it is really notable the extent to which state Dems have been significantly better than federal Dems at telling Trump to go fuck himself - ThreadSky | a Reddit-style client for Bluesky

rincewind.run • 125 days ago

it is really notable the extent to which state Dems have been significantly better than federal Dems at telling Trump to go fuck himself

Reposted from Acyn

Gov. Mills: I’ll comply with the state and federal laws

Trump: We are the federal law. You better do it because you’re not going to get any federal funds.

Gov Mills: See you in court

Comments

beckya.bsky.social•123 days ago

Different roles. Making deals is in most Dem congresspersons’ DNA. Governors are executives and get judged on how things go in their states.

craigmsmith.bsky.social•125 days ago

Agreed. On the other hand, there's Polis there, ready to Fetterman things up at a moment's notice

crazycatladyabroad.bsky.social•124 days ago

I also think there may be an age element here. Most of the DC leadership has been eligible for retirement for a generation, and it shows.

arrogantmonkey.bsky.social•125 days ago

Yeah they have actual executive powers

rich-king.bsky.social•125 days ago

And more often than not, it’s women who are standing up.

forevernever.bsky.social•125 days ago

Federalism, baby!

dissentinator.bsky.social•124 days ago

Dredd!!!

roningoalie.bsky.social•125 days ago

Did anyone notice his choice to use the “We” pronoun?

anxioustortoise.bsky.social•125 days ago

He doesn't deserve that "royal we" usage. Fml

sashiebgood.bsky.social•125 days ago

He always does that. He never says "I"

krlelebr.bsky.social•125 days ago

Notice the threat at the end?

jdniemand.bsky.social•125 days ago

even Hochul. fucking Hochul, man. embarrassing

mbrzz.bsky.social•125 days ago

whats even more embarrassing is hochul is doing MORE than murphy. literally how is hochul the /slightly/ better one here lmfao

fredfine.bsky.social•125 days ago

Less buy in or what have you to the ‘game’?

fredfine.bsky.social•125 days ago

Rich and/or powerful enough that they’re really not going to feel significant effects.

mickeyfoon.bsky.social•124 days ago

This is the energy we need.

tecno.bsky.social•124 days ago

trump really does believe that he's a mob boss!

thewettanktops.bsky.social•125 days ago

What has or can Trump tell congressional Dems to do where they can stand up and say “go fuck yourself”?

State power creates these sort of standoffs that are just few and far between when you’re the smaller number caucus

citizene.bsky.social•125 days ago

Don’t worry, Dick Durbin is working up a really sternly worded letter.

hollyphantpants.bsky.social•125 days ago

I wonder if this is because they aren't working in the place where Trump tried to have them killed.

extra-jon.bsky.social•125 days ago

Then gtfo, they're trying to kill US! Give us people who are prepared to go to PHYSICAL blows instead of puffing smoke up our asses.

hollyphantpants.bsky.social•125 days ago

AOC isn't much of a boxer but she has constant death threats and it does not make her give up.

rosaluxlux.bsky.social•125 days ago

Gretchen Whitmer isn't backing down and they tried to kidnap her.

friendpanda.bsky.social•125 days ago

For the millionth time I wish Ann Richards were still alive. She’d have chewed him up and spit him out.

I’m a little concerned that my state’s governor, who is a Democrat, was praised by Trump recently. Like….Josh, whatcha doing there?

browwiw.bsky.social•125 days ago

I'm not a small gov't wacko, but there is something to be said for hierarchies made intentionally low enough that they tip of the pyramid never loses the sight of its base.

emdashel.bzky.team•125 days ago

Guess the R’s were right, we have to let things go back to the States.

cataribartok.bsky.social•124 days ago

it's not so much that they were right as they worked for decades to make it inevitable

mawwyon.bsky.social•124 days ago

Funny how were getting the the same conclusion right now in France. Working on our mayors before the far right sway them and their power. The more upstream the stronger. Towards decentralisation. We can do it!

cause.bsky.social•124 days ago

What do you expect the most powerful and influential leaders in the party to do? They've got donors to butter up.

twibar.bsky.social•124 days ago

I would be incredibly surprised if we don't see a Democratic primary that is majority governors. Whitmer, Pritzker, and Newsom all seem to be staging themselves for a run.

aje.bsky.social•125 days ago

Federal Dems, not withstanding some notable ones, are giving the Democratic Party brand a bad name. They are feckless.

crabjuice.bsky.social•124 days ago

Governors are in an executive position with direct control and/or major influence over resources that reps and sens simply don't have. They have far more leverage and methods of action.

crabjuice.bsky.social•124 days ago

Also, at the state level dems may not be the minority party, so again, that will lead to different behavior and actions that can be taken.

pcollirigger.bsky.social•125 days ago

Dems in Congress (with a couple of exceptions) are misreading the room.

wingedhussar.bsky.social•125 days ago

I don't suppose it'll happen, but I'd really love a "fuck you I won't do what you tell me" response to this nonsense. Pithier than I'll see you in court.

mbrzz.bsky.social•125 days ago

watching my state ag sue trump while our governor asks him for more is giving me whiplash

borntoeatbacon.com•125 days ago

I am disgusted by the entire federal government.

ikacprzak.bsky.social•125 days ago

State dems should be taking over

rob1946.bsky.social•125 days ago

They have a little more of a firewall.

grumpycarpenter.bsky.social•125 days ago

My home state of Maine has had the same kind of middle of the road centrist legislators and executives, whether Dem, GOP, or Independent, since the 60s. That Janet Mills is now the voice of the "resistance" to the Trump Imperium indicates how far to the right our politics has gone.

britculpsapp.bsky.social•125 days ago

honestly though

jonberry555.bsky.social•125 days ago

I suspect its because they are more connected to the People being in their states rather than in DC

dafrgama.bsky.social•124 days ago

it’s pretty weird to think about how much of a massive story this interaction would be if it were any other president. like obvs we get reminders of it all the time but shit like this really does bring home how much he’s completely broken political reporting (along w/ everything else)

skittishprey.bsky.social•123 days ago

power corrupts etc

goldenslowpoke.bsky.social•125 days ago

Unironically I think it may be because they have actual state pride whereas most DC Dems have lived in DC so long they only ever return home for campaign events if at all.

jimmytwohands.bsky.social•125 days ago

Even hochul told him to get bent, which is unbelievable

indagare.bsky.social•125 days ago

I keep wondering how the fedDems feel safe to just do nothing when people are screaming for them to do something. I mean, are they not expecting primaries or do they think they can just breeze through with no competition or what?

epee.cc•125 days ago

As some of them have noted personally, Capitol Hill is a very big bubble that isolates the people in it from the rest of the country. They don't talk one on one with "real" people very often, and when they do its not as peers but as constituents
/ subjects.

extra-jon.bsky.social•125 days ago

They know that elections are money games (which they LOVE). As long as they don't upset their rich donors, they know they will win 9 times out of 10.

angeloftheozarks.bsky.social•124 days ago

The Governors. They've been doing the work.

sensualkazoo.bsky.social•125 days ago

Makes sense. Congress has been wildly dysfunctional for most of my lifetime. Stuff actually happens at the state level still.

noblenaga.bsky.social•123 days ago

You and these types complaining about Dems are only off by one exponent: "I mean, they said "go fuck yourself" in pre-coup language, yes. Saying, "We'll see you in court." used to be brave and defiant, but when the president owns the courts it's not saying much."

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1iuyw7m/comment/me1ijgl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

falconmontgomery.bsky.social•125 days ago

We genuinely need to primary all of the legacy Democrats. They do not have the will to resist fascism, and they sure as hell don't have the will to rebuild or fix this shit. If they hang around they're just gonna tread water and sleep walk the US into an even worse situation than this.

shadenightingale.bsky.social•123 days ago

DC, man. They live in their own little bubble up there. State Dems are more answerable to their constituency, so they have more reason to take stands.

tidypony.bsky.social•125 days ago

This is not Mills' first rodeo.
She was Maine's Attorney General for eight years, chosen by a majority Dem legislature, and went head-to-head with the proto-Felon, GOP Gov. Paul LePage.

n.b. LePage won two terms w/ 30-something percent of the vote thanks to a moronic third party run.
#MaineKnows

xanthicirs.bsky.social•124 days ago

That's pretty cool. I wish Gavin Newsom was that cool.

rollforsanity.bsky.social•125 days ago

Indiana used a chunk of their budget on socks with gloves attached, to make it easier and more comfortable to bend over

epicciuto.bsky.social•125 days ago

It’s interesting, because you think it would be easier for him to take revenge on a state receiving funds directly rather than through a federal budget.

cuddlessmash.bsky.social•125 days ago

Newsom has been concerningly quiet

geauxblue.bsky.social•125 days ago

Having a source of independent authority helps. But federal Dems could certainly do better.