Trump seems to have gotten rolled by Trudeau too. Trudeau said Canada will spend $1.3B on border upgrades (…previously announced in December) plus appoint a fentanyl czar and “ensure 24/7 eyes on the border” (…ok)
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It is true Trump didn’t get much for what is for now a small concession by him. But from Canadian and Mexican vantages, they weren’t trying to “roll” anyone. They are just trying to defend their countries from unreasonable (and inarticulate) demands.
The tariffs were just him grandstanding, another episode of the apprentice. He wants everyone to believe the other countries bent the knee and he saved them from his terrible wrath🤬
The details don't matter. This is a massive PR victory for Trump and Trudeau framing it as diplomacy is inviting Trump to do this over and over again when he needs a boost.
If the China tariffs go the same way then that sets the precedent for Trump to get roiled in negotiations for the rest of his term.
Outcome is obvious: he'll threaten tariffs or other bluster and when you don't budge he'll invent a reason post hoc to back down. Only loss is to American credibility.
I can remember that in Australia in the 80s, I think Trump was denied a casino license due to Asio concerns about his links to organised crime. It makes it all a joke.
@crampell.bsky.social I’ve been a fan of your reporting for years and applaud your work here! I watch MSM and listen to reporters questions at Trump’s press briefings and I’m SO disappointed that they’re not asking strong questions or calling out the very obvious facts re these tariff negotiations!
WTF is coming through?42 lbs? he’s spending a billion? We have a domestic drug issue, not international. US citizens bring drugs from MX, and come back to the states with drugs! GOP can’t be this dum🤡he’s creating trouble with our allies and he’s violating trade agreements
This is exactly what trump planned. He didn't get rolled. This is all a show. Now he gets to thump his chest and his minions will get a collective boner.
That their countrymen are bringing into their country.
Just a shot in the dark here... maybe if they had some kinda of health care and you know a liveable wage there wouldn't be so many people needing to "find" away to you know break the law.
I maybe wrong OR not
Thanks for calling him a schmuck. He's been one for decades, going back to high school. But he HAS conned the dumbest/ most venal among us. Where he breathes.
Trump knew he was beaten by the resolve of the Canadian people. He needed something to declare victory so he could save face. This was totally predictable. Trump is a loser.
Look, there is nothing funny about this situation. That being said, the idea of Trump gloating about negotiating already-in-place concessions is absolutely delighting me right now.
On the one hand, this is the best possible outcome and humiliating Trump into having a spine seems bad since the policy is insane. On the other hand, he doesn't pay attention and pantsing him is an important part of keeping his bullshit in perspective.
Please don't say that too loudly. If Trump realizes he got rolled he might relaunch his deranged trade war in a crazed, middle-of-the-night social media post like the madman he is.
I'm not sure if it's better or worse but MAGA and low-info voters have already chalked it up to another big WIN for Trump so he's probably just going to keep doing it.
If letting Trump and his MAGA horde imagine he won is what it takes to get him to back off, I'm good with that. I'll even chip in to buy Trump a lollipop so he can celebrate his win.
Like I said my fear is that the opposite wlll happen. Emboldened by a perceived "Win" he'll keep bringing the threats up and the cycle of stupidity will continue. Or maybe he's satisfied and will move on!
The media and the public got rolled. Trump did and will claim he leveraged concessions, and dopey reporters will pass it along as fact to low-attention media consumers that will go away believing he's skilled and his style of negotiation is getting results, which is all he ultimately cares about.
I was thinking about this last night. I bet Trumps people sold on Thursday and bought back yesterday mid morning before the news was that they reached a deal. Where there is smoke there is fire
It was just about diverting attention from the ongoing coup my Musk and his minions while they broke into Federal computers, stole the data of millions of Americans and dismantled our AID program.
It should. We just committed a billion+ to strengthen our side of the border. Should stop some of the American guns being smuggled into Canada. I approve. Canada Strong 🇨🇦🇨🇦
It doesn't matter. Trump claimed the US wasn't treated fairly by Canada even though it adhered to the "best ever trade deal" HE negotiated during his first term. He's shown the world his word is worthless. There will still be fallout as the move away from trading with the US will begin.
Is the “terrorist” designation on the cartels new as well? Seemed like this got some airtime with the EO’s and unlocking additional arcane presidential powers. If it’s new, how consequential is it for a foreign country to now be reinforcing that designation?
And yet that pussy Trudeau managed to say “new” or “will” multiple time, “are” only once, and “have already been doing, you Orange fuck” not at all. Trudeau’s the one who got rolled.
"ensure 24/7 eyes on the border”.... {unsaid} "now that we confirmed our former ally to the south plans to try to annex us, and can no longer be trusted"
Trump is a dumbass. Mexico and Canada conceded to NOTHING. They were already doing this anyway. STOP THE ORANGE BULLY! What he's going to do in 30 days? Tariffs? Again? Bring it on lil pab.
This isnt a Trudeau W, Trump got him to acknowledge a non-existent border problem, deploy troops & $200 mil to stop a boogeyman. Dons coming back in 30 days for more demands. Today an imaginary enemy, next its real people. It isnt against migrants entering the US, its against Americans migrating out
I am still not buying US products. Just came from the grocery store, it's a pain to check the products labels but damn I am so pissed ... I am sure that in a month he will change the goal post.
Ok no great surprise, the tariffs aren't about fentanyl but why are we not using this as an opportunity to campaign against China for exporting 90% of the fentanyl precursor chemicals that are killing 2,500 Canadians per year + 70,000-80,000 Americans per year?
Of course people, including those in the media, noticed. It’s the game everyone plays with the Toddler-in-Chief - don’t talk about the fact that his “win” wasn’t actually a “win” so he’ll stop his most recent destructive tantrum. It’s all so exhausting and unproductive, TBH. But, 🤷♀️
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Yup Trudeau played him for the fool he is this is from December
What a deal
Outcome is obvious: he'll threaten tariffs or other bluster and when you don't budge he'll invent a reason post hoc to back down. Only loss is to American credibility.
Just a shot in the dark here... maybe if they had some kinda of health care and you know a liveable wage there wouldn't be so many people needing to "find" away to you know break the law.
I maybe wrong OR not
Trump's a schmuck.
Of course on Newsmax and at the WH press conferences, it will be ballyhoo'd as a great success, an example of Trump's "get tough" policies working. 🙄
(Canadian, here.)
CO: Turns away Military planes of people in chains.
Trump: TARIFFS!
CO: OK, WE WILL DO TARIFFS TOO!
Trump: Okay, We will not chain the people.
CO: That is all we asked.
Trump: Columbia folded!
Will work for maple syrup & poutine.
Or avocados. I'm easy.
Starting a tariff war with China could lead to even more dead people once the Chinese react with holding back chemicals.
Wait...