I’m sorry I just saw that Kristof headline about “working class pain” and I want to scream like why do we keep having to remind these guys that Black and brown people are more likely to be working class and still don’t support fascism
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Every single demographic they’re throwing under the bus with the term “identity politics” is more likely to be poor or working class than white cis men, but for some reason that’s the only kind of working class that matters. Same thing happened in 2016.
I’m sorry I just saw that Kristof headline about “working class pain” and I want to scream like why do we keep having to remind these guys that Black and brown people are more likely to be working class and still don’t support fascism
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But some of them just voted FOR supporting fascism.
Democrats are in touch with the issues of income inequality and lack of opportunity and frustrations of the working class and have taken actions to address those issues--but many white people assume that Dems don't represent white people.
It goes back to what I said it’s not that people voted against democracy we lost the information war, and this is what every dictator hopes for. Jeff Bezos and other media execs kissing Trumps ass proves my point
It just also privileges a lie about our actual economic state and excuses the state of media and scale of misinformation / manipulation in all the info Americans consume
As Bishop William Barber states--there are poor people of ALL Races;
And Low Wage workers come in ALL backgrounds & circumstances--
Dems overwhelmingly support what poor people & the Low Wage Working Poor needs
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Do they even address the reality that Democratic policies are in general better for the working class, but the white working class keeps voting majority Republican while claiming it’s for economic reasons? I look at that and think…
Ya, very tired of stupid meaningless buzzwords. No one is more elite than a violent fraud criminal traitor president-elect and his criminal billionaire gang who continue to openly crime without consequences.
You’re correct, but whites’ economic pain & endless fears are new 4 them. Our failure to talk simply is partly why we lose.They understand the world as a finite pie to be fought over. How do we sell our ideas to them? They get Trump. We need elem teachers developing sound bites.
Most of the pundits have been pointing fingers and laying blame, rather than admitting what the problem is. America is a racist, sexist, xenophobic, celebrity-worshipping country.
He's so wrong. Makes me want to scream, too. It wasn't "pain", it was ignorance. Willful ignorance on the part of Americans who, instead of getting facts from reliable sources, ingest propaganda from social media, friends, family, and Fox. They voted for things even they don't want.
Increasingly they do. It's a little late to still be doing the "white women voted for Trump" argument when he gains across all geographies and demographics
It's totally a real thing, but it's soooo easy to bait and switch that into things like
we just really needed to do Jan 6/ shoot protestors/ told racist sexist jokes all day at rallies/ WE WERE JUST HAVING A MOMENT DON'T CRITICIZE US DON'T HURT OUR FEELINGS...
The working class people I have talked to who voted for Trump because he thought life would get economically better for them did so based on either disinformation or intentional ignorance.
I also keep coming back to “Biden did a lot for unions, and Harris was promising all kinds of help for lower income people and fighting price gouging corporations, and it didn’t matter to all these people saying they were voting for ‘the economy’”
“Working class” has always been a dog whistle just like “blue collar” and “non-college-educated.” They always add up to “non-college-educated, straight, white men,” which seems to be the only demographic that matters and also the one demographic who voted to cut off their nose to spite their face.
‼️I was having the same reaction, like, saying this is solely about ~economic anxiety~ continues to totally ignore the *even more economically precarious people* who overwhelmingly voted against Trump! Gah!
Reminds me of all the people trying to explain mass shooters in ways that overlook how somehow women and minorities manage not to go that route even when facing the same issues
Gosh I wonder what kind of jobs most Black and Latina women in America are doing? I guess we’ll never know despite all the date about the gender and racial pay gap and the face of low wage labor because these guys can’t talk about class in any kind of sophisticated way.
I'll have to scroll a while to find those exit poll cross tabs again, but it sure seemed like 1. whiteness above all else, 2. men, and 3. Christian were the most salient markers for Trump support. Kristof styles himself as a sensitive guy. It shouldn't be so hard to see what's up.
They're a group of people with a common attribute that used to give them a bump in power, influence and income, and they are losing that (relative to the people they once looked down on). People in that situation often turn to authoritarianism.
Gains for non whites aren't losses for whites. They perceive it that way in part because many of them are racist and because they are conditioned by the right.
Then don't look at David Brooks' column about the "elites." Funny how all these white guys think "working class" is synonymous with "other white guys."
//report commissioned by a labor-backed group is examining a problem many Democrats might rather ignore: exodus of working-class voters from the party they used to call home. R's under former President Trump have been making inroads in the working class, including among Black and Hispanic voters//
I have cut Nytimes totally out of my life and I am better for it. Is it better to know what is being said? Probably. But most stuff is just passive-aggressive bothsiderism. I'm good without it.
Also young women. Young women in service and light industry jobs are a huge part of the working class, they come in all colors, and most of them understand the connection between reproductive rights and their own economic situation.
Same. I live in a rural small town in Pa. The Trump signs are at the nice houses & farms with property. The Harris Walz signs are in “town” in row houses and little apartments.
I noticed this as well in Pa. Now I'm fearing my neighbors may be mostly trumpers, though didn't see any signs 4 either candidate; I live on a no outlet road of 12 houses w 3+ acres. Would hate to be the blue dot in sea of red..ugh.
So the only thing I would caution about this is that Latinos, like other groups, aren't all the same voting bloc. I had a conversation with someone originally from Central America. She said her Puerto Rican neighbor supported Trump because of abortion. (She is also Catholic and supported Harris.)
The thing that always surprises me about Republican loathing of immigrant Latinos is many of them come from heavily Catholic countries, and if R's weren't constantly refusing them citizenship, they'd have owned SCOTUS long before now just based on abortion.
I agree with you that definitions of the working class that don’t include intersectionality are either bad thinking or bad faith, but I think voter apathy and decreased turnout are the primary risks associated with not addressing the concerns of working class people of color, not support for fascism
Apparently in the eyes of people like Kristof, being black or brown is like being a dwarf or elf in the original D&D — it’s both your race and profession.
There is a really valuable and smart critique to be made about the need for class solidarities and political organizing that includes having a power analysis that none of these pundits who think only racist white people are the real working class have
Or the take that Dems lost because of too much identity politics and thrall to "elites" when the richest people on the planet literally bought and paid for the winner, who campaigned literally on the basis of attacking people for their identities.
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Frankly, white people can fck all the way off.
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But some of them just voted FOR supporting fascism.
Pundits really don’t know. They reproduce content from the past over and over.
And Low Wage workers come in ALL backgrounds & circumstances--
Dems overwhelmingly support what poor people & the Low Wage Working Poor needs
💙💥💙
we just really needed to do Jan 6/ shoot protestors/ told racist sexist jokes all day at rallies/ WE WERE JUST HAVING A MOMENT DON'T CRITICIZE US DON'T HURT OUR FEELINGS...
you stupid SNOWFLAKES!!!
the deep underlying ideology is about white people being the only legitimate citizens and thus the only group that has legitimate politics.
Cuban and Do American immigrants fled fascist authoritarians and voted them in here. Bc “socialism” will take your wealth.
Lots of real estate owners and car dealerships
this plays into the divide the working class so the rich elites can conquer thing that's been going on for almost 50 years now.
What the fascists claim: "Dems want to control everything you think and say"