I do not think that is an accurate statement. 30% saw it coming and voted against it. 30% saw it coming and voted for it. 40% saw it coming and said “meh”
It was a question.
And I'm not just talking about Trump
It's about Project 2025 and the huge amount of preparation that was obviously happening in the last few years
The speed and scope of changes
No such preparation in opposition though
That means something different to the Russians. The Nazis invaded the Soviet Union in WWII. They were fine with the Nazis before this. The only thing that they don't like about Nazis is that they attacked Russia. They refer to enemies of Russia as Nazis as a nostalgic appeal.
so repulsively utterly disgusting - a media race to get more attention doing the Nazi Salute. Jewish people were put into ovens still breathing in WW2 and now it's cool to be right wing in USA.
And WHERE is the ADL?? How debased does it have to get before they will say something? Exuberance my foot. They hate Jewish people, they are embracing a right wing, antisemitic global agenda, and crickets??
No one would have predicted that a South African and a fat American would be the ones to make Nazism mainstream again. It is a very sad world we live in now.
Mussolini’s Fascist Party adopted the Roman salute, claiming ties to ancient Rome, though no evidence supports its historical use. The Nazis later adapted it as the Sieg Heil salute. While similar, Mussolini never called the Nazi salute the "Roman salute"—the term was used within Italian Fascism.
This is a coordinated effort. Bannon's "The Movement," aims to unite & strengthen right-wing populist parties across US & Europe. Now, with Musk's control, the military and economic power of the U.S., & Project 2025’s blueprint for authoritarian control, the pieces are falling into place.
Feb. 20th, 1939 the Nazis tried the same shit in NYC while invoking the name of Geo Washington. As they said at the time "The Bund is open to you, provided you are sincere, of good character, of White Gentile Stock, and an American Citizen imbued with patriotic zeal. Therefore: Join!" Unbelievable.
This weekend elections in Germany, expected 20 % votes for AFD. a nazi orientated party. Nazism is stll alive in former East Germany and now reaching country wilde. I live in the Netherlands and we are scared.!!
It's the hating America and our Democracy that makes me mad. Some of them just figure their interests align. They don't know how dangerous and stupid that is.
There were more that were lesser known. It doesn't matter because none of them remain. They all either retired, lost primaries, or lost their seats during redistricting.
Yup. When i say “the liz Cheneys” and “Adam kinzengers” —it means those like them. Who didn’t remain in Congress bc they were either forced into retirement or were primaried, etc. same goes for senate—look what they did to Ben sasse & mitt romney.
Raskin is a real leader unlike any of the Republicans in Congress or the Senate, who put themselves before the constitution or the well being of America. Sad and embarrassing.
"We just need to people to just sorta give up and turn in their unlimited power and influence to support sanity and decency" yeahhhh I been reading a lot of news lately and I'm not gonna hold my breath
Jesus Christ, this will be the third time Dems have tried to impeach Donald Trump without enough votes in the Senate. If you're going to engage in political theater, at least pick something that the public will care about.
I very much know that! It's just after Musk saluted at the inauguration, some blamed his autism. I was being sarcastic but it doesn't always come thru on social media.
All of these salutes are meant to keep us distracted and focusing on them rather then us focusing on how we are going to save our selves from all of this madness...I turned my tv off !!
I believe Germans now call it a Hitler salute - which is also illegal there. More powerful and more shameful to a wider swath maybe? Whatever the reason they know this stuff best. We should look to them for guidance which on its face seems nuts. But here we are. Better sort it it out stat
They know what they're doing. Mostly for shock value. A loser like Bannon knows it will get him air time. But don't be mistaken, They are NAZI CADETS through and through. This has been a festering sore in this Nation for Decades and Decades. And it's what the Boss wants.
it was a little "fuck you" for liberals. enough to be obvious to the nazis he did it but benign enough if anyone points it out they can laugh at "the overreacting libtards" and claim he was just pointing.
My take is that it was a fck you, I can do a Nazi salute and there’s not a thing anyone can say about it
What he did there was confirm elons salute which he has always said was a sieg heil
They say jump - you keep insisting - how high? We are loosing this culture war maybe you have notished? Im from europe so spare me the lecture on fascism..
Ive heard 100 scholars give 100 different explanations what fascism is.
Then ive heard liberals calling god knows everybody the term until it has lost any meaning. It is at a level where these jokers can own the word mocking us all.
The U.S. faces political crisis, while Europe's democracies, with checks on power, strong welfare, and civic awareness, resist extremism. Unlike the U.S., they block figures like Trump and Musk from exploiting crises to push fascism.
And Bannon’s jealous that Elon gets to be Trump’s handler for Putin. Vlad has the perfect setup now, he doesn’t have to deal with stupid, smelly Donald, and he can be the boss of the OTHER “richest man”.
Nazism has always been portrayed as "evil foreigners threatening America," more than "white supremacy." The rejection to it has also been made much weaker by foreign policy considerations - mostly the cold war, but now the support for those "it's a slavic traditional tattoo" people in Ukraine.
During the cold war, jornalistic and academic texts were printed positing that nazism was a problem because it was a variant of "populism" or "totalitarism" (but no more so, or less so, than communism!), and not because of white supremacy and eugenics. Double holocaust was actively encouraged.
People talk about operation paperclip, but it wasn't just useful scientists that were recruited without any sort of denazification. Nazis were feted at the EU bureaucratic service. Nazi collaborators like Chrystia Freeland's grandfather were lynchpins of the effort to influence undermine the USSR.
Vcs não lutaram contra os nazistas, vcs inspiraram os nazistas! vcs apenas foram impedir que União Soviética libertasse a Europa do nazismo sozinha. Depois da guerra vcs defenderam e acolheram todos os nazistas em seus programas militares e na OTAN.
U.S. politics is problematic on many fronts. No arguments there. However, my grandfather quite literally did in fact fight Nazis. The post is about the people who fought in the war, not the U.S. government’s motive for being involved in the war. Like Russia, Americans live with pervasive propaganda.
Um soldado sem educação política revolucionária é um assassino remunerado
Os soldados estadunidenses que lutaram na guerra voltaram pra casa e construíram o país no qual hoje emerge o neonazismo
Matar alguém fardado de nazista em 1945 não torna NINGUÉM consciente do seu lugar na sociedade
Is your stance that all Americans and all soldiers are bad? I’m not sure what you are here to say? People all over the world fight in wars for their countries. Are you anti-war, anti-American or both? I’m not sure that this is a productive conversation if you are just here to bash Americans?
Não é questão de mau ou bem.
Você se manifestou perplexa com o nazismo ostensivo do seu governo hoje e para tanto fez uma correlação de contradição entre ter existido uma geração que esteve na 2ª Guerra e, mesmo assim, nazistas estarem na presidência dos EUA.
O ponto é: não contradição!
Interestingly it is the generation coming after the grand parents - 45 to 64. Even the women are split 50-50 in that bracket, as are men between 18 and 29.
My high school history teacher in circa 1981 said that the US would face fascism again once all the WWII vets have died. Your dad’s generation wouldn’t have allowed this bullshit…I mean fascism to have taken hold which may be why it’s happening now.
No. Not the exception. My WWII vet Dad became a lifelong member of the ACLU and, also from its inception, Common Cause.
He would never have dreamed of this all happening again, here at home.
The youngest guy on Omaha Beach on 6 June 1944 would today be 98.
That generation were the greatest at surviving depressions, the greatest at defeating Nazis, the greatest at building countries, but utterly shit at teaching their kids wrong and right.
They passed down racism and misogyny they learned from their parents and society before.
These were societal rules reinforced by every institution in this country since its inception.
When it’s the norm people don’t believe it’s wrong.
Can everyone calm down in the replies? I’m not personally calling your grandparents/great grandparents terrible people. I’m literally stating what polls and votes have LITERALLY SHOWN.
Your facts are not factual. There are only a tiny handful of WW2 gen left. And those few are VERY old. MY parents were (I'll be 64 soon), & they died decades ago. And I damn well guarantee The Greatest Generation would have NEVER! Their kids, maybe. But it's their grandkids behind this horror.
the people who fought the Nazis were born in the 1919s & 1920s. the vast majority of them aren't voting for anyone. you're probably talking about their white boomer kids.
My FIL will brag to the end of time how much his father hated Nazis and fought against them with everything he had. He also is severely incapable of processing reality in regards to his love of Trump. Just completely 🙊🙉🙈
He’s probably thinking of boomers. And yes, he’s right. Boomers have largely reaped the benefits of the post war economy and social programs only to gut and take away the very benefits that helped them lead a prosperous life. Not all boomers of course, but enough to screw us.
A Hitler salute
Is a Hitler salute
Is a Hitler salute
It’s not complicated. Anyone who stretches his right arm with palm down and hand/fingers tightly pointed up on a political stage during a political speech in front of an extreme right-wing audience, makes the Hitler salute.
difference is - Bannon is mad musk is stealing some of what he thinks should be his thunder. as as previously noted, trump will return a musk call before a Bannon call. so now the boy has to try to prove he has any relevance left.
Doesn’t he realize saying “fight fight fight” just makes me think, hey, maybe we should fight fight fight this monster while our allies still have hope for us! I don’t want to pay for a war AGAINST NATO!!!!!
The more vulgar,uncouth,aggressive these fascist scumbags are the louder these right wing morons cheer. Do they have any knowledge of history,do they not see their leaders and spokespeople acting as dictators? Study,learn & dismiss these traitors.
Sadly, no, they have no knowledge. I am also thinking (as a non-American) that these 100% correct messages need to be dumbed down: can’t call these fascists fascists because the MAGA masses won’t understand. They might understand Nazi, but better yet “communist”. Totally wrong, but might get through
That could be good - I don’t know, but it would grab their attention. Upside-down-world seems to be their thing? Everyday is Opposite Day and Zelenskyy is a dictator and Putin is an okay guy. (The last one thankfully seems to be too much for most of them.)
They do know though. The US went to WW2, they'll know it, they can deny it but that's what the Nazis did too, pretend they did not know what they were doing, gas lighting today as it was 80 years ago was always their best defense.
Well unfortunately the fat nasty b@$tard isn't going back to prison because Alvin Bragg cut him a sweetheart deal. Yet they claim there is no such thing as white privilege🤬.
We will not let these slime Nazis take over the Country and let down our Grandfathers or Fathers who fought for Truth , Democracy and Freedom in WW 2. As well as bowing down to the takeover by the War Criminal Putin with his toy PresidentTrump.
Time for everyone to get on the streets, mate. Mass civil disobedience.
None of that Jan6th nonsense - just being a pain in the arse for every representative (especially the Republicans), blocking streets, sabotaging shit.
I would guess many of them don’t really know what the Nazis did. Same people who fly the rebel rally flag without thinking why you can’t love both the American flag and the Confederate rally flag.
Why can’t you believe it? It’s been coming for at least a decade. Getting rid of DEI? Just like Nazis elevating the Aryan race, and eliminating the others.
I wouldn't buy his book for anything! To think that he was among our greatest hopes for the future. Weak and self-gratifying sums up most of our elected "leaders".
Our Dem leaders are seriously failing us. The corporate Dems are still more worried about fucking norms. Jeffries and Schumer need to step aside and let someone with balls and guts take us forward.
We have become Germany of 1939. Although the salute is shocking, combining that with fascism, desire to put immigrants in camps and the talk of territorial expansion makes this moment very disturbing. It’s almost like they are copying Hitlers playbook.
Gosh, I really wish that these Nazis can REALLY see how they LOOK in the mirror 👀 as it sure will help them realize that they sure DON’T appear to be the SUPERIOR race! 🙄🙄🙄
They’ve been running this playbook for 10 y now. First, they do something outrageous and dismiss it as a joke. This shifts the Overton window and normalizes it. Then the MAGA masses embrace it defiantly, defending it against the backlash. It’s exhausting, and liberals still have no counterstrategy.
We are always preaching to the choir, messaging truth of the illegal coup happening right now to each other, but it’s the magas who need to see these messages. We need to flood their social media the way ours was flooded with maga lies. All the charts, graphs, statistics, all the truth.
Well said. And for people like us who can see though all this it can be very disheartening. Reminds of this bible verse I’ve heard. Ecclesiastes 1:18: “For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.” Might not be an exact quote. Not sure.
But it also makes me think of Rudyard Kipling’s If. Particularly this line: “If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you.”
im SO FUCKING SICK of "they were just JOKING bro! you liberals need to learn how to take a joke!" right up until they stop joking and now its too late.
Plausible deniability. Even when Musk did it twice with his full chest, it was questioned. We all know what it was and so do the people questioning it.
"Just over half of U.S. adults (54%) say they have an unfavorable view of Musk, including 36% who have a very unfavorable opinion of him. About four-in-ten (42%) express a favorable view, including 11% who are very favorable, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted Jan. 27-Feb. 2, 2025."
Because the original “America First” was part of the original Nazi movement. We’ve had Nazis in The U.S since the beginning. They have always been part of the Republican Party
A sieg heil with very little conviction behind it. Like he was going to be able to take it back if it didn't work out for him. A nazi without the courage of his vile repugnant convictions.
Not sure why Americans are so surprised. This was always legal in USA to spread hatred and support genocide with all the mumbo jumbo about free speech.
Yeah, but if you ban the symbols of hate the hateful will just find other symbols. It's not like banning the swastika in Germany means there aren't any neo-nazis there.
Then came social media. These guys weren't successful. They didn't have more than a few guys in a garage. They didn't have the president holding them up.
Now they have it all. Shame on America for allowing this.
The US is a kleptocratic Kakistocracy on it's way to becoming the greatest failed state in the history of humankind. Stop pointing out what they did or how bad they are. This is a useless endeavour & fool's game. Let's stop fucking around and start openly talk about what we're going to do about it.
Same. I am involved at the constituency level. Organizing communities and workplaces. The punditry should stop with the pearl clutching and start calling people out directly and more importantly talking about the Nuremburg style trials that should take place once they're defeated.
Voluntary Organizations. This is an important mechanism when you need to mobilize people to vote. At the very least through these organizations we can register people to vote. http://www.beyondelections.com/
I'm stocking up on food, medical supplies, and precious metals. When the time comes I'm ready to test their commitment to dear leader I've signed on the line to volunteer my life once for what I thought this country stood for I am still willing to die to defend those ideas
Serious question. Have these people not watched “The Holocaust” or do they know nothing about that they are celebrating? I mean, what possible legitimate reason could they have for toying with this? It can’t be just Jewish people this time.
[1] The Holocaust's focus on jewish people was more or less under the lens of hating them for being immigrants. Reps HAVE their immigrant enemy, so they don't "have" to target jewish people (though jewish folks are still lumped in and targeted pretty often with all of this blind hate). And-
[2] - the Holocaust wasn't targeting JUST jewish people. It was to target anyone not fitting with the description of the "ideal human." Trans folks were a huge target (familiar?), POC, the disabled. Pretty much anyone that wasn't befitting of their wack ass ideology. It's pathetic and deplorable :[
Steve Bannon: credited with honing Trump's political messaging rooted in White grievance, arch-nationalism and populist outage, reflecting his time at Breitbart. On a cover of Time Magazine as “The Great Manipulator.”. He called Musk a "parasitic illegal immigrant"
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Call your REPS AND THE SENATE
202-224-3121
Remind the Scared Lying Sacks of Shit.
If they think ELON will primary them.
Just wait until AMERICA VOTERS
get done with them.
Weird You. tube didn't want me to post this innocuous weird truth.
WE are being suppressed folks.
STOP THEM NOW
Oddly, weeks ago, there was supposedly a feud between Bannon & Musk, mostly about neither one wanting the other to be in close proximity of DJT, inside Whitehouse.
Himmler had the head of the Brownshirts killed and it didn't slow the Nazi's down one goose-step. There's a feud, but that's their shit. From outside Bannon and Musk are both just the enemy.
There are swaths of maga that are willfully soaking the gaslighting up. The Face Eating Leopards Party somehow keeps surprising people by doing exactly what they said they were gonna do.
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Change him?
Another clone ...
They have this stitched up and "noone saw this coming"??
FFS
And I'm not just talking about Trump
It's about Project 2025 and the huge amount of preparation that was obviously happening in the last few years
The speed and scope of changes
No such preparation in opposition though
A foul cesspool of a nazi fascist heart.
Same gaslighting then as now. ‘Don’t be SILLY. It’s not what it looks exactly like.’
Mid-speech physical therapy is perfectly normal...🙄
Hunt Hunt Hunt
That's it.
Religion has been hijacked by terrorists, extremists & old sexually deviant men
Org. Religion has been used for WAR , control & manipulation for thousands of years.
Get #WOKE to FACTS
#FactsMatter
It's just like it's told in The Lord of the rings.
We must march, boycott, walk out, strike, and make noise until we cannot be ignored any longer.
11 million Americans, taking to the streets. #11Mstrong
Gas him
And AMEN!? WTF is that?
What he did there was confirm elons salute which he has always said was a sieg heil
Don't let yourself be convinced that it's some attempt at right wing humour.
They ARE fascists and Nazis. When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Watering it down helps their cause.
Ok, you water down their fascism and I'll pretend that ok, if it soothes your ego.
Haven't looked at your bio, but already know you're probably a Brit.
Then ive heard liberals calling god knows everybody the term until it has lost any meaning. It is at a level where these jokers can own the word mocking us all.
I dont think you understand
(Mary Trump Sr.)
Leopards eat other leopards' faces, too.
I hate this timeline.
Hitler got inspired by USA/KKK & SA/Apartheid, not the other way around.
The only picture in Adolf's room was one of Henry Ford.
Side-note: Musk-family migrated to SA when Apartheid started, immediately left when it ended.
My point is, it is still fresh. The only people who could forget are those who really wanted to. So they could bring it back.
Os soldados estadunidenses que lutaram na guerra voltaram pra casa e construíram o país no qual hoje emerge o neonazismo
Matar alguém fardado de nazista em 1945 não torna NINGUÉM consciente do seu lugar na sociedade
Você se manifestou perplexa com o nazismo ostensivo do seu governo hoje e para tanto fez uma correlação de contradição entre ter existido uma geração que esteve na 2ª Guerra e, mesmo assim, nazistas estarem na presidência dos EUA.
O ponto é: não contradição!
You fucking happy now???
I'm a boomer, daughter of a guy who fought actual Nazis.
He killed a few of them.
If he were alive, he would NEVER have voted for that POS.
My father for over 30.
There's lots of boomers still living.
I'm glad he didn't live to see this shit.
I'm ashamed of this time and of being an American.
He would never have dreamed of this all happening again, here at home.
Especially in the country they fought to keep from becoming what it is now doing.
Utterly heartbroken.
The youngest guy on Omaha Beach on 6 June 1944 would today be 98.
That generation were the greatest at surviving depressions, the greatest at defeating Nazis, the greatest at building countries, but utterly shit at teaching their kids wrong and right.
I guess they were busy.
These were societal rules reinforced by every institution in this country since its inception.
When it’s the norm people don’t believe it’s wrong.
Different generation.
Is a Hitler salute
Is a Hitler salute
It’s not complicated. Anyone who stretches his right arm with palm down and hand/fingers tightly pointed up on a political stage during a political speech in front of an extreme right-wing audience, makes the Hitler salute.
he saves so much money not using soap.
None of that Jan6th nonsense - just being a pain in the arse for every representative (especially the Republicans), blocking streets, sabotaging shit.
So the split between him and musk is BS
Pls donate Viagra
Believe them when they say who they are
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Bannon coined the phrase 'fill the zone with shit' and this is just another example of the technique. It's prestidigitation. 'Watch my hand'.
#resist
#fucktrump
He’s repulsive.
BUT… what IS needed is someone on the Dem side with that kind of determination. Motivation. Just… FOR GOOD, not Nazi evil shit.
Pete, Jasmine, Raskin and AOC are doing the best at that so far… and if we think it’s hard to push back now, it ain’t gonna get any easier.😖
Want proof?
Diapers, maxipads on the ears, maga hats, antimask.
And when they say it means MHGOTY look them right in the eye and say "Really???"
Deep down ppl know it's a n@zi salute. We should call them out on it.
Like you said, show them evidence.
Don’t know how they can improve it
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you.”
Salute away. You're going to get stabbed in the back as you stab someone else in the back
But only almost.
Now they have it all. Shame on America for allowing this.
They've come a long way from mimeographed ranting newsletters with hand-drawn swastikas and cheap-beer parties. It's an unholy network now.
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202-224-3121
Remind the Scared Lying Sacks of Shit.
If they think ELON will primary them.
Just wait until AMERICA VOTERS
get done with them.
Weird You. tube didn't want me to post this innocuous weird truth.
WE are being suppressed folks.
STOP THEM NOW
With love from Europe.
#withlovefromeurope
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So do J6'ers, 3%'ers & PB's.
Oddly, weeks ago, there was supposedly a feud between Bannon & Musk, mostly about neither one wanting the other to be in close proximity of DJT, inside Whitehouse.
There are are more Nazis in America than 1930s America rn.