I don't see how the US can win a trade war against China - in any scenario.
China isn't a democracy - there's no opposition, and it produces far more of what America needs than anything Chinese import from the USA.
Their biggest import is soy beans... presumably can get elsewhere
China isn't a democracy - there's no opposition, and it produces far more of what America needs than anything Chinese import from the USA.
Their biggest import is soy beans... presumably can get elsewhere
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One the things he doesn't understand is we need China much more than China needs us.
I had thought that if the Americans get their supply of cheap goods cut off, there are a lot of of them, they are quite outspoken, and they have guns
So I would think martial law..
The Chinese have complete control of everything, including their population
I think you’re right
Authoritarian systems are fragile.
Certainly the ageing population
I think the timescale might be relevant. Can China keep a poker face longer than the American consumer can cope with high prices? Because the prices will be quick to rise. At 104% there will be quite a shock too
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To paraphrase Trump, he's holding deuces and he thinks they're aces.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/961087/global-leading-exporters-of-soybeans-export-share/
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-braces-more-chinese-demand-higher-food-prices-amid-us-trade-war-2025-03-06/
Plus…the average wage is about .25 what it is in the USA
From the midwest. You wanna know what happened last time, and what's gonna happen again?
Mountains of rotten grain and beans surrounding elevators, can/will smell it for miles before you see it.
Red hat in hand, welfare hand outstretched, farmers will get bailed out, again, for stupidity.
https://www.commisceo-global.com/blog/mianzi-the-concept-of-face-in-chinese-culture
WeRE hOLdiNg alL tHe cARds.
Ditto
No elections, no domestic opposition to speak of and a much stronger ability to ignore any grievances or hardships of its populace.
Trump doesn’t have enough time to make this work, even if it ever could.
I think the Orange One is about to learn a very hard lesson indeed
Casinos
Steak
Airline
University
Vodka
Water
Boardgames.
There’s more, but you get the idea.
I just remind myself that johnson and the lettuce went quickly, hope the same here but what lurks as a replacement looks worse.
he truly is an idiot
American peasants has a nice ring to it, right?
He's counting on that even with China, but I agree he's ridiculous for doing so.
He thinks it will be us bc he and his buddies have money. He dngaf that trickle down economics are not a thing and that average Americans will be hurt.
He's counting on everywhere not being able to NOT trade with us. I think he will be disappointed to learn how the real world works.
How many systems could they just shut down?
Or our communications systems.
Or our cars?
Unlike those in the USA
The only way I can see out of this entire mess is Impeachment.
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/04/04/commission-watching-for-chinese-steel-and-electronics-imports-amid-trade-war
threat?DT, his docile doormats
(excluding krasnob's boss russia, of course which is probably expected a negative tarrif rate)
He doesn’t understand, he refuses to understand.
He refuses to learn anything.
He believes himself to be the world authority on life, the universe and everything.
In the real world, he is idiot.
Painted in Ronseal.
When you realise there seem to be ‘Made in China’ tags on most of the non-food stuff that we’re buying currently, it seems unlikely that they will surrender in any trade war.
Plus they’re a whole lot smarter than Trump.
With no allies
The slightest rebellion will be met with violence. The end game for trump is can he get the US military to kill other Americans for protest and descent.
He's a fucking dementia-addled moron who honestly believes everyone in the world must bend to his will.
Shame Canada doesn’t make smartphones.
Can’t wait to watch the US deal with what the lunatic dic(tator) does next
They do not need our products. We don't have the leverage he thinks we do.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/s/Fym8fevcyD
America needs China a lot more than China needs America
Even if China was to be hurt by the tariffs, the nature of its economy means that they can deal with it so much more easily than the USA can.
And they knew that - they had their strategy planned a while back
BBC article picks up on this this morning
There is no pushback in a dictatorship.
What are they exporting to the US which matters so much to them?
Where are his cult rallying behind these tariffs? I don’t see them showing up
With signs supporting him.
He thinks the world need to buy American goods
Not true
there is enough manufacturing capacity in the world to take over US exports
and Trump is pissing people off enough they might actually get together and do it
But then some geriatric tater decides that “trade deficits” are “bad” and tries to act on his own misperception by CRATERING THE ECONOMY.
Convince me that Putin isn’t behind this…
The bad thing is Brazil will AGAIN cut down more rain forest to increase production.
The man’s a buffoon. And an oaf. I’m staggered by his characterisation of especially poor countries like Vietnam seeking to negotiate as “coming to kiss my ass”.
https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/soybeans/reporter/chn
China Just Turned Off U.S. Supplies Of Minerals Critical For Defense & Cleantech
https://cleantechnica.com/2025/04/05/china-just-turned-off-u-s-supplies-of-minerals-critical-for-defense-cleantech/
So I think that's a yes.
Well, chickens, home, roost!
But honeslty, everyone knows Chinese "goods" simply aren't. Cheap and breakable. Thanks to all the "Whitfields" of the world.
BTW, anti climactic ending to "1923", after all the teasing and tears
Just like Canada
How is he going to save his big bloated ugly large pore white around the eyes and thin liver lips face?
Trump is a moron.
A lot of military equipment relies on parts from China
(I was admittedly young in 1991 but old enough to remember it).
We were told we had more training than WW2 infantrymen and were on standby for deployment
Then we spent a week in the field in a communication blackout for us
It came out of grease and wrapping paper and malfunctioned from day one
I had to run ahead of the platoon every range session and have a part changed to try to remedy the situation and run to catch up
I remember being told yay Lech Walesa & yay Solidarnosc (& yay Pope John Paul bc he had smth to do with it).
It would be terrifying to be on high alert on the brink of nuclear war.
(We did live in a military town when the PNIs were signed and we did hide under desks).
Once a year without fail they had to run a drill
They also gave a credit for going to the police range once a week to learn how to shoot and firearm safety
The 70s were lit
Running around with .22 rifles in the back seat and DND ammo
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https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/china-retaliation-us-farm-goods-hits-soybeans-bolstering-brazil-2025-04-04/
Cotton used in goods such as clothing and bedding that have tariffs when the products return.
Check your clothing labels. How many are made in China?
Not a chance, Chinese Citizens are accustomed to adversity, austerity and accommodating entreaties to persevere.
American Citizens, on the other hand, go berserk when Starbucks plans to cut menu items.
Xi Jinping knows this!
A few hundred years of the US created a loose shallow group who place self above others.
Founded on paper rather than millennia of bloody history.
Blink & they will be gone.
Trump blinked.
China plays the long game.
from president bone spurs
https://bsky.app/profile/chadbourn.bsky.social/post/3lmkqc57ivs2e
I don’t know what it will take for the citizens to see that but… truth.
Sorry🇨🇦
President Xi doesn't need permission from anyone in China to do whatever he'll do. He has way more power in China than Trump has in America.
China holds $Trillions in US Treasury Bonds.
I was going to say "or hurt", but Trump doesn't care how many people he hurts.
Stock market investment in the end is just gambling, and the table is rigged in Trump Casino NYSE.
Trump is killing investment in America.
So there is plenty of scope for China to go elsewhere
Also see - # of acres in the rainforest Brazil had to decimate in order to rapidly increase production.
Seriously though, the Chinese seriously underestimate the value/leverage of the US keeping global sea lanes open (especially SE Asia to Europe via the Red Sea.) That could disappear fast. Then China can't export and the land-based belt & road can't make up for it.
But you know that, don't you.
I would prefer STV and I voted for AV, but I also acknowledge that the democratic decision of the electorate was to retain FPTP