Trump’s value add to his voting base has always been lib-owning - even if he didn’t do much for them, he hurt the people they hate but now he is directly, materially hurting a lot of them at a level far above any lib-owning he can provide - ThreadSky

rincewind.run • 4 days ago

Trump’s value add to his voting base has always been lib-owning - even if he didn’t do much for them, he hurt the people they hate

but now he is directly, materially hurting a lot of them at a level far above any lib-owning he can provide

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dankeevy.bsky.social•4 days ago

This is always the part of fascism we forget first. Fascism needs a common enemy, any common enemy, and if you are that enemy it's game over.

fortunasaga.com•4 days ago

"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting."
-Trump Trump voters in 2018

He materially hurt his base moreso than any president has in my lifetime. They still voted for him in droves because they perceive him also hurting "those" people more.

fortunasaga.com•3 days ago

Thanks autocorrect 🤦‍♀️

fortunasaga.com•4 days ago

His supporters are not people that want policy or anything that can be described as a societal benefit. They want violence. They want blood.

hoboabobo8d8.bsky.social•3 days ago

And he is materially disabling the Federal government's ability to insulate red state citizenry from the the batshit decisions of their state governments.

Shit's gonna get wild in elections.

jessilin79.bsky.social•4 days ago

I keep saying I don't feel sorry for them but that is a really good point

jube0.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yup. There were lots of other conservative choices to pick from in the 2024 primary. What made him stand out was lib owning and being a horrible person. So that was the real draw.

billycharlebois.bsky.social•4 days ago

Prospect theory coming to politics near you.

rincewind.run•4 days ago

one way or the other, we need a lot of folks to leave the cult or at least to reject it before they get sucked all the way in

way too many people in this country currently think what is happening is fine and there need to be fewer such voters

oggie.bsky.social•4 days ago

What worries me is the possibility that a nontrivial amount are treating it as zero sum, and the trans/black/female are being hurt stories make them think it's an odds game.

Yes, I know, zero logic, but emotional fantasies.

jube0.bsky.social•3 days ago

Trans people being hurt is currently his most popular stance, unfortunately.

oggie.bsky.social•3 days ago

I saw this, and it's bad, but not as bad as you might think ( to be clear, it's awful, but stick with).

The overwhelming amount of support is just for the protect women in sports EO, from people who just hear the name. Actual support from those who read it is far lower. Not great, but...

jube0.bsky.social•3 days ago

The second problem is that’s likely all they will hear about it

oggie.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah I don't mean to make it sound not like this is real bad ( it is!), just a slight temper that not all these people are monsters (possibly)

And of course is that infographic will be cited absent context to attack whatever else shortly.

pkowen.bsky.social•3 days ago

Tells ya a lot about our fellow Americans, doesn't it?

adhdgobl.in•4 days ago

The MAGA hat, QAnon, "Trump should be our literal king" crowd is probably too far gone to ever come back, but it's really important to remember that those weirdos are a minority even among very conservative Republican voters. They're not ALL immune to realizing that the rich are our common enemy.

pyrholidon.bsky.social•4 days ago

White women need to wake the fuck up and realize they’re on the chopping block.

grahamiancummins.bsky.social•3 days ago

Stove! Stove! Stove!

Touch it long and hard.

There's no other way out.

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