking moron. It’s why ASU is known as a party school and not an academics school. Hope she doesn’t need life saving healthcare in about 3 years.
And if for some reason, there is actually another election in four years, she would probably vote for him again because he said he didn’t really mean it after he did it.
An imbecil takes in consideration what Trump says and ignores what he does. This for a guy who spent the last almost 80 years lying. This genius is in for a cold shower.
Trump is a big reason why we're in this mess in the first place. It's sad, but Democrats really need to do a better job of reaching low-info voters. I'm talking a massive online partisan ecosystem.
That is actually rather funny. It's odd, and probably inappropriate, but when people are that stupid it seems to me to enter into the realm of absurdist comedy. "I vote for Republicans because I support women's right to make their own health care choices!" That's hilarious! What else do you do?
She's going to suffer as well. It's entirely possible that she will be getting care from a doctor who can't talk to her about certain things regarding her health.
I'm really bummed about the election, but I was hoping a Harris win would get us two SC judges who care about women back on the bench. Roe is gone for a very long time now. Her unwanted children will likely be feeling the effects of this. Assuming she doesn't die as you said, that is.
Wow, maybe critical thinking should be taught in college. In the future if she or one of her family / friends ends up bleeding out in a hospital due to a complication during pregnancy, which could be treated, I hope she remembers this decision.
She just cannot admit in front of camera that she voted for Trump because she is afraid to lose her white privileges so she pretends that abortion nonsense.
This is what happens when people don't know how to do basic research or don't have critical thinking skills.
Someone I met last night told me that she didn't like Harris because she called trump supporters racists. As far as I know, that did not happen. Maybe she called HIM a racist. Because he is
I never learned if she also liked Harris, who clearly wasn't planning on banning abortion? Having such a decidedly skewed basis for voting for Trump is clearly an absurd rationalization.
I hope someone gets back to this student to see what she thinks now. Just for our entertainment of course.
When you get this far out on the bad side of the Dunning-Kruger distribution, there’s no hope. The Aristotelian proofs fail, logic itself breaks down, and the fabric of spacetime strains from sheer stupidity.
Somewhere there’s a high school who awarded this person a diploma.
I both know why we can't actually do this, and yet agree with you it should exist.
But I want to be in the world where it's done right, like a genuine 'are you morally developed enough to wield this awesome power' exam done with care and nuance.
It wasn't pretty. And she couldn't leave, yea, I'm petty like that at the moment. She works at the store and we used to be neighbors, years ago... all she had to do was keep her mouth shut. She didn't...it ended with me calling her a Nazi *rhymes with hunt*🤣 It was satisfying.
I think we’ve all earned the right to some pettiness for a while. Seriously— WTF is up with their need to gloat??? Do they not realize they have nothing to gloat about anyway??? [rhetorical question— we all know they don’t]
...I may have mentioned her pregnant daughter in law and what I think should happen there. She was beet red by the time I called her a Nazi (h)unt. I was so hoping she would scream at me, but she didn't. 2/2😐🤣
Yep...she just had to mention that prices will come down soon...told her she was full of it and that I was looking forward to not seeing her working in the store anymore. She asked why and I told her that picking produce in the fields won't leave her enough time for a second job...1/
Because that's definitely the way to handle people's rights: we leave it up to the several states to determine which people can have and exercise which of their rights.
I mean, it's ALWAYS worked out so great and so smoothly in the past, right?
So that the states can do what, exactly? Before Trump it was legal in all states. The states can't make it more legal, they can only restrict or ban it from there.
I guess she didn't hear the many times Trump bragged about stacking the Supreme Court and taking credit for overturning Roe v Wade. She needs to stop getting her news from Twitter.
I literally could care less about these women who will lose their rights to control their body. Claiming stupid shit like this is on them. They voted for it
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The media controls the narrative, not the candidates.
"What's AP?"
Biden/Harris had to fight Trump + the media.
Can’t get more clear than that.
These are the 'apolitical' 'both sides are the same' people.
I mean this is COMMON SENSE SHIT. What, we need to draw it in crayon for COLLEGE students???
Turns out people are stupid and vile and no amount of facts or basic morals will change that.
“I’m a dumb sorority bitch and I don’t like the black lady.”
PULL!!!!
That's not the reason she voted for Trump.
There ought to have been better remediation efforts in place.
but you do have a reputation
he said to me, "do you have any idea how stupid you have to be to flunk out of ASU?"
(he's smart in other ways)
So many women are already dying...😑
they are not survivable.
I heard from a work-friend about how she'd tried for years to get pregnant, only to have the one "successful" try turn out to be ectopic. 😞
We were exchanging "what condition have you had which could now kill you" stories. Mine was a miscarriage.
Someone I met last night told me that she didn't like Harris because she called trump supporters racists. As far as I know, that did not happen. Maybe she called HIM a racist. Because he is
I hope someone gets back to this student to see what she thinks now. Just for our entertainment of course.
Somewhere there’s a high school who awarded this person a diploma.
But I want to be in the world where it's done right, like a genuine 'are you morally developed enough to wield this awesome power' exam done with care and nuance.
It's a nice dream
Yeah, I don’t think she nor any other GenZ Trump voters get that part.
If the voter's answer is factually incorrect, their ballot burns
What are we doing folks?
you can’t fix stupid!!!
I think we’ve all earned the right to some pettiness for a while. Seriously— WTF is up with their need to gloat??? Do they not realize they have nothing to gloat about anyway??? [rhetorical question— we all know they don’t]
#MAGASoStupid 🤔
I mean, it's ALWAYS worked out so great and so smoothly in the past, right?
Was that her safety school after the University of Phoenix?jfc
Is our children learning? Not the white ones.
Maybe not.
The fact remains that it was his SCOTUS picks that made the Dobbs ruling, just coincidentally while Biden was president.
They just don’t get that last crucial point.
The stove is hot and they still have to touch it. 🤷
That was good enough for her.
Of what... 😂🤣